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Old 27th Mar 2010, 11:14
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How do you figure the crews at 5G are responsible for the airline's problems?

just curious....

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Old 28th Mar 2010, 01:25
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Thats quite the loaded statement, I hope you have all of your facts in order in regards to crew being the primary reason for Thomas Cook's/Sunquest dissatisfaction with Skyservice.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 01:45
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Someone is trolling and looking for a reaction. Don't take the bait.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 20:37
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the dirty sensor = Moron....
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you ignorant bastard. turn on your tv and check the news!
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Old 31st Mar 2010, 13:36
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Check your bank accounts......paid out. 10am announcement today. Best of luck in the future.....

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Old 31st Mar 2010, 17:22
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Sadly confirmed this morning. Best of luck to all involved.

http://=http://www.cbc.ca/money/stor...#ixzz0jm5dnPhA
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Old 31st Mar 2010, 17:47
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I'm sure all will agree your post is offensive DS. It would be gentlemanly and sensible to edit your final sentiment to those affected.

Good luck to you all. Best wishes.
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Old 31st Mar 2010, 21:25
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Well done DS.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 13:51
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Jazz Air in agreement with Thomas Cook Canada

Jazz Air LP announces flight services agreement with Thomas Cook Canada to operate Boeing 757-200 aircraft
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 13:58
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Jazz Air LP announces flight services agreement with Thomas Cook Canada to operate Boeing 757-200 aircraft

HALIFAX, April 5 /CNW/ - Today, Jazz Air LP announced that it has signed a flight services agreement with Thomas Cook Canada Inc. ("Thomas Cook") to operate no less than six Boeing 757-200 aircraft on their behalf to various sun destinations from Canadian gateways during the winter season (November through April). Subject to Jazz obtaining the required regulatory approvals and the execution of definitive leasing and maintenance agreements with Thomas Cook Airlines Ltd., the service will commence in November 2010.
If on or before May 30, 2010 Jazz and Thomas Cook are able to agree on pricing for the third, fourth and fifth winter seasons, then the agreement will be for a term ending April 30, 2015. Otherwise the agreement will have an initial term ending April 30, 2012.
This agreement is expected to generate approximately $100 million in additional annual revenues. The terms and conditions of the transaction are confidential.
"Growing and diversifying our business remains a top corporate priority; our agreement with Thomas Cook is a strong start that delivers value to all of our stakeholders," said Joseph Randell, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jazz Air LP. "We are thrilled to be partnering with one of the world's largest leisure travel groups, and it's our employees who have brought us to this important milestone. Our demonstrated ability to operate safely, reliably and with excellent customer service at competitive rates is the reason why we are able to grow and diversify our business. All our employees are to be commended for their 'can do' attitude and professionalism."
The opportunity to enter into this strategic partnership provides the potential for additional benefits for all stakeholders with minimum risk. The aircraft will be leased to Jazz Air LP from Thomas Cook Airlines Ltd. The plan is to brand the service as 'Thomas Cook' beginning in January, 2011.
"We see a great fit between Thomas Cook and Jazz," said Michael Friisdahl, President and Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Cook North America. "We're pleased to partner with an airline that prides itself on exceptional customer service and boasts amongst the strongest on-time performance in North America."
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And the question is who will do the flying? good for Jazz!
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 04:07
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Hey J.O (Jeff), talking out your pooper again? What was that you were saying about foreign ownership laws? Didn't quite get your jist son.
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Old 9th Apr 2010, 00:42
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How much ownership did Thomas Cook take in Jazz? Not a plug nickel. You were the one who said they were starting a new airline, not me. Stop being so arrogant.
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Old 10th Apr 2010, 13:39
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who?

As the financial post article indicates, it looks like jazz will hire contract pilots rather than offer the spots to its existing pilots, unfortunately. I expect it will all be former skyservice drivers.
Bad for both groups, I would expect.

update:
Well, thanks to a friend in Jazz, I got a peek at an ALPA email, and it appears it will be Jazz pilots flying the '57s and Jazz cabin crew. Curious as to how junior the most junior FO on those things will be.

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Old 12th Apr 2010, 18:54
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All of the Skyservice pilots are redundant while the Jazz pilots find themselves flying and possibly hiring to grab others work. I find it disappointing that pilots in Canada will take each others work on any "bigger" aircraft.

It is too bad Jazz could not expand or look for new opportunities rather than assist the Thomas Cook congolmerate in replacing one pilot group with another, thereby forcing 150 pilots out on the street.

The race to bottom is alive and well...
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Old 12th Apr 2010, 19:58
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And whose work did SSV take when it was created? When Sunquest wanted their own airline.
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Old 13th Apr 2010, 14:39
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SSV was a ship that had been taking on water for quite some time,
and it finally slipped below the surface. Such is the new age, deal with it !!

Jazz pilots are not the bad guys here so keep your stupid, ignorant shots
to yourselves.

Jazz is a ALPA pilot group, and no contract pilots will be needed.
We promote from within, PERIOD.

Jazz has the highest OTP of any airline in North America.
SSV couldn't push on time if their life depended on it.
Opps......I guess it looks like it did.

Any SSV pilot wishing to apply at Jazz is welcome to do so.
There is a place for you at the bottom of our list and a nice
right hand seat in one of our very nice Dash-8.

Yes thats right, the airline you once said you were too good for
is now your only hope. Isn't karma a bitch !!!!
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Old 13th Apr 2010, 16:25
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Hats off to Jazz for diversifying their products/services and moving forward....instead of backwards, something SSV has been doing since being sold to Gibralt. Its a different kettle of fish, this charter operation. Hopefully Jazz greets can meet the demands of a very sensitive operation, where every flight is crucial to both customer satisfaction and tour operator.
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Old 13th Apr 2010, 19:55
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are you guys really pilots?

I've worked for SSV several times on winter contracts (unlike our Canadian bros. we had to obtain a Canadian Licence to fly over here.) I am staggered by the animosity and rudeness shown towards each other lately. I never met an SSV pilot who boasted to be 'too good' to work for anyone. They were all decent guys with families mortgages etc....just like the rest of us really. It's sad for Canadian aviation that this has happened and I really hope those guys find something soon.

The pilots/ccrew/employees are the victims in these corporate games I'm afraid, and spewing rumour and vitriolic nonesense towards each other on this forum is pitiful to read. I can't believe that some of you guys are pilots...if you are you're a letdown. The upper echelons of Jazz couldn't give a flying toss about their pilots any more than SSV's/TCX's/TOM's do.If they can get you to pay to come to work they will....have no doubts about that!

I'm off back to the UK (if my aircraft haven't been impounded at YYZ as the rumour mill suggests). I'd love to get back to this place next winter and I hope that the pilots that I met, flew with and befriended here in Canada get decent work soon. Good luck guys, and a heartfelt thank you for the opportunity and experience.
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