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Old 10th August 2000 | 02:02
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Greetings all

Are there any freelance instructors in Canada? Are they allowed to work this way?

Anyone in the Montreal Area?

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Old 10th August 2000 | 18:14
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Smurf:

It depends what you want to do, or what you want the instructor to do. Any ab initio training such as that required for a PPL or CPL must be accomplished under the supervision of a Class 1 instructor usually but not always at a flying school. Some other types of training such as multi-engine and instrument rating instruction can be given by a suitably qualified CPL.

I cannot remember exactly what the requirements are right now but I did some freelance instructing about 10 years ago providing instrument training to PPL's who wished to upgrade their skills. I believe the qualifications at the time were CPL, IR and 250 hours PIC but I could be wrong.

Are you interested in doing some instructing yourself or are you looking for an instructor? It can get a little sticky if you do not have access to an aircraft as flying schools and clubs frown on someone instructing in their aircraft without permission, it probably even violates their insurance.

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Old 12th August 2000 | 18:46
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A Class 4 instructor (brand new instructor) must operate under the supervision of a Class 1 or 2 instructor, but a Class 3 or up may freelance. You may not freelance on your own a/c: you must be at "arm's length" from the a/c. So you can freelance on a student-owned a/c, or one the student has rented from someone else.

Some flying schools allow a class 4 instructor to effectively freelance, finding his own students and settign his own hours, under the supervision of the school's class 1.
 
Old 12th August 2000 | 19:54
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Thanks Lufty:

I stand corrected. It has been a while since I instructed at that level so i had forgotten some of the details.

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Old 13th August 2000 | 00:23
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Thanks for the replies guys!

Now do you advise getting instruction from freelance instructors? How about ground school, we need a minimum of 40 by TC, most schools give you 60 hrs, how does it work with a freelance?

Any other things you can tell me about?

Cheers
Smurfy

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Old 15th August 2000 | 06:42
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It doesn't matter who does the instruction: Transport Canada still requires 45 hours, and you may still require more hours to complete the licence.

No matter where you train, consider aircraft maintenance, aircraft and instructor availability (both day to day, and the likelihood of them being around until you finish your licence), instructor competence, instructor personality, local weather, and school or instructor reputation in the industry.

Freelance versus school, lots of factors.
At the moment you could use a question like, "do I have to do stalls and spins on my flight test?" as a litmus test for how current your instructor is. The requirements for the private licence changed recently (see http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/general...pinAware_e.htm for details) and a tuned in instructor would be up to date on this.

I get the feeling you haven't yet asked your underlying question. Are you wondering about a particular freelance instructor? Considering freelancing yourself and trying to determine the market? What were you hoping to get from a freelance instructor that you thought you wouldn't get from a school?
 
Old 16th August 2000 | 04:15
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Waffle -

thatnks for your reply.

I get the feeling you haven't yet asked your underlying question. Are you wondering about a particular freelance instructor? Considering freelancing yourself and trying to determine the market? What were you hoping to get from a freelance instructor that you thought you wouldn't get from a school?
Not really! I trying to find out a way to cut trining costs! I have yet to start flying, and someone mentioned freelance instructors, so...

Thanks again for your help all...

Cheers
Smurfy
 
Old 16th August 2000 | 18:00
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So the question is, "Will I be able to save money on training by hiring a freelance instructor?"

Maybe. Some work really cheaply. (I heard a rumour of one whose flight instruction is a money-laundering scheme -- the real money is in the pot growing operation in his hangar).

Some freelance instructors are just as good as the ones you'd find working with schools. Some are so skilled that they teach circles around the schools. Some are so bad that they couldn't keep work with a school.

Can you tell the difference by interviewing them or taking a couple of flights? It's not THAT hard to learn to fly an airplane. You could figure it out yourself if you had a device on board to keep you from killing yourself when you got it wrong, but it would take you a LOT more hours. A poor instructor is such a device. That wouldn't save you any money, and could leave you able to pass the flight test, but deficient in skills to save your life.

You can get bad instructors at schools, too. Don't make your decision on price alone.
 
Old 16th August 2000 | 21:14
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Waffle -

Thanks again for your concern, I know enough about the business to know the difference between a good and bad instructor etc...

What suprised me is that I only heard about freelancing not long ago, I though it didn't even exist/you weren't allowed to do it!

Anyways I will see how it works out...Looks like I will end up taking a loan loan to do it, but what the heck

Cheers
Smurfy
 

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