Air Canada Pilot Down-bid?

[kingoftheslipstream]

What's the latest on a possible downbid for AC pilots this fall?

Rumour confirmation?

Will there be layoffs, or will they just chop un-filled new hire positions?

k-o-t-s

[brucelee]

Hiring will continue well into next year. In fact it will intensify. We are retiring many for the next while. This will have an impact on upgrades too.

[exbengal]

good news about the upgrades, time perhaps to amend to 300 mil lawsuit, rumor has it that discovery isn't going well for acpa.

[brucelee]

bla bla bla. wha wha wha.

[exbengal]

deep thoughts idiot, hope your not paying their legal bills

[brucelee]

Not they, and especially not you idiot will ever see a penny of mine.

[exbengal]

Not they,???????????????? as I said.........deep thoughts, keep up the payments................your such a class act, the senior guys are playing you like a sucker.
cya.

[brucelee]

Ten years ago I told your clicky gang at AO that it wasn't my war. Still isn't. You guys will be fighting this one six feet under. You know, in a way I just wish this decision would come soon. I'm so sick of the boring threats. Pretty pathetic. The old guys I work with are coming up to retirement. Death comes after that. You better hurry. Time is running out.

[exbengal]

you just keep paying their legal fees, when those old farts die we'll still go after the estates, your doing a good job lee. now piss off.

[brucelee]

Not even sure that I am. It might be that mesely $30 a month that comes out of my paycheck. Maybe not. Once again proving I really don't give a **** about the whole thing. As I recall, I also gave YOU some of my money when I worked with YOU so that YOU could achieve what YOU wanted to. Hey no problem, you're welcome. Hope it helped. Oh ya, I forgot. It didn't. Good on you for going after a dead man's estate, bro. You've got class. You're also very persistant. Sort of like that dog**** you step on and the smell just doesn't seem to want to go away, even after you scrape it off.

[exbengal]

Actually lee, acpa was asked if they would indemnify the deseased estates, and guess what.................they would leave the widows and kids holding the bag.........now you want to talk about dog****, try the likes of the past acpa reps, talk about looking out for your own, just keep paying the bills lee, your a good little boy

[brucelee]

So what you're saying is you would also be willing to go after a dead man's wife and kids. Good luck on your future endevours benny.

[Jambora]

Exbengal, I have been with Jazz for a long while now and what scares me the most about that lawsuit is the stress it's causing you guys.

Even if you were to win a good amount of money if 3/4 of you guys are sick because of the stress of the last 20 years you have not won anything and the people that will loose the most is your family.

Sometime it's better to call it a defeat and wait for another chance then to make it a fight that will cost you your health.

just my 2 cents

[exbengal]

lee, your a smart little runt aren't you, you won't indemnify your own so why should we,.......... yep be glad to clean up.
Jambora, I really doubt your with Jazz, because if you were the lawsuit hardly ever gets talked about at work, especially with those not involved, so how can we be stressed, I certianally don't know of any stress leaves, the lawsuit is running on a contingency basis, if the sharks do well so do we, and as of now discovery is going good for the AO group (very thereputic) and looking forward to trial.
Binding arbitration my friend, justice may be slow in Canada, but its just.

[J.O.]

Originally Posted by exbengal

you just keep paying their legal fees, when those old farts die we'll still go after the estates, your doing a good job lee. now piss off.

I've been watching this crap from afar for many years now, but this is a new low. With that statement, you have just proved how pathetic this whole little pity party really is. As Don Henley said, "Get Over It!"

[exbengal]

get over it,yea right, we haven't gone to trial yet........if you feel so badly about us going after the estates then indemnify them, J.O.,............. oh I forgot thats acpa morality at its best

[Jambora]

Exbengal: if I tell you my profit sharing minus Jazz ensemble is close to 0, do you believe I work for Jazz now... hi! hi! hi!

Just think we have only a very very small amount of time on this planet and we should try to spend it on what's positive in our life.

Life is not fair but it's still a good ride...!!!

[exbengal]

Thanks Jambora, I find the litigation very positive, you sound like a religious type, you know............eye for an eye..........please don't hijack this with your moral beliefs, litigation is a natural process after acpa renegged on binding arbitration, thats all. I still don't see any AO types stressed out.

[J.O.]

Originally Posted by exbengal

get over it,yea right, we haven't gone to trial yet........if you feel so badly about us going after the estates then indemnify them, J.O.,............. oh I forgot thats acpa morality at its best

If you had actually read my posting, instead of viewing it with the same head-in-the-sand emotional state that you view this whole subject, you would see that I am not involved (as in "from afar..."). I am not an ACPA member, but I am an airline pilot in Canada who sees statements like yours as evidence of the lowest form of human behaviour. I heard the rants in the bar from the AO group many times back when this all started, and it sounds just as petty today as it did then.

[exbengal]

Thanks for your esteemed opinion j.o., too bad the courts don't share your views and see it as petty, renegging on binding arbitration is in this country taken seriously as witnessed in front of the Supreme Court of Canada, please try to pay ATTENTION TO THIS PART acpa was given the chance to indemnify the estates but flat out refused.
Funny, I find people that lie steal and cheat as one of the lowest form of human behaviour.
Enjoy your weekend.