Getting a job in Canada
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I was born in Canada and I still have the passport, but thats about it. I've been living and flying all my life in Europe. I've got 3000h TT with 2000h B737NG. Do I have to hand in my JAR ATPL when I convert it to a Canadian one?
And are there chances to start on a B737 with my experience?
Infos and tipps appreciated
And are there chances to start on a B737 with my experience?
Infos and tipps appreciated
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Hi Wilma,
I am not sure what Westjet's qualifications are right now, but I would say that your qualifications should be of interest to them. They are a low-cost carrier in Canada operating a fleet of Boeing 737NG's, however, your qualifications would almost certainly be of interest to Air Canada also, despite the fact that they do not operate Boeing 737's at present.
No Canadian company will be prepared to talk to you unless you have a Canadian ATP. Your JAA or any other licence is a permanent qualification-- no foreign authority can "take it away" from you. Many pilots hold licences in various countries, such as Canada, the US, possibly JAA, and others. The onus is only on you to keep your JAA licence valid, if you desired to do so.
If you do get your Canadian ATP, there is an easy administrative procedure to add your foreign Boeing 737 type rating if you have flown the 737 within the last year. Total cost-- about 5 minutes of your time and $30 Canadian dollars.
I am not sure what Westjet's qualifications are right now, but I would say that your qualifications should be of interest to them. They are a low-cost carrier in Canada operating a fleet of Boeing 737NG's, however, your qualifications would almost certainly be of interest to Air Canada also, despite the fact that they do not operate Boeing 737's at present.
No Canadian company will be prepared to talk to you unless you have a Canadian ATP. Your JAA or any other licence is a permanent qualification-- no foreign authority can "take it away" from you. Many pilots hold licences in various countries, such as Canada, the US, possibly JAA, and others. The onus is only on you to keep your JAA licence valid, if you desired to do so.
If you do get your Canadian ATP, there is an easy administrative procedure to add your foreign Boeing 737 type rating if you have flown the 737 within the last year. Total cost-- about 5 minutes of your time and $30 Canadian dollars.
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As far as filing immigration papers for Canada in the UK is concerned...forget it. Total waste of time. You'd probably get the Dear John letter. I've heard that many times.
Get the job offer, have a reputable lawyer who knows the system and where to file to sort out the paperwork you'll need when you arrive - and as long as you're in the system, the restricted work permit is issued there and then. As soon as you're here, get into the process for an IMM 1000 - Permanent Residency - and remember the rules of residency too...if you're a driver and you fly out the country, these days don't count...Whole topic in itself.
Echoing everyone - there is a shortage, and not a shortage of drivers in the Great White North. In my outfit, more applicants than empty seats- always. WS might be an interesting one as their expansion is going through the roof, and as for Jazz, understand these guys even posted their advert on workopolis....www.workopolis.com (practically unheard of in the past).
Another thing to consider - many expats, despite their lifestyle, always look through dewy eyes at home - and wouldn't surprize me if resumes are flowing in by the dozen from that quarter.
In terms of cash and rewards, it's not as much as you would think in total, but the cost of living outside the main metro areas is very very low compared to Europe. Actually, living near a downtown as I do, it is still very affordable.
AC pay, without allowances, left hand seat - top of scale c. $175,000 Cdn I believe. Someone out there able to correct me on that ?
Get the job offer, have a reputable lawyer who knows the system and where to file to sort out the paperwork you'll need when you arrive - and as long as you're in the system, the restricted work permit is issued there and then. As soon as you're here, get into the process for an IMM 1000 - Permanent Residency - and remember the rules of residency too...if you're a driver and you fly out the country, these days don't count...Whole topic in itself.
Echoing everyone - there is a shortage, and not a shortage of drivers in the Great White North. In my outfit, more applicants than empty seats- always. WS might be an interesting one as their expansion is going through the roof, and as for Jazz, understand these guys even posted their advert on workopolis....www.workopolis.com (practically unheard of in the past).
Another thing to consider - many expats, despite their lifestyle, always look through dewy eyes at home - and wouldn't surprize me if resumes are flowing in by the dozen from that quarter.
In terms of cash and rewards, it's not as much as you would think in total, but the cost of living outside the main metro areas is very very low compared to Europe. Actually, living near a downtown as I do, it is still very affordable.
AC pay, without allowances, left hand seat - top of scale c. $175,000 Cdn I believe. Someone out there able to correct me on that ?
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Friend of a friend syndrome. It's everywhere.
Same at ACJ - know of one young cub with far less experience than some prop jocks knocking down the doors who got taken on...thanks to dad, his four stripes and buddies...It's almost as bad as the casting couch. Seems to me the job ads are written in such a way to allow this to happen...and prevents any litagious thoughts...
If you know someone in WS, TS, AC, Z4, Porter....yadayadayada.... irrespective of what the formal app process is, and they walk in your resume and put in a bland word or two, the chances of getting hired just multiplied many times over. The fact your resume as at the top of the pile, helps too.
It's hard thing to admit, but it's rife.
Same at ACJ - know of one young cub with far less experience than some prop jocks knocking down the doors who got taken on...thanks to dad, his four stripes and buddies...It's almost as bad as the casting couch. Seems to me the job ads are written in such a way to allow this to happen...and prevents any litagious thoughts...
If you know someone in WS, TS, AC, Z4, Porter....yadayadayada.... irrespective of what the formal app process is, and they walk in your resume and put in a bland word or two, the chances of getting hired just multiplied many times over. The fact your resume as at the top of the pile, helps too.
It's hard thing to admit, but it's rife.
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Eurocan, please try to get right information before posting.
You need 250 hrs to pass the IATRA exam, which is VERY easy (unlike the JAA one). I studied 3 days before sitting the IATRA whereas it took me a year to complete the JAR ATPL.
The 750 hrs requirement is only for sitting the Canadian ATPL exam which is also far away easier than the JAR one.
I started as F/O on the A320 in SE Asia with a Canadian CPL, IATRA and 300 hrs TT... (and A320 type rating of course)
You need 250 hrs to pass the IATRA exam, which is VERY easy (unlike the JAA one). I studied 3 days before sitting the IATRA whereas it took me a year to complete the JAR ATPL.
The 750 hrs requirement is only for sitting the Canadian ATPL exam which is also far away easier than the JAR one.
I started as F/O on the A320 in SE Asia with a Canadian CPL, IATRA and 300 hrs TT... (and A320 type rating of course)
