ETOPS question
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ETOPS question
Can anyone tell me what Transport requires in the way of special training for ETOPS?
Perhaps someone from Westjet can enlighten me here. When you guys started the Hawaii run did all crews have to have some sort of course or was it just a few who would be doing the run?
Perhaps someone from Westjet can enlighten me here. When you guys started the Hawaii run did all crews have to have some sort of course or was it just a few who would be doing the run?
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From: 3rd Rock from the Sun
Originally Posted by Mulligan
Can anyone tell me what Transport requires in the way of special training for ETOPS?
Perhaps someone from Westjet can enlighten me here. When you guys started the Hawaii run did all crews have to have some sort of course or was it just a few who would be doing the run?
Perhaps someone from Westjet can enlighten me here. When you guys started the Hawaii run did all crews have to have some sort of course or was it just a few who would be doing the run?
In short (I'll spare you the details) ETOPS is more a Maintenance program than a Flight Operations program. There is not a great deal of Flight Operations training for ETOPS, however the maintenance side is quite extensive.
To the Naysayers in this forum, I did say that this is the "Short" explaination.
Email me and I'll send you a ETOPS guide in PDF format. [email protected]
Captain Toga Descent
Airbus Commander
CAT II/III and ETOPS qualified.
Last edited by TOGA Descent; 20th May 2006 at 11:49.
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Here's a link to the TC ETOPS Manual Chapter 3, Operational Approvals.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/co...pter3/menu.htm
Sections 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 contain the basic requirements. It's up to the operator, often in conjunction with the OEM, to develop compliant procedures and processes. There's a lot of ETOPS experience kicking around this country.
Training has a lot to do with procedural matters, and so includes Dispatchers as well as pilots.
Integration of the Maintenance Control function with Operational Control one of the things TC looks for.
Westjet originally limited the ETOPS pilot cadre to those with previous experience from other companies (eg, Canada 3000). I believe that as (if) their overseas operations expand, they'll eventually need to qualify lots more folks, and perhaps everyone. (At ZOOM, Harmony and Air Transat, all pilots would need the training. For Air Canada and Skyservice, all pilots on the applicable equipment B767, B757, A330 would be trained)
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/co...pter3/menu.htm
Sections 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 contain the basic requirements. It's up to the operator, often in conjunction with the OEM, to develop compliant procedures and processes. There's a lot of ETOPS experience kicking around this country.
Training has a lot to do with procedural matters, and so includes Dispatchers as well as pilots.
Integration of the Maintenance Control function with Operational Control one of the things TC looks for.
Westjet originally limited the ETOPS pilot cadre to those with previous experience from other companies (eg, Canada 3000). I believe that as (if) their overseas operations expand, they'll eventually need to qualify lots more folks, and perhaps everyone. (At ZOOM, Harmony and Air Transat, all pilots would need the training. For Air Canada and Skyservice, all pilots on the applicable equipment B767, B757, A330 would be trained)
