Hard Landing...
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Just what's on the "other" forum... Heard/read that Boeing engineers were brough in to investigate the airframe as there could reportedly be some "bending" involved...
Would imagine a bend airframe could = write-off. Could be wrog, maybe they can just put it on the rack and straighten it (sarcasim)...
Either way, will be interesting to hear what happened and glad everyone is safe.
Would imagine a bend airframe could = write-off. Could be wrog, maybe they can just put it on the rack and straighten it (sarcasim)...
Either way, will be interesting to hear what happened and glad everyone is safe.
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767 bounced whilst FO flying and pitched nose down to try to correct
Landed nose wheel first! Training captain was onboard.
Passengers were not too aware of the issue, just thought it was a heavy landing?
All rumours as I was not there, cannot see what was on the other thread as I cannot find it.
YYZ
Landed nose wheel first! Training captain was onboard.Passengers were not too aware of the issue, just thought it was a heavy landing?
All rumours as I was not there, cannot see what was on the other thread as I cannot find it.
YYZ
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This looks more than a little bend (of course I'm not a structural engineer and the boys from Boeing will determine what the state of the aircraft is).
I need to post the pic somewhere else, ran out of data transfer space.
Just resized and compressed. Should fit better now. Give it a bit to get my transfer limit back
I need to post the pic somewhere else, ran out of data transfer space.
Just resized and compressed. Should fit better now. Give it a bit to get my transfer limit back
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Gilligan,to say the least a very CAVALIER statement to make..
Pilots all live in 'glass houses'your only as good as your last landibg so don't start casting stones-you could be next..
Sky's reputation for converting General aviation guys/girls to the Airline industry is second to none..
Recently the airlines(hiring)have had the advantage of "qualified'people either on type or in the business,Sky' has had it's share of the these people,but prior to that they only hired from the G/A industry in the main..
Happily the future bodes well for'upgrading 'in the ranks to the airlines...After 37 years with airlines one doesn't voice accrimony too loud..
Pilots all live in 'glass houses'your only as good as your last landibg so don't start casting stones-you could be next..
Sky's reputation for converting General aviation guys/girls to the Airline industry is second to none..
Recently the airlines(hiring)have had the advantage of "qualified'people either on type or in the business,Sky' has had it's share of the these people,but prior to that they only hired from the G/A industry in the main..
Happily the future bodes well for'upgrading 'in the ranks to the airlines...After 37 years with airlines one doesn't voice accrimony too loud..
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The guy running flt ops is R. Giguerre. Ex AC flt ops manager. He's not known to fire someone so easy but then again it's a major bo bo. Who knows. We all have our bad ones but this may require a second look at who's getting hired or cast a question on their training. Very unfortunate for the company. Maybe more so for the crew.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see some jigging & reskinning here - not a simple job, and certainly dependent on the market value of the bird (CSN, TSN...)
If ABX can reskin the entire belly of a DC-9 then nothing much can surprise me.
If ABX can reskin the entire belly of a DC-9 then nothing much can surprise me.
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Nose first
A First Air 737 had a similar incident several years ago in Yellowknife and although the pictures I see of this one don't quite look as bad I suspect it will be a gonner like the 37 was. To bad as I have a friend who just finished his line check at SSV a monthe or so ago.
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There are hard landings and hard landings....The 767 is a very different beast to land than the 757. It comes as no surprise to anyone on the East side of the Atlantic that SSv have managed this so quickly.
It is not the fault of the FO that managed an 11g landing, but the training department of a sub standard cheap skate airline that should be under immediate investigation of the Canadian CAA.
It is not the fault of the FO that managed an 11g landing, but the training department of a sub standard cheap skate airline that should be under immediate investigation of the Canadian CAA.
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Those are very deliberate criticisms, I'm sure you'd like to expand on your facts. I for one would like to know how they are cheapskate etc. Didn't have that experience while I was with them.
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Bruce - isn't Rob the COO of Skyservice now ? I would think he'll be horrified at this.
Mr Growbag from the eastern shores of the Pond - would you like to detail the evidence upon which you base your assertions on the implied chronic poor airmanship at SSV? I am sure we'd all like to hear where the bias or data to which you refer comes from.
Is there anyone on here from TC TSB (Transport Canada - or Canadian CAA Mr Growbag) who can shed light on what I consider these ridiculous rumours of chronic training and flightcrew selection deficiencies at SSV?
If anyone is going throw such dirt on here - or elsewhere, they neeed to be able to support their claims...I bet Mr Growbag wouldn't march into a terminal and start murmuring such things to passengers waiting to check-in...
Mr Growbag from the eastern shores of the Pond - would you like to detail the evidence upon which you base your assertions on the implied chronic poor airmanship at SSV? I am sure we'd all like to hear where the bias or data to which you refer comes from.
Is there anyone on here from TC TSB (Transport Canada - or Canadian CAA Mr Growbag) who can shed light on what I consider these ridiculous rumours of chronic training and flightcrew selection deficiencies at SSV?
If anyone is going throw such dirt on here - or elsewhere, they neeed to be able to support their claims...I bet Mr Growbag wouldn't march into a terminal and start murmuring such things to passengers waiting to check-in...
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Inuksuk, welcome to the internet.
A place for many where they can make outlandish statements and criticisms......and never have to substanciate a single shred of supporting evidence.
From my dealings with SSV, the drivers have been nothing but 100% professional in their duties.
A place for many where they can make outlandish statements and criticisms......and never have to substanciate a single shred of supporting evidence.
From my dealings with SSV, the drivers have been nothing but 100% professional in their duties.