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I am not upset at all, i am just tired to be in the unstable part of the job.Don't get me wrong, i love my job and i am pretty dedicated to the company i work with.
I find it amazing that while we have the people and the a/c' s to operate routes from our main gateways, we still found ppl on lay off, this is it....And out of our main spots we can fullfill the a/c's.
Lay offs were part of the 9-11 and the SARS, thank you, i was in both and i heard that speech before too. But TRZ group made profit in 04, they said it was a terrific year while some of us were on lay off statut.... Thank you for the cost savings and for the WS agreement.
( IMHO if we really want cost saving, let's save on paper and introduce e-tkt and reading any memo directly on a pc instead of spending so much $ on paper/ink.
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In any case, i just told my thoughts and in no way i am angry towards all of you. I love what i do and only hope for more stability for all of us and actually say : yes i have a job longer than a summer season....
To answer your question, i also thought of an inter-agreement between both companies. i.e : WS bringing pax to our main gateway and TS operating international flts but i doubt it would happen if WS is getting ETOPS to fly overseas. I guess we will have to wait and see.
I find it amazing that while we have the people and the a/c' s to operate routes from our main gateways, we still found ppl on lay off, this is it....And out of our main spots we can fullfill the a/c's.
Lay offs were part of the 9-11 and the SARS, thank you, i was in both and i heard that speech before too. But TRZ group made profit in 04, they said it was a terrific year while some of us were on lay off statut.... Thank you for the cost savings and for the WS agreement.
( IMHO if we really want cost saving, let's save on paper and introduce e-tkt and reading any memo directly on a pc instead of spending so much $ on paper/ink.
)In any case, i just told my thoughts and in no way i am angry towards all of you. I love what i do and only hope for more stability for all of us and actually say : yes i have a job longer than a summer season....
To answer your question, i also thought of an inter-agreement between both companies. i.e : WS bringing pax to our main gateway and TS operating international flts but i doubt it would happen if WS is getting ETOPS to fly overseas. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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As I have posted before, but can't seem to find anymore so I can copy and paste....
To all of you who are worried with the fleet size at AT, all you need to do is to compare the hours flown per year vs when the L1011s were around and you will realize that with 14 planes we fly as many if not more hours than before... the difference is that instead of operating 4 different types, we now have 2 types, hence the need for fewer pilots... so to those who think that the layoffs were due to the WS agreement, think again...
Don't forget that there was a 15% increase in effective stick time since the last contract, so the increase in salary was hugely compensated by that, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if our csm was close to or even lower than WS's considering our stage lengths!
To all of you who are worried with the fleet size at AT, all you need to do is to compare the hours flown per year vs when the L1011s were around and you will realize that with 14 planes we fly as many if not more hours than before... the difference is that instead of operating 4 different types, we now have 2 types, hence the need for fewer pilots... so to those who think that the layoffs were due to the WS agreement, think again...
Don't forget that there was a 15% increase in effective stick time since the last contract, so the increase in salary was hugely compensated by that, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if our csm was close to or even lower than WS's considering our stage lengths!
