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pxcity 1st March 2009 12:11

The QANTAS Thread
 
Does anyone know if LG has been sacked recently? her name has been removed from cabin crew website>

Domestos 1st March 2009 12:35

Wow! That is juicy news.....I hope its true. I guess now that AJ is in, perhaps he is shaking out all the dead wood. I'm not getting excited just yet, until something is officially announced. Looks promising though! :D

ditzyboy 1st March 2009 20:39

Wow! That is major news... Strange nothing has been said officially.

I did hear rumour of a rift amongst the ladies of the inner circle. LG and AW?

It could also be that LG left at her own accord. Many higher level execs were none to pleased with the appointment of CEO. Perhaps she voted with her feet?

Just goes to show that, under Dixon, those in upper management seemed (to me) only interested in looking after themselves.

Bad Hat Harry 1st March 2009 22:53

New Photo?
 
Maybe she has been promoted or moved sideways and is no longer associated with Cabin Services.
Perhaps she is just having a new post botox photo taken

mrpaxing 2nd March 2009 03:49

RESULTS FOR YOUR SEARCH: 1 Results
 
Name: L G
Haul & Category: QF Longhaul Crew CSM
Email Address: [email protected]

very funny the search on qfcrew produced this result:=:*:\

GalleyHag 2nd March 2009 04:27

mr paxing

We both must be bored I just did the same search. I also note that LG has been removed from the executive team on qantas.com which she has always appeared.

QF A330 2nd March 2009 06:47

The QANTAS Thread
 
My wife's seniority global seniority was down by 30 this morning and this afternoon is down by only 16, up by 14 from morning.

Have more crew been been granted VR from March 1?

The number seems to go up and down when crew departures occur.

Regards.

QF A330

surfside6 2nd March 2009 08:10

Yo Yo
 
Mine went down by 70 this morning and back up by 40 this afternoon.Your wife must have around 28 years up

Domestos 2nd March 2009 11:59

I wonder if the 'Black Widow' will bring 'White Stockings' with her and the other handbag swingers......good riddens!!!!!

trolldolltrolldoll 2nd March 2009 22:17

me too
 
i wonder... i dropped 90 spots..

pxcity 3rd March 2009 03:08

we must save LG
 
If LG and all her cronies can form a cabin crew team, operating a LAX to AKL sector successfully then she should be saved; otherwise ground them in Auckland forever.:ok:

mrpaxing 3rd March 2009 04:09

LG still is
 
on the QF leadership team as displayed on the internal website.:yuk:

blackguard 3rd March 2009 05:07

Not Fair
 
Getting peoples hopes and then dashing them.

Shazz-zaam 4th March 2009 09:11

Forget the LAX/AKL too easy. Send them on a Mumbai trip, several back to back with minimum slip, only then will they earn my respect.

blackguard 4th March 2009 10:41

LG Departure and Global Seniority
 
Why merge two threads that have very little to do with each other.?
The Blacks Widows departure has nought to do with seniority.

cokecropduster 4th March 2009 11:29

The new Qantas Domestic people are maybe the reason for numbers going up and down. They are including them in the bidding process. (approved by the union...).

argusmoon 5th March 2009 00:20

Up and down?
 
If my seniority is 600 and 70 new people are employed,my seniority is still 600.
New hires dont affect seniority except for bidding purposes

High Class Queen 5th March 2009 05:18

Not sure if the new Qantas Domestic will impact on Qantas Airways crew seniority as there is no seniority with Qantas Domestic. Read the QANDOM workplace agreement.

cokecropduster 5th March 2009 06:18

The Qantas Domestic people SHOULDN'T affect our seniority but it would if they are putting them into the system with different numbers. It would explain why they are on trips that people are bidding for. (I am just thinking out loud... but makes sense).

Bla_Bla 5th March 2009 12:17

job security
 
does anyone know how safe our jobs are ?
just been hearing all these rumors at work...
if the worse comes i understand that it is last in first out ?
but would that mean QCCA ( cheaper labour ) or QAL ?

could anyone shed the light ?

pls note: i dont wanna start any of that stuff of QCCA & QAL ...... we r all on the same boat here ( or aircraft as matter of fact :) )

Bla_Bla 5th March 2009 12:29

just received this from the union
 
5th March 2009
Attention all Long Haul Flight Attendants

MAJOR INDUSTRIAL UPDATE

Airline Industry Update
Last week I attended a briefing with the CEO Alan Joyce regarding the general position of Qantas in terms of the Aviation Industry. The Good news is that Qantas is one of only a handful of airlines that remain profitable in the current environment.
The decisions taken around business segmentation over the last few years have placed Qantas in a stronger position to withstand the global financial maelstrom than most of our competitors.
Japan Airlines and Cathay Pacific are likely to post up to 2 billion dollar losses and British Airways have indicated losses of nearly 270 million pounds in the last quarter. These figures are in many ways incomprehensible. Yet Qantas remains competitive on the Domestic Market and the decisions made around the Long Haul Cabin Crew EBA 8 continue to position us well compared to other Cabin Crew groups.
Nonetheless we are in a constant discussion with Management to work through the challenges of softening demand for premium travel in particular, that is affecting all airlines worldwide.
In the last few days I have written a few newsletters with some levity but with underlying messages of how serious the situation is for all of us in terms of our desire to maintain job security.

747 Four Class Configured Aircraft
In the last 24 hours, system wide figures for advance bookings have been analysed and the decisions have been made to implement changes that will take cost out of the operation.
We have been in very detailed discussions with management over the last 24 hours and a decision was made by management to reduce the crew complement on the 4 class 747 by one.
Your OH&S representatives and FAAA procedures representatives have been working with the Service Development team to produce revised procedures and contingency briefings for crew and Onboard Managers.
The Service Development team following our discussions are also looking at initiatives around flexibilities in the service offering and potential changes that whilst still retaining the flavour of a premium airline, recognise the challenges of reduced crew.
There would be nobody including Cabin Crew Management more disappointed than myself about the need for this. But desperate times require appropriate measures and the overriding concern of the FAAA is the job security of our members.
Whilst this will be implemented from the beginning of the next roster, we are hopeful that when times improve we will be in a position to look a replacing the crewmember.
We do not expect this to be something achieved for quite some time, as I do not believe that we have yet seen the worst of the economic crisis.

Roster Publication Delay
As a result of an increasing surplus of crew, planned recruitment in London, Auckland and QCCA for June, has been put on hold indefinitely. Further some 50 crew, will have had LSL placed on their Lines after bids had closed. The Impact on rosters would have been devastating for those crew.
Following discussion with the FAAA arrangements have been put in place for these crew to bid around the assignment, and also re-enter their specific bids.
We thank the Company for doing this as it is a decent decision given it only affecting a small number of crew. As a result all rosters will not be published until mid next week.
Like everyone else, I like to get my roster as soon as possible, however by putting yourself in the position of the unfortunate 50 crew that have been subjected to a last minute leave burn, I hope that you will forgive us for delaying the roster build to allow them to have some roster control.
We are exploring a range of other options with the Company to increase flexibility, and build in further job security for our members. I ask for your patience and understanding as we explore and implement this and other necessary changes.
Crew can be totally reassured that your job security is our paramount concern and we are well placed given the flexibilities of the last EBA and our continuing meaningful dialogue with the Company to maintain it, as we move through very challenging times.
Written and authorised by Steven Reed – President International Division

cart_elevator 6th March 2009 08:02

Well that's very democratic of the FAAA --> delay 3000 crews' rosters so 50 senior crew can avoid going to Joberg cos of unexpected Long Service Leave being assigned. It would have been

devastating
if they could not bid the 5 day Honolulus around their leave :hmm:

I thought a union was supposed to represent the best interest of the majority? And as for 'flexibility' ---> the seniors obviously dont need to be flexible.

Oh and I see there will be no reduction in crew numbers on the A380 due to the 'economic crisis'.

The A380 flights must magically be immune to the 'crisis' as they have not reduced crew on it :mad:

Thanks FAAA --> I really feel like I am getting my money's worth :yuk:

Bla_Bla 6th March 2009 08:21

interesting points cart elevator
 
wonder what is gonna happen with that huge upper deck J class cabin on the A380

forward bookings in premium cabins are very low....
that upper deck will look like a ghost town
i guess they will have to come up with some fantastic deals and promos to attract the punters.....

priapism 6th March 2009 10:14

naaaaaa- it will be full of sub load staff!

A_B_P 6th March 2009 10:48

Considering the majority of crew on A380 cost less than 747 crew I guess there's not as much urgency to reduce.

Don't worry Cart Elevator I'm sure when they run out of ideas to cut crew costs in QAL world they'll get to QCCA.

As for "moneys worth" we all pay the same rate to the FAAA, yet some of us earn a lot less, I guess that's fair too is it? :ugh:

twiggs 6th March 2009 11:42


Originally Posted by cart_elevator (Post 4768876)
Well that's very democratic of the FAAA --> delay 3000 crews' rosters so 50 senior crew can avoid going to Joberg cos of unexpected Long Service Leave being assigned. It would have been if they could not bid the 5 day Honolulus around their leave :hmm:

I thought a union was supposed to represent the best interest of the majority? And as for 'flexibility' ---> the seniors obviously dont need to be flexible.

I hardly think a delay of 2 days is such a big deal, and certainly not without precedent. (remember the actual day rosters are to be issued is Monday, even though they usually come out earlier)

Winch-control 6th March 2009 15:02

Thanks ! Cabin Crew Rock !
 
Couldn't find a thread related to being able to express thanks to cabin crew on flights, so thought I'd start this; and I'm sure if the mods know of one it will get merged.
Flying for the first time with Qantas (domestic) yesterday I was very impressed with the level of service, attention to detail, and patience during a 2h 45min flt from Perth to Adelaide. All smiles, no grumps, a great team on board (oh I'm SLF).
Again today return journey (packed flight due to Virgin falling over) Excellent service, good humour, lots of smiles (in the face of hard work and biting of tongues I am sure!)
An excellent team on QF 599 Adelaide to Perth tonight, and I would just like to say THANKS for such an enjoyable flt, proffessional approach, and all round excellent service, and I for one appreciate that the service is not just the food and beverages, but more importantly the safety of us all.:D

flitegirl 6th March 2009 16:09

please forward your thoughts at
Help - Contact Us - Other Qantas Contacts

Bla_Bla 6th March 2009 21:31

thumbs up
 

As for "moneys worth" we all pay the same rate to the FAAA, yet some of us earn a lot less, I guess that's fair too is it?

:ok:



I hardly think a delay of 2 days is such a big deal, and certainly not without precedent. (remember the actual day rosters are to be issued is Monday, even though they usually come out earlier)

:ok:

USA77C 6th March 2009 22:26

Letter of Praise for Qantas FA
 
I recently flew on Qantas and wanted to write a letter of praise for the FAs.

Does anyone know the following:

1. Do the FAs actually receive a copy of letters of praise written on their behalf?

2. Are FAs rewarded in any way when passengers write such letters of praise?

Thanks.

twiggs 7th March 2009 01:23

Yes we do receive a copy of the letter.
It comes with a letter from our manager acknowledging the passenger's letter and thanking us.
The "reward" is that the letter is placed on our file.

DEFCON4 7th March 2009 03:11

Oh C'mon
 
1.Senior crew were the majority of the 50....where does it say that?
At 10 years you have 90 days of LSL accumulated.Most if not all senior crew have already been subject to leave burn
2.Union fees and disposable income.
According to that logic, a loaf of bread should be cheaper for those on a lesser income

A_B_P 7th March 2009 04:35

DEFCON4 I see your point re:cost of fees. I never actually said that QCCA should have cheaper fees. It would be nice though considering the basic wage of QCCA is seen in the government's eyes as low income. I'm surpirsed that any of us joined the FAAA in the first place. My point was towards the "value for money" and being "fair" issue. I guess if my wages were twice what they are I would think I was getting value for money.

I'm sick of people alluding to QCCA as not being touched by the economic issues of the company. We are only here on these conditions because of the economic downturn. We are cheaper, we work longer hours, and this makes us economically viable. :rolleyes:

surfside6 7th March 2009 04:59

It Was.......
 
Domestos,
You are 110% correct.......my post removed....by me

Domestos 7th March 2009 05:26

Come on people.....
 
....lets not wage another QAL vs. QCCA vs. QD war again. We look like fools in the eyes of the rest of the world and I don't want our threads to be locked out and moved again. Lets try and be constructive and supportive....there's enough :mad: in the world already without adding to it.

Winch-control 7th March 2009 10:44

Flitegirl
 
Many thanks flitegirl, I have left my comments with Qantas, and hopefully they will get passed on.
I was kinda hoping other slf might leave their thoughts here too for all airlines, but I guess each airline also has its own area for pax to express their gratitude, and most probably go direct there....

USA77C 7th March 2009 18:55

Thanks
 
Thank you, twiggs, for the info. It's a shame that the FAs are not rewarded with more than the letter of appreciation being added to their files. At the very least, upon receiving a copy of the letter, I hope the FA's day will be brightened by knowing that her efforts above and beyond the call of duty were greatly appreciated.

argusmoon 7th March 2009 23:44

Ridiculous
 
One thread....three themes..not clever mod(s)

Little_Red_Hat 8th March 2009 03:10

USA, if there is enough detail in the letter, and the manager receiving it feels so inclined, they can always nominate the crew member for an award under the QF employee program (Excel).

So if a crew member has done something specific that you think is worth a mention, include it in your letter. (E.g. crew member provide x assistance during a delay). Then the manager can use that letter as a nomination on your behalf. It has to be specific though, it can't just be 'I have had so-and-so on three of my flights and they have been lovely' kind of thing...

Not sure if it happens often that managers bother but I do know it has happened once or twice! :)

Hope this helps!

(I agree this thread is getting confusing!)

USA77C 8th March 2009 03:54

Thanks, Little Red Hat
 
Thank you for the excellent advice. The international FA prepared a personalized, handwritten list of things for me to see and do in Sydney during my free time on a recent business trip. I was able to complete about half of the list, and it made my trip to Sydney very enjoyable. I am looking forward to returning to Sydney and completing the list!

I will be sure to include all of that detail in my letter of appreciation for the FA. I hope her manager nominates her for the award under the Qantas employee recognition program you mentioned. Is there anything else I could do to help? As a frequent business traveler, I greatly appreciate when someone like this thoughtful FA goes above and beyond the call of duty to make a long trip especially memorable.


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