Emirates BNE base?
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Emirates BNE base?
I was told today that Emirates will open a BNE base soon.
Is this true? What flying will they do?
As BNE would be a foreign based port I can only see the crew doing Australia-Asia, maybe Dubai, but I doubt they will go anywhere else, as with Lauda.
It's certainly a great opportunity for those interested in flying. Australia hasn't been a host for many international carriers in the past, UA talked about it years ago but decided not to do it. I think it's a great thing to allow foreign airlines to base here, many other countries do, and it gives us a chance to continue with our careers. All that said, forein crews (as we would be) are at the disposal of the mother company and are therefore not secure, but at least it opens a window.
We have been limited to national carriers for too long. Any airline willing to employ locals as crew should be given the go ahead. We are one of the only countries that doesn't have this in place, except for the now defunct Lauda crew. I think it's a great thing, but any operator coming here has to deal with the FAAA, which can be tough.
I would like to see Emirates come in, as well as many others. It keeps our options open.
Is this true? What flying will they do?
As BNE would be a foreign based port I can only see the crew doing Australia-Asia, maybe Dubai, but I doubt they will go anywhere else, as with Lauda.
It's certainly a great opportunity for those interested in flying. Australia hasn't been a host for many international carriers in the past, UA talked about it years ago but decided not to do it. I think it's a great thing to allow foreign airlines to base here, many other countries do, and it gives us a chance to continue with our careers. All that said, forein crews (as we would be) are at the disposal of the mother company and are therefore not secure, but at least it opens a window.
We have been limited to national carriers for too long. Any airline willing to employ locals as crew should be given the go ahead. We are one of the only countries that doesn't have this in place, except for the now defunct Lauda crew. I think it's a great thing, but any operator coming here has to deal with the FAAA, which can be tough.
I would like to see Emirates come in, as well as many others. It keeps our options open.
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Look deeper than the surface
Emirates will never open a base in BNE.
They would have to follow Aust. union and trade practices. The minimum wage for a international flying f/a endorsed on multiple aircrafts in Aust. would be too great.
Like every airline in the world at the moment.
Singapore, Cathay, British, United, Emirates, American & Qantas etc etc are going to tell you the same thing : to quote CEO Cathay Pacific (World aviation is under greater attack then September 11th, More than 100,000 jobs will go in the next 12 months, to be quite honest current times are the worst crisis Cathay has had to face since it started, we are in a world airline rapid decline with 5 bankrupt airlines in 6 months)
Good luck, but can't see it happening at the moment
PS. Malaysian airlines future bookings down 41% CNBC Asia watch 12/04/03
They would have to follow Aust. union and trade practices. The minimum wage for a international flying f/a endorsed on multiple aircrafts in Aust. would be too great.
Like every airline in the world at the moment.
Singapore, Cathay, British, United, Emirates, American & Qantas etc etc are going to tell you the same thing : to quote CEO Cathay Pacific (World aviation is under greater attack then September 11th, More than 100,000 jobs will go in the next 12 months, to be quite honest current times are the worst crisis Cathay has had to face since it started, we are in a world airline rapid decline with 5 bankrupt airlines in 6 months)
Good luck, but can't see it happening at the moment
PS. Malaysian airlines future bookings down 41% CNBC Asia watch 12/04/03
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Missleadfoot it's not a case of airlines being allowed to base crew here, its a case of them wanting to.
Any company (including airlines) can employ Australian based employees, so long as the employment meets the Australian Industrial Relations standards/ taxation laws.
Other Airlines have based crew in Australia, and still do (mainly tech crew).
Its just the fact that the costs of setting up a cabin crew base here, managing it etc would probably put most airlines off. Take QF for example. If the minimum wage in Thailand was more than Australia, and the cost of renting offices etc was more than Australia ...... QF would not have a Thai Base. Airlines only open up bases for cabin crew in areas where it would be (overall) cheaper/ more efficient than if they hired additional crew in their home port. The costs of putting cabin crew up in a hotel here for a couple of nights + allowances isnt that much!
As Australia is pretty far away from most places, and is not a 'hub' for anywhere (no through-flying) this limits the flying that Australian based crew could do. That offset against the high cost of employing people in Australia, and the industrial relations laws here, would make it unviable for most airlines from other countries to base crew here. Airlines with foreign based cabin crew generally base them in 'Hubs' (SIN, BKK, HKG) places where a lot of that airline's flights go through regularly. That way the crew can be untilised effectively. Also airlines base crew in other countries for Language advantages (Japan etc) so that their customers from certain destinations can have someone onboard who is native in their langauage. Australian customers (generally speaking) can understand most versions of English !!
Tech crew are different. Even though there is a wide range of wages from one airline to another, the salary for tech crew is more 'standard' than cabin crew. Sometimes it is cheaper for an overseas carrier to base Australian tech crew here, as they dont have to pay them for living away from Australia, pay childrens school fees etc. I know CX did it once, AirNiugini did also. Plus tech crew can be hard for some airlines to find (qualifications etc).
Whereas the wage for cabin crew vary hugely from one country to another, and Australia has some of the highest rates of pay for cabin crew. Most airlines can easily fill cabin crew vacancies in their own countries (indeed Emirates, Gulf etc get people flocking from other countries to be cabin crew with them!), as there are no qualifications required to become cabin crew !!
My humble thoughts on the matter only
Any company (including airlines) can employ Australian based employees, so long as the employment meets the Australian Industrial Relations standards/ taxation laws.
Other Airlines have based crew in Australia, and still do (mainly tech crew).
Its just the fact that the costs of setting up a cabin crew base here, managing it etc would probably put most airlines off. Take QF for example. If the minimum wage in Thailand was more than Australia, and the cost of renting offices etc was more than Australia ...... QF would not have a Thai Base. Airlines only open up bases for cabin crew in areas where it would be (overall) cheaper/ more efficient than if they hired additional crew in their home port. The costs of putting cabin crew up in a hotel here for a couple of nights + allowances isnt that much!
As Australia is pretty far away from most places, and is not a 'hub' for anywhere (no through-flying) this limits the flying that Australian based crew could do. That offset against the high cost of employing people in Australia, and the industrial relations laws here, would make it unviable for most airlines from other countries to base crew here. Airlines with foreign based cabin crew generally base them in 'Hubs' (SIN, BKK, HKG) places where a lot of that airline's flights go through regularly. That way the crew can be untilised effectively. Also airlines base crew in other countries for Language advantages (Japan etc) so that their customers from certain destinations can have someone onboard who is native in their langauage. Australian customers (generally speaking) can understand most versions of English !!
Tech crew are different. Even though there is a wide range of wages from one airline to another, the salary for tech crew is more 'standard' than cabin crew. Sometimes it is cheaper for an overseas carrier to base Australian tech crew here, as they dont have to pay them for living away from Australia, pay childrens school fees etc. I know CX did it once, AirNiugini did also. Plus tech crew can be hard for some airlines to find (qualifications etc).
Whereas the wage for cabin crew vary hugely from one country to another, and Australia has some of the highest rates of pay for cabin crew. Most airlines can easily fill cabin crew vacancies in their own countries (indeed Emirates, Gulf etc get people flocking from other countries to be cabin crew with them!), as there are no qualifications required to become cabin crew !!
My humble thoughts on the matter only
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I think you were..... 'Miss lead'... foot, EK is not planning to open a base in Bne, but they are planning to start flying there in August via Singapore on the B777.
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I have ever asked this question to the interviewers when I had attended the interview with EK on Febuary this year. They said EK has no plan to expland the base to other city. Therefore, I think at this moment, there won't be EK based in Brisbane. He he he. EK will use Dubai as their hub but EK may expand their route to more destinations. 
