Clearing the cabin
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Clearing the cabin
I curiously wonder how the cabin clearing procedures at the O/W area are with other air carriers?
At my current airline, no hand-bagage is allowed under the seats in front of the row situated by an O/W EMC Exit. No ladies purses are allowed, no lose items whatsoever (NADA) including newspapers (if they're not put in the seatpockets) and definately no shoes off for pax seated on a EMC Exit-row + the traditional seating-restrictions for pax (children, elderly etc).
What's the general policy at your airline?
.Tom.
At my current airline, no hand-bagage is allowed under the seats in front of the row situated by an O/W EMC Exit. No ladies purses are allowed, no lose items whatsoever (NADA) including newspapers (if they're not put in the seatpockets) and definately no shoes off for pax seated on a EMC Exit-row + the traditional seating-restrictions for pax (children, elderly etc).
What's the general policy at your airline?
.Tom.
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Hi tom, the three air lines i have worked for(1-asian,2-mideast) has same policy regarding over wing exit clearence.no bags,shoes,soft articles,etc. including no children and old pax together with invalids for takeoff and landing.
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What are the rules for invalids? Can invalids sit at the em exits seats during normal cruising? But not during an emergency situation or TO / Landing? This seems strange to me. I amnot a flyer. But surely if a pax is handicapped, it would be a greater hazard to relocate him / her during an emergency situation into a non emergency exit seat? This would mean that valuable cabin prepartion time would be lost.
Please clarify.
Many thanks.
What are the rules for invalids? Can invalids sit at the em exits seats during normal cruising? But not during an emergency situation or TO / Landing? This seems strange to me. I amnot a flyer. But surely if a pax is handicapped, it would be a greater hazard to relocate him / her during an emergency situation into a non emergency exit seat? This would mean that valuable cabin prepartion time would be lost.
Please clarify.
Many thanks.
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A300 man, preferably the invalids are seated away from emer exits duringt cruise,how ever if requested they may be given seats at exits,provided invalid pax are relocated to other cabin seats for t-off and landing,which is also part of emer cabin preparation.
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Children & Emergency exits
Not long ago I flew with a Danish carrier and I was impressed when I saw a small child (probably not older than 3) seating at the overwing emergergency exit 
during T/O, cruising and landing 
during T/O, cruising and landing
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In the Large charter airline famous for rather cramped seat pitch that I have worked for the following rule applies for ALL exit rows and therefore most extra legroom seats - which is why tend to get all our seating issues See below**
No Children
No Obese passengers
No Disabled Pax
No Persons of Reduced Mobility - i.e. invalid/injured
No Infants
No Elderly
Plus at the O/W no lose items at floor level in the exit row and the rows immediatly in front and aft of the row. I personally add the "no shoes - off" to all pax at these locations and in fact I 'suggest' it to all the pax in my cabin secure zones However I must point out that is is not part of the officially taught Cabin Secure/ O/W exit secure procedures. What they call a "nice to know"
** due to the config. of our aircraft any larger persons who want extra legroom or generally more sace are able to purchase a seat with the extra space. These are usually located at an exit row - and though I'm not certain - our sales departments do not ask the persons measurments. So when a clearly obese passenger sits down is his/her 'paid for' seat we (the crew) have to discreetly move the pax to another seat for T/o and LNDG. this task might seem straight forward but most of our aircraft are FULL (being a charter carrier) and it is both embarrsing for the Pax and disconcerting for the other PAX.
I beleive all such pax who request those seats should fit within certain Wiast, Torso measurment restrictions like they do on rollercoastsers.
a long moan I know......... but on one flight we had to LEAVE a passenger behind because he wouldn't fit in the seats allocated. I must have moved such pax several times in only a few months and is so frustrating to both PAX and Crew and such situations can seriously jeapordise the safety of aircraft.
No Children
No Obese passengers
No Disabled Pax
No Persons of Reduced Mobility - i.e. invalid/injured
No Infants
No Elderly
Plus at the O/W no lose items at floor level in the exit row and the rows immediatly in front and aft of the row. I personally add the "no shoes - off" to all pax at these locations and in fact I 'suggest' it to all the pax in my cabin secure zones However I must point out that is is not part of the officially taught Cabin Secure/ O/W exit secure procedures. What they call a "nice to know"
** due to the config. of our aircraft any larger persons who want extra legroom or generally more sace are able to purchase a seat with the extra space. These are usually located at an exit row - and though I'm not certain - our sales departments do not ask the persons measurments. So when a clearly obese passenger sits down is his/her 'paid for' seat we (the crew) have to discreetly move the pax to another seat for T/o and LNDG. this task might seem straight forward but most of our aircraft are FULL (being a charter carrier) and it is both embarrsing for the Pax and disconcerting for the other PAX.
I beleive all such pax who request those seats should fit within certain Wiast, Torso measurment restrictions like they do on rollercoastsers.
a long moan I know......... but on one flight we had to LEAVE a passenger behind because he wouldn't fit in the seats allocated. I must have moved such pax several times in only a few months and is so frustrating to both PAX and Crew and such situations can seriously jeapordise the safety of aircraft.
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Hi all,
Generally the same rules apply to my airline...
*No children
*No disabled/infirm/elderly
*No obese pax....etc
Also pax must speak and understand English.
This can be quite difficult on a full flight, especially to/from places such as Japan, Korea, China where the load can be up to 100% tour groups from those countries and you have no idea who does speak english. This is where some assistance from check in staff would be appreciated as they have more direct contact initially and are obviously talking to the pax and allocating seats. I am amazed at times when there are english speaking pax on board and they have not been seated at the emergency exit.
We also have to brief the pax and confirm with them if they are willing to follow our instructions in an emergency.
There is usually a bit of juggling to be done pre take off but those who do have to be moved to an exit row are usually very happy to do so due to the extra leg room.
Also,
*No baggage under seats during take off and landing.
I haven't heard of the shoes rule but I do agree with it.
Generally the same rules apply to my airline...
*No children
*No disabled/infirm/elderly
*No obese pax....etc
Also pax must speak and understand English.
This can be quite difficult on a full flight, especially to/from places such as Japan, Korea, China where the load can be up to 100% tour groups from those countries and you have no idea who does speak english. This is where some assistance from check in staff would be appreciated as they have more direct contact initially and are obviously talking to the pax and allocating seats. I am amazed at times when there are english speaking pax on board and they have not been seated at the emergency exit.
We also have to brief the pax and confirm with them if they are willing to follow our instructions in an emergency.
There is usually a bit of juggling to be done pre take off but those who do have to be moved to an exit row are usually very happy to do so due to the extra leg room.
Also,
*No baggage under seats during take off and landing.
I haven't heard of the shoes rule but I do agree with it.
