Virgin Blue crying hard done by again
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Just to make one thing clear here, the only people at war between DJ and QF are the marketing departments and as such should be left as so. It's quite funny watching DJ bag QF - as we all know QF will never respond. It will continue to happen so get used to it !
The bickering on this forum between staff must stop as it will solve nothing and only ruin the spirit of this forum. As a QF employee I have many DJ friends and only last week attended a DJ f/a party where I got along famously with the other DJ f/a staff. They respected my airline and I respected theirs - no big deal - at the end of the day we work to live, not live to work - it's just a job !
Do we see this bickering amongst the staff of telstra and optus ? Myer and David Jones ? Woolworths and Coles ? NO !
The bickering on this forum between staff must stop as it will solve nothing and only ruin the spirit of this forum. As a QF employee I have many DJ friends and only last week attended a DJ f/a party where I got along famously with the other DJ f/a staff. They respected my airline and I respected theirs - no big deal - at the end of the day we work to live, not live to work - it's just a job !
Do we see this bickering amongst the staff of telstra and optus ? Myer and David Jones ? Woolworths and Coles ? NO !
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Frankly, I find this whole debate quite yawnable. However, I shall add in my 2 cents worth anyway!
DJ has this whole hip, young, fresh and "keeping the air fair" thing going on. That's all good and well, imho. If peeps want to get a cheap ticket then the perception is to go with VB. Sometimes QF is cheaper, sometimes it's not. The public are very fickle creatures.
QF is going the whole corporate professional image in order to capture the business high-yield end of the market. Hence the reason they still have a meal service and cater to those pax travelling in J/C. They also have the added benefit of "seamless connections" (may I add, I use that term loosely, as pax connecting on an international flight when they arrive in T2 do not exactly get the pleasure of the whole seamless experience).
My question here is what exactly is the problem here? So what if VB F/A's apply to QF? Why does anyone really give a hoot?
Yes, I tire of the Branson whining about everything costing too much - but his whole aim is to "keep the air fair" and keep prices down (of course, the amount of profit he will make has absolutely nothing to do with it!!). This tactic seems to be working well for him so far - and as the saying goes - when you're on a good thing, stick to it.
May I also add that I take offence to the comment made in an early post that AirNZ were the sole reason that AN went down. I detest AirNZ as much as the next guy, but there were plenty of other peeps who had their hand in the till well before AirNZ got there. I find it personally ironic that I worked for the airline that got dumped by them, and am now working for the airline that is going to save them.
A small win is sometimes very satisfying.
Enough of my rambles. Merry Christmas all.
SG
DJ has this whole hip, young, fresh and "keeping the air fair" thing going on. That's all good and well, imho. If peeps want to get a cheap ticket then the perception is to go with VB. Sometimes QF is cheaper, sometimes it's not. The public are very fickle creatures.
QF is going the whole corporate professional image in order to capture the business high-yield end of the market. Hence the reason they still have a meal service and cater to those pax travelling in J/C. They also have the added benefit of "seamless connections" (may I add, I use that term loosely, as pax connecting on an international flight when they arrive in T2 do not exactly get the pleasure of the whole seamless experience).
My question here is what exactly is the problem here? So what if VB F/A's apply to QF? Why does anyone really give a hoot?
Yes, I tire of the Branson whining about everything costing too much - but his whole aim is to "keep the air fair" and keep prices down (of course, the amount of profit he will make has absolutely nothing to do with it!!). This tactic seems to be working well for him so far - and as the saying goes - when you're on a good thing, stick to it.
May I also add that I take offence to the comment made in an early post that AirNZ were the sole reason that AN went down. I detest AirNZ as much as the next guy, but there were plenty of other peeps who had their hand in the till well before AirNZ got there. I find it personally ironic that I worked for the airline that got dumped by them, and am now working for the airline that is going to save them.
A small win is sometimes very satisfying.
Enough of my rambles. Merry Christmas all.
SG
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So what's the problem with Virgin Blue cabin crew applying to Qantas for jobs? I don't think it's an indication of DJ staff being disatisfied but simply a reflection of the fact that people work for DJ because jobs are available. I can't imagine there would be too many cabin crew, or pilots for that matter, who, if they really had a choice, would chose DJ over QF? Why would they?
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Just read this whole thread and it is fairly obvious that we are all very loyal and wholeheartily defend our employers.
I agree that sometimes Branson's media stunts can wear a little thin, but he's a media tart (sorry should reword that), he's a billionaire media tart who uses the media to his advantage. He is always accessable to the media and answers all questions asked of him,no matter how stupid they are.I've been at a media conference with him present and the man is gifted at playing the media. He has made the media a friend, not an enemy(who would want the media as an enemy in this country,our tall poppy syndrome would tear you apart).
As somebody said earlier,if it's not broke don't fix it,it works for him and must keep the old advertising budget down. Remember VB is a low cost,yes low cost airline not discount,it tries to keep it's costs down and then pass these onto the public.Not raise costs, then slug the punter with higher fares.
At this point VB has 25% of the market(gunning for more) and has just been named with the 3rd most respected CEO behind Sony and Harvey Norman in regard to consumer confidence(or something along those lines),they are expanding rapidly and becoming more respected all the time.
People who work for VB are normally new to the airline industry and when an advertisement comes up for Qantas they see dollars in their eyes and all rush off and apply. I would no doubt say that this happened at Ansett as well before Virgin. Good luck to them, but with the industry world wide the way it is, eventually Qantas will have to lower their costs to stay viable. It's already started -: starting up Australian, trying to buy Air NZ,freezing wages and so forth.
Let's look at the big picture guys.
WE"VE ALL GOT A GREAT LIFE FLYING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND WE'VE BOTH GOT STRONG STABLE COMPANIES THAT ARE'NT GOING BROKE OR FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY.
Be happy & stop slagging off at each other.
Sorry about the rambling. Just finished a 4 day trip and have had a couple of night caps.
I agree that sometimes Branson's media stunts can wear a little thin, but he's a media tart (sorry should reword that), he's a billionaire media tart who uses the media to his advantage. He is always accessable to the media and answers all questions asked of him,no matter how stupid they are.I've been at a media conference with him present and the man is gifted at playing the media. He has made the media a friend, not an enemy(who would want the media as an enemy in this country,our tall poppy syndrome would tear you apart).
As somebody said earlier,if it's not broke don't fix it,it works for him and must keep the old advertising budget down. Remember VB is a low cost,yes low cost airline not discount,it tries to keep it's costs down and then pass these onto the public.Not raise costs, then slug the punter with higher fares.
At this point VB has 25% of the market(gunning for more) and has just been named with the 3rd most respected CEO behind Sony and Harvey Norman in regard to consumer confidence(or something along those lines),they are expanding rapidly and becoming more respected all the time.
People who work for VB are normally new to the airline industry and when an advertisement comes up for Qantas they see dollars in their eyes and all rush off and apply. I would no doubt say that this happened at Ansett as well before Virgin. Good luck to them, but with the industry world wide the way it is, eventually Qantas will have to lower their costs to stay viable. It's already started -: starting up Australian, trying to buy Air NZ,freezing wages and so forth.
Let's look at the big picture guys.
WE"VE ALL GOT A GREAT LIFE FLYING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND WE'VE BOTH GOT STRONG STABLE COMPANIES THAT ARE'NT GOING BROKE OR FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY.
Be happy & stop slagging off at each other.
Sorry about the rambling. Just finished a 4 day trip and have had a couple of night caps.
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Keeping the Air Fair
I have a question for the great VB Marketing team.
Why can you never get the cheapest published airfare on VB.
Seems when ever you compare prices with Qantas, Qantas is always cheaper.
Seems like bait advertising to me!
Why can you never get the cheapest published airfare on VB.
Seems when ever you compare prices with Qantas, Qantas is always cheaper.
Seems like bait advertising to me!
