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Old 6th May 2015, 02:25   #1 (permalink)


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can a short haul flight attendant take anti anxiety meds

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Is it ok for a short haul f/a to be on effexor for mild anxiety?
Does it need to be disclosed at medical time?
Does anyone know how long it stays in urine if it was to be stopped before a medical.
Dont want to be sneaky but its personal and I dont really want it to be known to one and all. Thanks.
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Old 9th May 2015, 05:39   #2 (permalink)
 
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Try finding the cause of your anxiety and deal with it before taking any drugs. Prevention is better than the cure (or in this case band-aid).
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Old 9th May 2015, 09:09   #3 (permalink)
 
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can a short haul flight attendant take anti anxiety meds


you can ' take ' anything you like
whether it safe or wise to do so is another question

you might be well advised to find a doctor or a chemist
whose confidentiality you can trust

have a read of MIMS before you do anything
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Would I want to fly on an aircraft with you in a position that needs to be switched on in an emergency no way, get a new job.
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Old 11th May 2015, 09:02   #5 (permalink)
 
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you need to speak to your Dr.
If you are on prescribed medication, it would be unwise, surely, to stop taking them before a Medical.
You also need to be more adult about this and treat your illness responsibly.
Talk to your manager, this should be treated confidentially.

Some of the comments already posted in response to this show why dripdripdrip resorts to an anonymous forum... Ignorance and ill-informed comments which only serve to increase the stigma surrounding mental illnesses.
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Find and fix the problem. Medication had its uses but I'm sure you will be happier without them. I'm not trying to be funny, but you are even anxious about taking the pills. Your GP and/or union should be your first points of contact for help. See what they can do for you.

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Old 27th May 2015, 21:53   #7 (permalink)
 
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A quick scan through my company OM says categorically NO. If they are prescribed then the company will arrange whatever help you need via medical insurance, if you are self prescribing then you should report sick.

I would be very worried to find out that a key member of safety personnel was using such medication and responsible for the cabin behind me.

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Old 8th Apr 2017, 08:43   #8 (permalink)
 
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You would be surprised at just how many cabin crew around the world are on some type of medication for depression and/or anxiety.
I'm surprised at the very naive comments in this thread. Someone with anxiety/depression can deal with emergency situations. I'd be more worried about the crew with poor EP knowledge than someone that suffers from anxiety.

Anyway, to answer the thread starters question's.

Each airline has it's own policy on medication. Some allow SSRIs etc but must be disclosed in case of drug testing. You will be drug tested at the medical stage, and may raise questions by the doctor if you haven't declared anxiety as a pre-existing condition.
You asked about how long the drug may be present in your urine after you stop taking it. I'm assuming you are already aware that you shouldn't suddenly stop medication like effexor as the side effects will be significant. But, all traces should be gone within 3 days.

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I have no medical qualifications whatsoever, therefore you can treat the following with as much disdain as you like. Or you can take it seriously.

If you are taking benzodiazepine drugs (diazepam alias "Valium," nitrazepam, temazepam etc.) then be warned that, in order to maintain a similar level of effectiveness, you need to increase the dose over time.

It is also well known that it is very easy to become dependent on these drugs and stopping them can be very, very hard.

So IF you are taking one of them (and you don't say that you are, so the above may be useless and irrelevant) you really do need to speak to a qualified medical professional about it.
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 17:47   #10 (permalink)
 
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Would I want to fly on an aircraft with you in a position that needs to be switched on in an emergency no way, get a new job.
I'd far rather fly with my cabin crew medicated abd receiving the correct treatment rather than a cabin crew hiding their mental issues for fear of losing their job and the same goes for the person sitting next to me.
It is comments like yours which makes people want to hide and not admit that they need help and I find it so frustrating when I see close minded comments like this. Having had close friends and family suffer from depression/anxiety and at one point seeking help myself this kind of attitude is not conducive to a healthy and honest work place environment. We work in an industry that has so many pressures and stresses around working patterns/job security etc any perfectly healthy sound of mind individual could be expected to become maybe a bit depressed/anxious at some point over their career.
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Old 17th Apr 2017, 16:44   #11 (permalink)
 
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Really!

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Would I want to fly on an aircraft with you in a position that needs to be switched on in an emergency no way, get a new job.
Who are you to judge!
You don't know what's gone on in this crew members life!

Also if you are Crew, perhaps you should get another job with an attitude like that!

Drip Drip good on you for asking the Question!
I personally wish you a speedy recovery xxx
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Since the German wings aircraft was flown into the side of a mountain by a guy with mental Heath issues the industry has over reacted to those who have minor issues, I went to my Doctor following fatigue issues and got asked if I has considered self harming ! ............... all I wanted was the chance of a month or two of undisturbed sleep to recover from years of poor rostering.

A cabin crew member friend who lost her job and had family problems was for a very short time on anti depressants, having months back stopped taking the pills has had trouble getting back into flying because of this short time on the pills.

These are two examples of how the industry view on mental health issues has hardened recently and in my opinion swung to far in the direction zero tolerance to those on medication to the point were it is likely that people will hide issues they have. This was exactly what the German wings pilot did and I see this as exactly what will happen again if we let the lawyers rather than the doctors dictate the aircrew health agenda.
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This was exactly what the German wings pilot did and I see this as exactly what will happen again if we let the lawyers rather than the doctors dictate the aircrew health agenda.
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Yep, "hard cases make bad law".
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I don't see mild anxiety as a mental illness.
But again the source of your anxiety is more important then a chemical coverup.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 11:07   #15 (permalink)
 
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https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Ex...ng-medication/

have a look at this UK CAA webpage , youll see that certain medications are permitted, if yours is not permitted, there may be something similar that is approved. best to contact an AME, aviation medical examiner.
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Who are you to judge!
You don't know what's gone on in this crew members life!

Also if you are Crew, perhaps you should get another job with an attitude like that!
This, this, this.

I suffer anxiety and have been crew for the better part of a decade. I've always been transparent with my employers and I would never think about continuing in the profession if I knew it would have a profound effect on myself or those around me. IMO, it isn't the problem but the way that someone deals with it. In my case, I feel that my work is the ideal escape, where I can surround myself with awesome people that boost my self confidence. I personally would avoid meds, but wouldn't judge those that may feel they are at the point that they need to - provided they are deemed fit to fly. Having something "going on up there" does not automatically mean someone is a danger...
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Old 18th May 2017, 02:21   #17 (permalink)


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Hi Everyone,
Is it ok for a short haul f/a to be on effexor for mild anxiety?
Need to refer to the airline in question. They usually have a medical team that decides such things. As cabin crew you will be subject to random drug tests by CASA, not just the entry medical dug test. If any undeclared substance shows up on a random CASA test you will likely be stood down and asked to explain.

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Does it need to be disclosed at medical time?
Refer to the application for your airline. If their medical form states that any undeclared existing conditions are grounds for termination then yes, you'll need to declare it.

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Does anyone know how long it stays in urine if it was to be stopped before a medical.
No, ask your Dr. Keep in mind that most anxiety medications cannot be stopped willy nilly because of serious side effects. They must be properly tapered off over many months.

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Dont want to be sneaky but its personal and I dont really want it to be known to one and all. Thanks.
I completely understand, most people have no understanding of what it is, how it affects you and will likely exercise their mental illness phobia in dealing with you. However if you willfully deceive the airline now and get found out you will likely lose your job as a result of non-disclosure. You may be in a better position to wait until your anxiety is managed without medication and then apply for the job so you can truthfully declare you do not have it. How far off is this? Do you have a treatment plan that involves you being medication free? If not, then it's best to start one. Medication is not treatment, it's symptom management you still need CBT or some similar therapy in order to live your life without medication at some point.

It's different if you develop anxiety on the job, they cannot legally fire you for having anxiety but must work with you and your Dr on appropriate duties and a treatment plan to return to full duties. Or they need to approve your medication for use while flying so you can retain full duties.

I'll be honest with you, it's very hard to get any job (no matter what it is) if you are declaring you have anxiety. People have this idea that anxiety makes you useless and you can't handle life. The truth is 25% of everyone out there has it or depression so most people are happily working alongside anxious & depressed people everyday with no knowledge of this. But once it's known expect the full barrage of discriminatory treatment from clueless individuals.

For this reason, there are many people with the condition who prefer to self-medicate with food or alcohol, leading to a whole lot worse problems down the line. The way society reacts to people with these conditions forces them underground and to not seek treatment, they eventually end up in much worse states. Until society gets over their mental illness phobia this will continue.

Think carefully, if you can get off your medication within say 6 months and have a treatment plan for the behavioural side of things it will be better going into a job app without it. Once you are on their database with the words anxiety written all over it, you will never be able to successfully apply again.
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'I just don't believe it' as Victor Meldreth would say! What amazing ignorance displayed in replies to this post. How come the title 'Mental Illness ' is used to describe a whole spectrum of ailments. It's like putting STDS, Typhoid, The Plague, Measles, Flue and the Common Cold into the same category.
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'I just don't believe it' as Victor Meldreth would say! What amazing ignorance displayed in replies to this post. How come the title 'Mental Illness ' is used to describe a whole spectrum of ailments. It's like putting STDS, Typhoid, The Plague, Measles, Flue and the Common Cold into the same category.
Why not? Mental illnesses are illnesses of the mind. What you have described are physical illnesses or illnesses of the body.
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