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Old 2nd November 2010 | 08:57
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Hope you haven't been upset by any of our responses
Absolutely not.

Everbody did what I asked; they gave their views.
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Old 2nd November 2010 | 11:57
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Originally Posted by wings folded
I am strictly speaking disabled. Can park where I like in other words, 'cos I have the Blue Badge thingy.
Some of us may wonder, if you are as nimble on your feet when around an emergency exit as is described later, why you don't park in the normal slots and leave these parking spaces for those more severely disabled.

As a frequent flyer who in fact listens to the safety speech every time, although I could recite it in my sleep
Ah yes, this one. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a single safety briefing which is standardised; each carrier, and indeed each aircraft type within a carrier, has it's own unique text. I would have hoped that you might have noticed this. My normal response to those who make similar comments when seated alongside me is to ask, at the end, on which side the life vest tapes were tied, left, right or centre. I've never had a confident and correct answer yet.

I know how to open the, shall we say, over wing door, because I read the notice.
Do you also know how much that overwing exit door actually weighs, and the right way to sling it ? I have to tell you that if, as you say, you "limp rather badly", this will be a considerable impediment. Then you will be promptly out over the wing and down the slide, where being first out you will then need to be first on your feet (what was that about "limping rather badly ?") to hold the slide end and organise those coming down behind to get up and away pronto, pulling those who don't move out of the way.

I frequently see obese / inattentive / clearly tired Pax sitting in those rows.
Hacks many others off as well.

I would be out of the way quicker than if I had to plod my way down the aisle, holding up able bodied passengers who also would like to get out as soon as poss.
I would hope that as you recogise you would delay numbers of AB pax and reduce the exit rate, you would permit them to pass by to exit ASAP, with yourself following more slowly at the end. This is a responsibility to your fellow passengers.

Don't forget the aircraft commander will be the last out, behind you.

Hope this doesn't come over as too hectoring. You are better than the majority, who just pay no attention at all.
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Old 2nd November 2010 | 12:36
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Just when I had thanked everybody for their views, and said that nobody had upset me, along comes WHBM to spoil everything

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Originally Posted by wings folded
I am strictly speaking disabled. Can park where I like in other words, 'cos I have the Blue Badge thingy.

Some of us may wonder, if you are as nimble on your feet when around an emergency exit as is described later, why you don't park in the normal slots and leave these parking spaces for those more severely disabled.

I would be sitting next to damn thing, not on my feet. And you have no idea how thoughtful I am towards those with worse handicaps.


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As a frequent flyer who in fact listens to the safety speech every time, although I could recite it in my sleep
Ah yes, this one. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a single safety briefing which is standardised; each carrier, and indeed each aircraft type within a carrier, has it's own unique text. I would have hoped that you might have noticed this. My normal response to those who make similar comments when seated alongside me is to ask, at the end, on which side the life vest tapes were tied, left, right or centre. I've never had a confident and correct answer yet.

I have travelled most recently a fairly high number of trips on just the one carrier, blue and yellow, out of Stansted, with one type of craft, and, yes I do know that on certain versions the life vest is under the seat and on others it is overhead. If you sit next to me one day and we are still speaking, I will tell you which it is.


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I know how to open the, shall we say, over wing door, because I read the notice.
Do you also know how much that overwing exit door actually weighs, and the right way to sling it ? I have to tell you that if, as you say, you "limp rather badly", this will be a considerable impediment. Then you will be promptly out over the wing and down the slide, where being first out you will then need to be first on your feet (what was that about "limping rather badly ?") to hold the slide end and organise those coming down behind to get up and away pronto, pulling those who don't move out of the way.

I have never done it for real. But you know little about disabilities. Frequently people with an undercarriage disability develop superior upper body strength. They have to. It helps to compensate

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I would be out of the way quicker than if I had to plod my way down the aisle, holding up able bodied passengers who also would like to get out as soon as poss.
I would hope that as you recogise you would delay numbers of AB pax and reduce the exit rate, you would permit them to pass by to exit ASAP, with yourself following more slowly at the end. This is a responsibility to your fellow passengers.

I probably actually would, but is my life worth less than others'?

It has fortunately never been tested in my case.

But, Oh, never mind, I am not so full of my own self importance that I would block the exit to able bodied adults, children, families

Don't forget the aircraft commander will be the last out, behind you.

Agreed, but I suppose he wants to be out as soon as poss as well.

Hope this doesn't come over as too hectoring. You are better than the majority, who just pay no attention at all.

Hectoring.... No, it comes over as the writings of somebody who has not read the thread properly, and knows little about disability.
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