Overhead Baggage anyone
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Even though I'm a SLF myself, I couldn't help sharing this very useful video I just found on Yahoo!com with all of you
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Am sure all of you have suffered this before..
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Am sure all of you have suffered this before..
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My airline has increased it's carry on size allowance to meet other European airlines standards. It's a nightmare. Passengers now EXPECT you to find somewhere for their bag, it makes me laugh how they just leave them in the aisle unattended.
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Blame the airline for trying to make a buck and not the Pax trying to save a buck.
If every Pax getting onto most types in service today took one, and only one max size allowable piece of hand luggage into the cabin where are we supposed to put them
If every Pax getting onto most types in service today took one, and only one max size allowable piece of hand luggage into the cabin where are we supposed to put them
I don't see how my airline is making a buck from allowing passengers to bring on a large bag into the cabin without a weight restriction free of charge!. It's greed from the passengers. So used to paying $10 for a one way ticket they don't want to pay another $10 to put their bag in the hold.
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
I don't see how my airline is making a buck from allowing passengers to bring on a large bag into the cabin without a weight restriction free of charge!. It's greed from the passengers. So used to paying $10 for a one way ticket they don't want to pay another $10 to put their bag in the hold.
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
If this means that the cabin crew are going to be inconvenienced by this, then tough. We've bought your product on your terms. That's not greed - it's market forces and the PAX's response to them. Live with it.
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I don't see how my airline is making a buck from allowing passengers to bring on a large bag into the cabin without a weight restriction free of charge!. It's greed from the passengers. So used to paying $10 for a one way ticket they don't want to pay another $10 to put their bag in the hold.
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
And then they get pi**ed at us for not having enough room to stow the baggage in the cabin!
We just flew with Virgin from Gatwick to Montego Bay. Our baggage entitlement is one piece of hold luggage each (max 23 Kgs) and one piece of hand baggage each. We check in one standard suitcase each and get on board with a small back pack/ handbag each, no problems.
When we fly with Ryan Air/Easy Jet etc there is no hold baggage allowance hence we purchase a max size carry on case. If everyone does the same just where are we all going to put these cases as the overhead bins will not take them all.
If the airline allowed us a piece of hold luggage as part of the ticket cost that is the option we would take and your problems would disappear, so blame your airline for trying to make a buck as opposed to us pax trying to save a buck
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It is also particularly helpful when airlines use the overheads to stow crew equipment, like the safety demo kit and other things [unidentified].
As the airlines play the 'baggage game' to the hilt, they need also to consider finding somewhere on the ac for the crew stuff - ideally not in areas that the SLF are paying to use.
As the airlines play the 'baggage game' to the hilt, they need also to consider finding somewhere on the ac for the crew stuff - ideally not in areas that the SLF are paying to use.
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Sure we can make room in the overhead lockers. All that "crew stuff" is sooo unnecessary. Lets see which of these items would you like us to throw off the aircraft?
First aid supplies
Spare life jackets
Resus equipment
Emergency oxygen
Fire Extinguishers
Life rafts
Infant seat belts
Sick bags
Cleaning supplies
Bin liners
Paper towels and toilet paper
First aid supplies
Spare life jackets
Resus equipment
Emergency oxygen
Fire Extinguishers
Life rafts
Infant seat belts
Sick bags
Cleaning supplies
Bin liners
Paper towels and toilet paper
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It is also particularly helpful when airlines use the overheads to stow crew equipment, like the safety demo kit and other things [unidentified].
Much of the safety equipment mentioned by AirborneSoon was not available, or mandated at the time of open hatracks - hence they were not stowed anywhere.
As the airlines play the 'baggage game' to the hilt, they need also to consider finding somewhere on the ac for the crew stuff - ideally not in areas that the SLF are paying to use.
The issue of overhead compartment space is not one that will be materially affected by the removal of supplies and equipment from these areas: This isn't a solution, it's just sniping.
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The issue of overhead compartment space is not one that will be materially affected by the removal of supplies and equipment from these areas: This isn't a solution, it's just sniping.
However, one thing that has surprised me recently is observing, when boarding one aircraft type, a fire extinguisher and a portable emergency oxygen container adjacent to each other and very similar in size in the doorway. It is unlikely that anyone would pick up the fire extinguisher instead of the oxygen, but I'm not so sure that the reverse could not happen in the presence of smoke. Do the authorities really approve this adjacency?
Wonder how Ryan Air etc would cope if a full complement of pax on one of their 737's got on with a carry on suitcase each, would be absolute bedlam
This does not stop the pax who have their baggage removed from complaining though. The common theme is "I was on before him so I want my bag with me" or " there is stuff in there I need during the flight".
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And then there is the furniture as well as the grand piano!!!!
Yes it happens. On my LGW-BFS several mounths ago I was securing my area and found a large box by the pax feet. It fitted in the bin (just) but he told me it was "too fragile to go up there". I asked what was in the box..... it was a bathroom cabinet 
As a Pu on LowCo I think Girtbar has it in one and I shouldn't say this as my company would not agree on principle. The amount of stuff that pax cram into a non weight restricted cabin bag is unsafe. They want to avoid the hold charges and why wouldn't they. Most if not all of what they have in there is not essential for that flight however.
And the bag crates seem to be so much bigger downroute for the same dimentions.....any other crew find this
I cannot speak for what happens on FR if all pax turn up with a correctly sized cabin bag (unlikely) but I can say what happens at my lot.
On a flight from a certain italian airport on a 319 (156 pax capacity) 102 pax turned up with the contents of their houses crammed into their hand luggage which seemed to have cleared all ground channels. Because i have time pressures to board we don't argue on the steps but allow the SLF to sort it in the cabin.
When they can't the CC tag the bags and offload them to the hold after asking the pax to remove "essentials" that is medication, travel docs, nappies....
The poor dispatcher then has to drag all this down the steps to the hold so EZY avoid handling charges for that bag.......
Loco do exploit the luggage issue in the name of revenue......I don't deny this and I'm not saying this is right.
And to the "sniping" SLF who think we should place the emergency equiptment elsewhere to accomodate your luggage where would you suggest?
It's not much use to us/pax in the hold and stowing it in the galleys means reduced catering.....
And yes the CAA have an input here.....airlines do not just do their own thing. We have to be approved.
As a Pu on LowCo I think Girtbar has it in one and I shouldn't say this as my company would not agree on principle. The amount of stuff that pax cram into a non weight restricted cabin bag is unsafe. They want to avoid the hold charges and why wouldn't they. Most if not all of what they have in there is not essential for that flight however.
And the bag crates seem to be so much bigger downroute for the same dimentions.....any other crew find this
I cannot speak for what happens on FR if all pax turn up with a correctly sized cabin bag (unlikely) but I can say what happens at my lot.
On a flight from a certain italian airport on a 319 (156 pax capacity) 102 pax turned up with the contents of their houses crammed into their hand luggage which seemed to have cleared all ground channels. Because i have time pressures to board we don't argue on the steps but allow the SLF to sort it in the cabin.
When they can't the CC tag the bags and offload them to the hold after asking the pax to remove "essentials" that is medication, travel docs, nappies....
The poor dispatcher then has to drag all this down the steps to the hold so EZY avoid handling charges for that bag.......
Loco do exploit the luggage issue in the name of revenue......I don't deny this and I'm not saying this is right.
And to the "sniping" SLF who think we should place the emergency equiptment elsewhere to accomodate your luggage where would you suggest?
It's not much use to us/pax in the hold and stowing it in the galleys means reduced catering.....
And yes the CAA have an input here.....airlines do not just do their own thing. We have to be approved.
hats
Is the stuff about hat racks a joke and I am just a bit slow ? Were there ever really hat racks on passenger jets ? Oh, and as for carry on baggage it should be banned: you can't progress to your seat because of some dope blocking the aisle trying to wrestle luggage upwards (and then the other one checking to see if the precious clothing they put in was in danger of being crushed). Make the stowage bins smaller.
Overhead contents
And as I am about to abandon PPRuNe for 90 minutes, may I respectfully point out that SLF tend to carry everything on board as they tend not to trust the baggage handling system. It always amaze me how soon I am outside the terminal building if I don't have to wait for my baggage to arrive. And I am one of those luck ones that I have my baggage received late (the next day) just twice in my memory.
And also crews have also very little confident on the system that they carry their baggage with them in the cabin.
So I understand the SLF carrying everything with them.
Rwy in Sight
And also crews have also very little confident on the system that they carry their baggage with them in the cabin.
So I understand the SLF carrying everything with them.
Rwy in Sight
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Flew on United last week, four legs. Each sold out (oversold). Paid to check my roll aboard into the hold, $23 one way, so a total of $46 (discounted from $50). Just had a laptop bag to carry on. Still had difficulty stowing it in the overhead cos the selfish gits that didn't check their bags tried to bring on the equivalent of a small basement full of crap.
Now, what really pissed me off was that those gits who could not find a space got their suitcases loaded into the hold FOR FREE!!! WTF???? So basically, don't check luggage (containing more than the carry on size of liquids) and pay for it, wait till you get to the plane and ask for it to be placed in the hold for free!!!
Ozzy
Now, what really pissed me off was that those gits who could not find a space got their suitcases loaded into the hold FOR FREE!!! WTF???? So basically, don't check luggage (containing more than the carry on size of liquids) and pay for it, wait till you get to the plane and ask for it to be placed in the hold for free!!!
Ozzy