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Old 16th Aug 2009, 06:44
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I did not say anything about being happy about a closure of Melbourne.
This is what I said
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I think closing the Melbourne long haul base would be a very positive thing for a majority of crew.
I do feel for those that joined after the base was already in existence and never had to commute or live in Sydney.
But this is an airline and nowhere in the contract was location of base guaranteed.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 07:06
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positive = happy?

ok, FORGIVE me for thinking that 'happy' was the right word. I apologise.

If I were to reword the sentence to say "most crew would view the closure of the sydney base as a positive thing', how might this be interpreted?

You can understand the misunderstanding.


I am well aware of all conditions of employment. I have been here a long time, I love my job, I love my family and where I am currently based.


I hope the base does not close, and I repeat, if it does, I would not view it as a 'positive'.

End of rant. If anyone has any useful information, please pass it on. Thankyou!!
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 07:31
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First of all, just remember these are rumours only and anything could happen.

To be perfectly blunt, the closure of MEL and BKK would be a positive thing for SYD, BNE and AKL crew. Hey, if they closed SYD, that would be a positive for the other bases, of course.

I don't want to see anyone lose their job and I have to agree with Twiggs on this one. She never said she'd be "happy" to see people lose their job, just like I am not "happy" at the BKK crew probably losing their jobs. I enjoy working with the majority of Thai crew. But selfishly, if BKK, MEL, AKL, LHR and BNE all closed down and all the work came back to SYD, of course that would be a positive thing for SYD crew. That will never happen and I am happy about that, though if it did, I could live with the extra choice in flying.

On another note, this might be a good time to be a union member...
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 09:21
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There is an important element of this rumour as stated by Pegasus747 that has escaped our attention and that is the base would not close completely as it would have A380 crew there.
So flyergirl, all is not lost and there is another positive that the Perth based crew did not have.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 09:52
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Originally Posted by lowerlobe View Post
It would be like being unfortunate enough to be in a bank during a hold up....
I've got a better analogy for you ll. It's maybe more like an inheritance: It sux that someone close to you has died, that can't be denied. But then you get the inheritance, which is beneficial to you.

It's that simple. Twiggs isn't rejoicing in a possible base closure. I don't think anyone wants to see any of the Australian bases close. But if it happens, it doesn't mean there won't be benefits for those of us still around. I agree with a lot of your sentiments, ll, but haven't we learnt that this company doesn't work on morality, they work on maximum profits and "whatever it takes" [ie: whatever it takes today; tomorrow, it may be different. A*holes]. They don't care who they tread on. It's the same old story: there is no "u" in Qantas.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 10:13
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A380

If it is offered, I shall decide at that time.
I would just like a little more information, to assess any options... I hope some is forthcoming soon.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 08:45
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this week....

Well I have asked "official" channels. This week no Melb base closure being considered, BKK still "under review", all crew on reserve there as discussed elsewhere (what happened to that thread?).

Thanks to those who have offered support. Much appreciated.

Let's watch this space though... I will keep my fingers crossed, for myself and all others.

Cheers
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Old 13th Sep 2009, 13:37
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New bidding system

I have been hearing a lot about a new roster bidding system That the company want to introduce into SH...

Although Ive been hearing a lot ... noone seems to have much detail about it.. Does anyone have any detailed info??

I have heard it is a points base bidding system rather than seniorority... and the FWA would be done away with.. how would this work??

Also a move from monthly to 28 day rosters, this would align nicely with LH 56 day rosters... A first step maybe toward amalgamation????

Any thoughts or info

TW
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Old 15th Sep 2009, 07:57
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To put an end to FWA and a seniority based system of awarding rosters would mean big changes to the current short haul EBA.

The Qantas Domestic EBA has got rid of seniority and bidding for all new employees therefore it seems unlikely that there would be a push for major changes to EBA 7 just for the sake of new rostering IT
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 05:48
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Is it true??? Qflink to be endorsed on the 737's. Mate on check-in was told by his managers after a meeting a few days ago.
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 08:09
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I actually heard the same rumour the other day.... but it brings up many questions eg:

does it mean some Qantas 737s will be re-branded QantasLink?
is the QantaLink brand going?
is it a way of getting lesser paid flight attendants to crew some of the domestic routes?

Anyone else have any ideas?
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 08:50
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I think all of the above flitegirl... Maybe the 73's will remain qf but operated by qflink they now have the same uniform.

Any idea on an announcement for this? Its spreading like wild fire out there!
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 09:15
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Amalgamation of Qantas Shorthaul & Longhaul?.... I've been suggesting this for years!!
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 10:06
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Or S/H regional asia only.. all the other flying A380 only for L/H such as europe/americas and domestic jetstar and Qflink.
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 10:19
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Interesting...

Domestic Flights:

737 Qantaslink (Cityflyer)
320 Jetstar Dom

International Flights + Regional:

330/767/747 QAL Short Haul and QAL Long Haul Merged
A380 QCCA

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Old 7th Oct 2009, 12:34
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First I have heard about this, not sure how it would work. Maybe under some type of wet-lease maybe? Can we just start operating QF mainline 737's once endorsed? I thought there were legal implications involved AOC or something im not expert though... clearly!
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 04:53
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apparently all the 73-4's under a qflink banner to do mining routes.
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 08:46
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Those rumours have no substance and are completely false.

After nine years flying it never ceases to amaze me that cabin crew can make such large rumours out of nothing. Just because Link crew change the colour of their scarf they are, suddenly, about to endorsed on 737s (but only the -400s!) to do mining routes??!

This is not a slur at any of the above posts. Just an observation and rant at how dangerous it is to have demotivated and bored flight attendants.

I agree with the idea that Qantas will, eventually, order a large regional jet to replace some 737 East Coast flying (similar to the East Coast 717 operation of a few years ago). In my opinion this should have been done already. But that strategy is a completely different kettle of fish to bored flight attendants playing CEO.
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 10:02
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I heard somebody ( clueless surfy mother ) refer to Jetconnect as QantasLink. As we all know - Jetconnect is Jetconnect and operate 737-300/400 and now 800 on flights between NZ and Australia using ZK registered Aircraft in Qantas livery and uniforms using NZ based crew.

Soon flights to and from Aus/NZ will depart from domestic terminals, it is probably then that we will start to see Jetconnect do such duties as Auckland-Sydney with a Cityflyer SYD-MEL-SYD tagged on to the duty after it.

I think the word QantasLink is being substituted for Jetconnect by the mothers club who know nothing.

Changing 734's over to QFLINK would be very costly, unless they still used QF techies and the cabin crew were QFLINK (eaa and sunnies ). Then we would see quite a huge cost saving as I certainly notice the difference in my pay from being an ex regional crew member to now flying shorthaul !!
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 10:34
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I think you are on the mark there QFskywalker. I've heard people get it wrong so many times when they refer to the QF subsidiary companies. It's probably just a rumour that has spread because of a few poeple's misunderstanding of who jetconnect are
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