BA and Project Columbus III
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From: Slough
OK, lots here to read through, not skim through.
Yes I am cc, and no, not fishing.
I am afraid I dont trust 100% what BASSA, BA, or even the Government says. Call me a healthy sceptic, I am sure you have called me a few things already!!
I will have a slow read of todays posts, but it probably won't be until tomorrow, and it will probably not change my mind that striking over this issue will not provide us with a positive outcome, but will more likely to lead to dismissal.
SoThere
Yes I am cc, and no, not fishing.
I am afraid I dont trust 100% what BASSA, BA, or even the Government says. Call me a healthy sceptic, I am sure you have called me a few things already!!
I will have a slow read of todays posts, but it probably won't be until tomorrow, and it will probably not change my mind that striking over this issue will not provide us with a positive outcome, but will more likely to lead to dismissal.
SoThere
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From: Slough
I knew I should have gone to bed.
Part of the fun of this job is having the time in Hotel rooms and at home to do Open University courses, and generally hunt around on the web, sometimes you uncover some interesting, and occasionally thought provoking stuff.
Such as........Twrecks says "As with the demise of the 757, crews would be able to hold another license."...........as you head toward the picket line, will you be able to hold up your 'licence' for all to see? No, I didnt think so, as we do not hold a licence on any aircraft. Not incendiary, or anti-anything, just a fact, that is never aired.
SoThere
Part of the fun of this job is having the time in Hotel rooms and at home to do Open University courses, and generally hunt around on the web, sometimes you uncover some interesting, and occasionally thought provoking stuff.
Such as........Twrecks says "As with the demise of the 757, crews would be able to hold another license."...........as you head toward the picket line, will you be able to hold up your 'licence' for all to see? No, I didnt think so, as we do not hold a licence on any aircraft. Not incendiary, or anti-anything, just a fact, that is never aired.
SoThere
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From: Slough
I really need to go to bed now!
Crunchy said "We all know every department in BA is being hit, but CC are being hit the hardest".............um, I maybe wrong, but I think the staff in the Terminals are going to be reduced by around 25%, and that the Cargo people at LGW are already into the 90 day period leading up to termination of contracts.
We are not facing that sort of thing, yet.
Crunchy said "We all know every department in BA is being hit, but CC are being hit the hardest".............um, I maybe wrong, but I think the staff in the Terminals are going to be reduced by around 25%, and that the Cargo people at LGW are already into the 90 day period leading up to termination of contracts.
We are not facing that sort of thing, yet.
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From: Slough
You both disappoint me.
So, whats the problem? Is it so bad that i think for myself, do my own research, and do not implicitly trust everything that is said to me or that I read?
Or is it because I said that 'we are not licenced'? God boys and girls, its the truth! Its about time people started treating us as adults and told us truths, not just things we would like to hear.
I bet you had an open mind and a free will once!
So, whats the problem? Is it so bad that i think for myself, do my own research, and do not implicitly trust everything that is said to me or that I read?
Or is it because I said that 'we are not licenced'? God boys and girls, its the truth! Its about time people started treating us as adults and told us truths, not just things we would like to hear.
I bet you had an open mind and a free will once!
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From: Warwickshire
Hi imastweardsothere
You can read this over your morning Tea.
It's seems you are keen for us to fight . Their is something odd about your threads my colleague, I can not put my finger on it.
So for the moment I will treat you as a curious guest. I would just like to reassure you that the majority of Cabin Crew do not want industrial action, and no industrial action is currently proposed.
Nevertheless, I would suggest you voice your concern's and opinion's on the subject of strikes
to closed forums such as the BASSA website or Crewforum which are more suited.
You can read this over your morning Tea.
Such as........Twrecks says "As with the demise of the 757, crews would be able to hold another license."...........as you head toward the picket line, will you be able to hold up your 'licence' for all to see? No, I didnt think so, as we do not hold a licence on any aircraft. Not incendiary, or anti-anything, just a fact, that is never aired.
It's seems you are keen for us to fight . Their is something odd about your threads my colleague, I can not put my finger on it.
So for the moment I will treat you as a curious guest. I would just like to reassure you that the majority of Cabin Crew do not want industrial action, and no industrial action is currently proposed. Nevertheless, I would suggest you voice your concern's and opinion's on the subject of strikes
to closed forums such as the BASSA website or Crewforum which are more suited.
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From: UK
Quoting "Imastweardsothere" just to do doors, evacuations and PA's is? Any ideas anyone?
Yes because thats all we do get trained for as crew.
no firefighting no medical or CPR or defib or decompression or restraint, or dangerous goods or anything like that.
Someone forgetting exactly what they did on their "CABIN CREW" training??
Yes because thats all we do get trained for as crew.
no firefighting no medical or CPR or defib or decompression or restraint, or dangerous goods or anything like that.Someone forgetting exactly what they did on their "CABIN CREW" training??
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From: Slough
Its a shame you cant have an opinion on here that differs to the view of 'the mob'.
I do remember my basic training, and how proud, abd nervous i felt after it.
I just cant help feeling we are walking into a well planned trap.
We need to stop emotive posts about being on mimimum wage and the like, and fines that have happened in the past. We need to think about how and what we can change to stay in business and in a job.
I do remember my basic training, and how proud, abd nervous i felt after it.
I just cant help feeling we are walking into a well planned trap.
We need to stop emotive posts about being on mimimum wage and the like, and fines that have happened in the past. We need to think about how and what we can change to stay in business and in a job.
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From: Rear Galley
With BA currently in talks with unions about existing contract changes, the possible introduction of a new LHR fleet and a recruitment freeze across the airline, I wanted to ask how the operation is going now that BA has entered the summer season.
BA normally have new entrant courses running pretty much constantly throughout the year to cover natural wastage etc. but no such courses have run for some time. How is this possible?
Are existing crew working harder than normal and hitting high hours or are things 'ok'.
BA normally have new entrant courses running pretty much constantly throughout the year to cover natural wastage etc. but no such courses have run for some time. How is this possible?
Are existing crew working harder than normal and hitting high hours or are things 'ok'.
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From: Middlesesx
Balboy; You are correct so far this year there has been 4 NECC courses with the latest 2 due to finish in the next couple of weeks. There is no news of any more at this time and many of the trainers are being encouraged to look to other courses they might deliver?
Junior trash
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From: UK
Surely you must be wondering if BASSA is working for YOUR best interests given they have refused BAs offer of 24hr slips in MEX? BALPA have agreed a temp alleviation to minimise exposure, meanwhicle the CC stay on 5/6 trips in a closed hotel.
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From: UK
BASSA unwilling to give alleviation for 24hr. slips in the event it makes precedent for BA to withdraw the 2 local night agreement for long range trips. Union dogma comes before cc health risk.
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From: The Winchester
TheKabaka
Never mind the fines ( if true) - on a practical note just how can the Cabin Crew "ignore" BASSA....they can't just up sticks from the MEX hotel after 24 hours, roll up at the airport and volunteer to operate back. Reducing the slip requires cordination from London, that requires the approval of CC management, who in turn risk the wrath of the BASSA Reps ............................................