Don't you just hate these people??

[Michael SWS]

If this thread proves anything it is simply that cabin crew appear to have no sense of humour. (But then we SLF knew that, didn't we?)

He forgot to mention the ludicrous instruction on British Airways that the lifejacket should be tied in a double bow at the side. (That always gets a huge laugh when Pam Ann mentions it in her stand-up routine. As does her impression of a survivor trying to attract attention with that little whistle over the sound of the rescue helicopter and the crashing seas).

I always pay close attention to the safety briefing every time I fly, just in case it does me any good in the event of an emergency. But the chances are that it will do no good whatsoever, and everyone knows it.

[B Fraser]

When your torso is found (abdomen and spine having been severed by a 50G impact and a single point harness), you still need to be identified. I suspect the real purpose of the brace position is to leave your dental records intact.

As an errant youth, I used to draw on the safety card. I thought the addition of sharks fins to the picture of the floating airliner was quite funny.

Tin hat on.....

[Rwy in Sight]

B Fraser,

At least you left the card in the aircraft and you made it more realistic.

Rwy in Sight

[Juud]

Micheal SWS, if your post proves anything, it's that SOME passengers switch off whatever passes for a functional brain when they board an airliner. (but then we cabin crew knew that. )

Read this and see if you can get at least a modicum of knowledge past your (probably fear induced) irrational and grossly erroneous preconceived notions.

[Juzz51]

Juud,

Thanks for supplying that link, brilliant post. Well done!

[Duncan Wells]

A response

In response to Just Good Friends and others, I seem to have incurred your wrath and that is not good. It was certainly not my intention to make you cross. Apart from our differences in view point on a number of issues, I included something which I suspect is at the heart of your upset. In a sense this was gratuitous, unnecessary and indeed untrue. Airline staff have always been brilliant in an emergency, most often heroic and certainly selfless in their actions, to suggest anything less was uncharitable and untrue. I have amended the article accordingly. You may not like what I say, you may think I am an idiot and many other unprintable things but I am always polite. I understand that you are incensed and hope that the amended version will show that your opinion is valued even if my view may not match up to everything you hold dear. That said, I amended the article but it has not yet been republished. I will investigate. If you would like me to include it on this site I will be happy to do so. You may however wish to leave it be.

[Juud]

Since itīs sunday and appropriate letīs have some Luke:

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Bring the fattened calf and kill it, and let's eat and celebrate!

Mr Wells, ignorance redeemed is a mighty fine sight.

Please do post the improved article here as well as on your bl*g.

[Abusing_the_sky]

Seriously, you naughty ones, did you NOT read Juud's posts?????? What on earth is wrong with you???
Get off my aircraft. NOW

[TightSlot]

Well, that's got to be a first...

Hats off to Mr. Wells please, for having the courage to post, and to act.

And Juud has found God and had a good meal - what a week!

[Simonta]

Some more consideration for Mr Wells amendments

Mr Wells

Fine indeed that you posted, and defended yourself. However, whether we agree or not is actually not the question. The question is simply one of common sense.

I encourage you to read this link and consider the following facts:

http://www.pprune.org/4388872-post80.html

1. Most disasters with fatalities also include survivors.
2. Most serious incidents do not include fatalities
3. Your odds of being a survivor in a serious incident are far greater than that of being a fatality.
4. The odds of surviving increase with knowledge of what to do and when to do it.
5. If you flew 24x7x365, on average, it would be 700 and something years before you were involved in a serious incident, let alone one with fatalities.

There can be no other conclusion than taking careful note of safety procedures is required, expected, courteous and the only logical thing to do.

Regards

Simon

[Kerosine]

Unless I'm missing something I cannot find the original post by this Duncan chap

[Little_Red_Hat]

The articl referred to was linked on an external site. Seems that article has been removed, possibly pending editing as noted by 'Duncan'.

Glad to see not all journalists think they are above the facts! Would like to see what the article says now though...

[Dolley]

Mr Wells,

I am impressed that you not just took on the feedback but even amended your article. Unfortunately the edited version has yet to be found but I am looking forward to reading it. I will do so with all the manners I have been brought up with, and I hope in return you will listen to the next safety briefing when you are on an aircraft. Because even if you disagree with it's contents, that is certainly the polite thing to do.
A bit more genuine politeness would do this world some good, and would help a lot of people who disagree to still get on with each other. Quite often being polite is nothing else then showing the other party respect. Anyway, I'm starting to drift off.

Thanks for acknowledging us, and the work we are doing.

[Duncan Wells]

I just wanted to let you know that I edited the article and submitted it to the Telegraph. And it's disappeared. They are looking for it. If they can't find it I will have to edit it again. So please hang on if you would. It will turn up, although whether it should or not given the hoohaa is another matter.