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Old 8th Aug 2008, 05:06
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FA sues passenger over cabin dispute

A Continental Airlines FA is suing a preacher's wife over an incident in the first class cabin during a flight to Vail, Colorado. The wife of evangelical pastor Joel Osteen shoved a flight attendant during an in-flight tantrum over a stained seat, a fellow crew member testified Thursday at a civil trial over the incident.

Flight attendant: Osteen's wife threw tantrum - Yahoo! News

(My apologies if this is not the proper forum for posting this.)

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You Go Girl ! !

Good on Ms. Brown for suing Ms. O'steen. Bad on Mr. Hardin for being a lawyer who will say ANYTHING to a jury

Note - The FAA "sides" with Ms. Brown in a "matter of FACT" . . . .

YOU GO GIRL

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Err... I am all for suing

The preachers wife sounds like a total pain in the a@se, and deserves to lose. But can the flight attendant be seriously claiming that she is suffering "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Depression and Haemorroids!!" as result of the incident?!! I think she might be in the wrong job.

This kind of excessive claim discredits people who genuinely suffered injury as a result of real trauma and is an abuse of the legal system. A simple claim against the moron for assault and minor injuries would be enough to make the point. The airlines should agree that anyone banned from one airline will be banned from them all. That would be a genuine punishment without these type of ridiculous claims.

Reading about such claims makes me very stressed and I can feel a haemorroid coming on. Shall I sue PPRUNE?
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Haemorroids ???

Perhaps the answer to your problem may not be in suing PPRuNe but taking it down a notch and eating some prunes??

Just my humble opinion!
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I share your raised eyebrows over some of the FA's claims, too. Would have been more credible without that.
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Who Would Jesus Assault?

Not sure if this has been covered here on this forum, but there's an interesting trial taking place in Houston, TX involving a Continental Airlines FA. Here's an article from the Houston Chronicle:

Jury set to get case in suit against Osteen's wife
By JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press Writer
Aug. 14, 2008, 12:10AM

HOUSTON — Continental Airlines flight attendant Sharon Brown says she was attacked by the wife of megachurch pastor Joel Osteen and the assault was so traumatic it left her unable to work for five days and damaged her religious beliefs.

But Victoria Osteen's attorney has repeatedly tried to show during a nearly weeklong civil trial that his client never hit or pushed Brown and that the alleged assault was just a figment of the flight attendant's imagination.

Closing arguments in the civil trial that resulted from Brown's lawsuit against Victoria Osteen were expected on Thursday after both sides rested a day earlier.

Brown told jurors the co-pastor of Houston's famed Lakewood Church became verbally and physically abusive before the start of a 2005 flight from Houston to Vail, Colo.

The flight attendant claims she suffered physical and psychological injuries after Victoria Osteen got angry that a spill on the armrest of her first-class seat was not quickly cleaned up.

Another flight attendant on the flight, Maria Johnson, supported Brown's claims, testifying Victoria Osteen got so upset, she threw Brown against a bathroom door and elbowed her in the left breast while attempting to rush into the cockpit.

Both flight attendants testified they had to block the cockpit door to prevent Victoria Osteen from getting inside.

Brown also wants an apology and punitive damages amounting to 10 percent of Victoria Osteen's net worth as part of her lawsuit. Victoria Osteen's attorney, Rusty Hardin, has declined to discuss her finances, so it was unclear how much 10 percent would be.

Both Victoria Osteen and Joel Osteen, who was on the same flight, testified last week that no attack took place.

Victoria Osteen told jurors she went up to Brown after no one helped her clean up the spill. She said it was Brown who became angry during their discussion. Victoria Osteen denied ever touching Brown or trying to get into the cockpit.

Three passengers in first-class and a pilot aboard testified Wednesday they never saw or heard anything that indicated Victoria Osteen assaulted Brown.

Hardin, during sometimes relentless and aggressive cross-examination of Brown, tried to cast doubt the flight attendant suffered any physical or mental injuries. Brown admitted that doctors found no physical injuries on her and she delayed getting psychiatric treatment.

Claudia Hall, a former Continental flight attendant, testified by video deposition she was falsely accused by Brown of hitting and pushing her into the bathroom wall of a plane in November 1995.

The Osteens are co-pastors of Houston's Lakewood Church, which draws about 42,000 people each week for services. Joel Osteen's weekly television address is broadcast in the U.S. and internationally and his books are sold around the globe.

The Osteens paid a $3,000 fine the Federal Aviation Administration levied against Victoria Osteen for interfering with a crew member but testified they did that to put the incident behind them.


. . . and from a write up about this incident on AOL:

Brown contends she suffers from anxiety and hemorrhoids because of the incident and that her faith was adversely affected. She wants an apology and punitive damages amounting to 10 percent of Victoria Osteen's net worth. But under questioning Tuesday by Victoria Osteen's attorney, she acknowledged that no doctor has diagnosed any physical injury resulting from the encounter.

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Maybe as part of the settlement, the plaintiff will be awarded a lifetime's supply of Preparation H ??? I guess this goes to show that dealing with "problem" passengers can literally be a pain in the ass!

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Texas jury rejects lawsuit against Osteen's wife

It's over. The jury didn't buy the FA's story.

Texas jury rejects lawsuit against Osteen's wife - Yahoo! News


BTW, I most definitely did not title this thread "Who would Jesus assault?" I have no idea how that title came to be there.
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I most definitely did not title this thread
Pity! - it's right up there in the top 3 all-time favorite thread titles ever list. It wasn't me either, but I wish it had been.
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BTW, I most definitely did not title this thread "Who would Jesus assault?" I have no idea how that title came to be there.
Pity! - it's right up there in the top 3 all-time favorite thread titles ever list. It wasn't me either, but I wish it had been.
Soliciting credit where credit is due, I will hereby step forward and acknowledge my guilt as charged!

I was somewhat pressed for time the other day and didn't scan the bulletin board to see if this topic had been previously discussed. Consequently, I started a new thread and, apparently, one of the other moderators moved my post over to the thread that had been started by Mark in CA on AUG08 at 05:06.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to tend to my flaring hemorrhoids. I had to deal with another problem passenger yesterday . . .

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Whom would Jesus assault? Well I dare say there's things Ryanair could dream up that would make him lash out the same as he did to the moneychangers in the Temple.
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