Cabin crew rude???
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Agreed, what kind of mindless, arrogant post is that?
nflyer, I have found air stewards to be the most patient and polite people, you obviously manage to get their backs up though!
nflyer, I have found air stewards to be the most patient and polite people, you obviously manage to get their backs up though!
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nflyer, curisity got the better of me, and looking back at your previous posts it paints a clear picture...
Attitude clearly NOT demonstrated in your other posts...
Finally...
Does anyone know what are good attributes of perosnality an airline pilot should have?
Jus wondring?
Jus wondring?
Nice to hear your thoughts but i always thought they were there for our amusement? I mean those dumb seatblet demos - like someone wouldn't know how to put theirs on????
Why don't cabin crew wear miniskirts like the old days. It would make us male passengers very happy!!!
I am holder of PPL and recently had accident in C-152. A heavy landing with nosegear collapse.
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nyfler,
You seem very concerned as to whether not having a sporting background, or having had a slight incident as a ppl, or the fact that you don't play computer games etc. will have effect your chances of becoming a commercial pilot. May I suggest that, IMHO, it may be that your attitude will have more of a bearing on your chances.
JSL
P.S. Kerosine, you got there before me!
You seem very concerned as to whether not having a sporting background, or having had a slight incident as a ppl, or the fact that you don't play computer games etc. will have effect your chances of becoming a commercial pilot. May I suggest that, IMHO, it may be that your attitude will have more of a bearing on your chances.
JSL
P.S. Kerosine, you got there before me!
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nflyer now that is a wide and broadly sweeping statement isn`t it?
I think this maybe to do with a similar post regarding passengers getting worse (SLF prefix)?
So lets see..
Boarding a flight... Morning Sir/Madame. Hi there. Smiling. Checking boarding cards. 100 passenger depending on route around 30 will either snub me, growel, continue to chat on a mobile phone, look at me as how dare I speak to them.
Now forget that bit "your paid for that" line. Tell me how does that make you feel when you walk into your work place if you had your customers treat you like that?
Now I won`t promise a passenger the earth. Mainly because it I can not promise to deliver it as too many outside factors out of my control.
This really takes the form of transfering passengers. I have seen many of my collegues "promise" , OK, say this will happen, that will happen etc etc which can so not happen. I say you need to go to XYZ and the ground staff will sort out your problem. Because the said passenger hasn`t heard what they want to hear they see me as unhelpful perhaps? They will ask another crew member and an other and another. Till that is they have heard the answer they want to hear.
So the tight connection is getting tighter. (the airline staff on staff travel not only have their fingers crossed they now have their legs crossed.. that your not going to make it and they get your seat )The aircraft pulls on to stand. Engines off. The transfer passenger bitting at the bit now.. The jetty is not working, so got get steps... 10 mins... later no steps ... 20 mins later the steps appear.... gotta bus the passengers? Or the jetty is attached... how about the aircraft on the next stand is boarding and because this gate shares the top of the pier and you can`t mix embarking and disembarking passengers so we have to wait 10 mins..
Now my look of walking into a brick wall. Careful here... You might not be a picture book yourself. However, I don`t see myself as any particular hunk here but I`m a 6`2 dark haired late 30`s kinda guy 46" chest and 34" waist.. told handsome.. anyway my nose isn`t flat..
and remember some of us have the same problems as you do and guess what I also eat drink and poop just like you.
Enjoy you next flight.. and give us a great big grin, say Hello and laugh about life.. it makes it a go a lot easier and happier for you
I think this maybe to do with a similar post regarding passengers getting worse (SLF prefix)?
So lets see..
Boarding a flight... Morning Sir/Madame. Hi there. Smiling. Checking boarding cards. 100 passenger depending on route around 30 will either snub me, growel, continue to chat on a mobile phone, look at me as how dare I speak to them.
Now forget that bit "your paid for that" line. Tell me how does that make you feel when you walk into your work place if you had your customers treat you like that?
Now I won`t promise a passenger the earth. Mainly because it I can not promise to deliver it as too many outside factors out of my control.
This really takes the form of transfering passengers. I have seen many of my collegues "promise" , OK, say this will happen, that will happen etc etc which can so not happen. I say you need to go to XYZ and the ground staff will sort out your problem. Because the said passenger hasn`t heard what they want to hear they see me as unhelpful perhaps? They will ask another crew member and an other and another. Till that is they have heard the answer they want to hear.
So the tight connection is getting tighter. (the airline staff on staff travel not only have their fingers crossed they now have their legs crossed.. that your not going to make it and they get your seat
)The aircraft pulls on to stand. Engines off. The transfer passenger bitting at the bit now.. The jetty is not working, so got get steps... 10 mins... later no steps ... 20 mins later the steps appear.... gotta bus the passengers? Or the jetty is attached... how about the aircraft on the next stand is boarding and because this gate shares the top of the pier and you can`t mix embarking and disembarking passengers so we have to wait 10 mins..Now my look of walking into a brick wall. Careful here... You might not be a picture book yourself. However, I don`t see myself as any particular hunk here but I`m a 6`2 dark haired late 30`s kinda guy 46" chest and 34" waist.. told handsome.. anyway my nose isn`t flat..
and remember some of us have the same problems as you do and guess what I also eat drink and poop just like you.
Enjoy you next flight.. and give us a great big grin, say Hello and laugh about life.. it makes it a go a lot easier and happier for you
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Hi
I fly both at the 'pointed end' and often 'down the back' (with family) I most definately think that Cabin Crew work extremely hard over long periods ie:UK-Egypt-UK, UK-Cabo Verde-UK etc etc
You'll always get some Pill*ck who wants to wind you up! Judging by the response to nflyer's
Posting I think he has succeeded in doing just that!
Pikey
I fly both at the 'pointed end' and often 'down the back' (with family) I most definately think that Cabin Crew work extremely hard over long periods ie:UK-Egypt-UK, UK-Cabo Verde-UK etc etc
You'll always get some Pill*ck who wants to wind you up! Judging by the response to nflyer's
Posting I think he has succeeded in doing just that! Pikey
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I don't fly often, so I am no expert, but I have worked in travel for 15 years and always found all cabin crew the most highly professional people in this industry.
I recently flew from GLA to LHR and due to a csa plane deciding to take its time coming off the runway and a bit of bad weather we diverted to LTN for refueling. The flight crew were brilliant in reading the situation and the pull up in an airbus 320 was one of the most fun with my clothes on. The cabin crew were brilliant when we were wheels down in deepest Bedforshire giving plenty of info to us in the back.
The most comical time was a VS Cabin crew member who asked my profoundly deaf brother " Can you read my lips better if I wear red lipstick ? "
Anyway wanted to say to mr nflyer that I can't see you being the last off if god forbid something happens.
Sorry to rant but its Friday and that thread was quite annoying.
Thank you to all of you to making flying more interesting !!
I recently flew from GLA to LHR and due to a csa plane deciding to take its time coming off the runway and a bit of bad weather we diverted to LTN for refueling. The flight crew were brilliant in reading the situation and the pull up in an airbus 320 was one of the most fun with my clothes on. The cabin crew were brilliant when we were wheels down in deepest Bedforshire giving plenty of info to us in the back.
The most comical time was a VS Cabin crew member who asked my profoundly deaf brother " Can you read my lips better if I wear red lipstick ? "
Anyway wanted to say to mr nflyer that I can't see you being the last off if god forbid something happens.
Sorry to rant but its Friday and that thread was quite annoying.
Thank you to all of you to making flying more interesting !!
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You completely demonstrate your stupidity, arrogance and lack of respect for people who do a very demanding job. I have no direct experience of cabin crew except for as a passenger and I have seen on numerous occasions the way other passengers treat them. Demanding this demanding that, extra ice, more coffee, why is the flight delayed (despite already quite clearly being explained that is is due to a minor technical fault etc.. etc..) People such as yourself ought to stop and think for a while and try to understand another person first before jumping to such a derogatory and sweeping statement in which you severely discredit yourself. You are either having a laugh with this statement or you demonstrate the capacity of thought of a 5 year old child.
Perhaps you ought to try the job out for a day and see how you like to deal with people such as yourself.
You completely demonstrate your stupidity, arrogance and lack of respect for people who do a very demanding job. I have no direct experience of cabin crew except for as a passenger and I have seen on numerous occasions the way other passengers treat them. Demanding this demanding that, extra ice, more coffee, why is the flight delayed (despite already quite clearly being explained that is is due to a minor technical fault etc.. etc..) People such as yourself ought to stop and think for a while and try to understand another person first before jumping to such a derogatory and sweeping statement in which you severely discredit yourself. You are either having a laugh with this statement or you demonstrate the capacity of thought of a 5 year old child.
Perhaps you ought to try the job out for a day and see how you like to deal with people such as yourself.
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They are not rude in the slightest, they just have a job to do, and sometimes if that means not being the happiest person on earth, then that's fine.
The only complaint I have, is that I found CC at a certain airline rather patronising to me. I don't see it as being rude, just getting the job done.
And they all look fantastic!
The only complaint I have, is that I found CC at a certain airline rather patronising to me. I don't see it as being rude, just getting the job done.
And they all look fantastic!
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***They are not rude in the slightest, they just have a job to do, and sometimes if that means not being the happiest person on earth, then that's fine.*******
That could be to do with the fact that we may have not come off a flight untill 8pm the night before and are up at 4 the next morning for another flight it gets to you after a while
That could be to do with the fact that we may have not come off a flight untill 8pm the night before and are up at 4 the next morning for another flight it gets to you after a while
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nflyer, you are an absolute b******!
Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute
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Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute
!
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nflyer has been banned yesterday after a string of immature and provocative posts. This topic, however, could turn out to be very interesting if we refrain to enter defensive mode and decide to treat it like any other, less sensitive one
nflyer has been banned - there's justice after all. Anyway, he's probably never been on a commerical airliner in his life!
As someone who has been a passenger on commercial airlines for more than 45 years, I have every respect for cabin crew. I've flown in all the classes, scheduled, charter, freight in the cabin etc., and with more than 100 airlines, so I think my experience is relevant. Inevitably, there have been some trips where the cabin crew have been less than helpful, and I regret to say that some of these were with the flag-carrier. Simple option - I stopped flying with them.
As you know, there's a certain type of person who seems to think that they only have to snap their fingers in order to have someone there attending to their needs; this applies beyond the aviation industry. Sadly, there are even more of them than there used to be.
Forgive them. They are probably totally inadequate at their jobs, and maybe in other areas too. They are ignorant, and do not understand that you have to be properly trained in order to carry out your job - perhaps because they weren't properly trained for their own!
As someone who has been a passenger on commercial airlines for more than 45 years, I have every respect for cabin crew. I've flown in all the classes, scheduled, charter, freight in the cabin etc., and with more than 100 airlines, so I think my experience is relevant. Inevitably, there have been some trips where the cabin crew have been less than helpful, and I regret to say that some of these were with the flag-carrier. Simple option - I stopped flying with them.
As you know, there's a certain type of person who seems to think that they only have to snap their fingers in order to have someone there attending to their needs; this applies beyond the aviation industry. Sadly, there are even more of them than there used to be.
Forgive them. They are probably totally inadequate at their jobs, and maybe in other areas too. They are ignorant, and do not understand that you have to be properly trained in order to carry out your job - perhaps because they weren't properly trained for their own!
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nflyer, you are an absolute b******!
Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute!
Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute
!
I have came across many Cabin crew who look fairly depressed in their roles... I couldn't do what they do especially when you have petty passengers arguing over seats, drinks and silly airline policies.
It's sheer ignorance of you to conclude that every cabin crew in the world are rude. Having worked in a customer service role myself, I fully understand how much of an affect one bad customer can be on your day.
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Nosewheel landings are due to inattention. Perhaps that is your downfall. If you pay attention, you may notice when flying, that it is a remarkable and incredibly effective gift to the travelling public. As a pilot of 35 years and a passenger even longer, I cannot remember being treated rudely by any crew on a commercial flight. Then, my attitude is that I see crew working hard at a seemingly at times impossible task. Throw in fares that are clueless how lucky they are to be travelling in such a manner, and how a little patience and respect will go a long way, and the problem is obvious. Then there's that inattention thing.
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nflyer, you are an absolute b******!
Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute!
Now, i am a young enthusiast so i don't know the industry very well but one of the things that i do know is that cabin crew work their absolute a***s of to make everybody happy on-board!
what an absolute
!
(yes, im 16, I can look at myself as a more mature person than 14 year olds, result!
)Yours truly
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I do kind of agree with both sides of the argument, as cabin crew myself i can see where everybody is coming from in saying that we work hard and sometimes we may not be as approachable/friendly as we should be. However i do work with some crew who think that they are honestly better than the job, and the only thing they are there for is to tell off the pax when they do something not in the safety rules.
They are in the minority, but there are a few cabin crew who i know who need to get off their high horses and remember we are there to serve the passengers regardless of weather they smile at us or not.
They are in the minority, but there are a few cabin crew who i know who need to get off their high horses and remember we are there to serve the passengers regardless of weather they smile at us or not.