The Great CC Muffin Heist
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The CC member was reported by the CSD and there was no Police or Customs involvement. Most LHR staff would know that the Police and Customs have little interest in anything that takes place with regard to theft from the Company by an employee. This seems to be a personality issue which might be very costly foir the Steward.
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Just goes to show, WATCH YOUR BACKS. There will always be some jumped up little twerp who takes delight in grassing up other crew. 
The guy took a bloody muffin that was going to be thrown away, hardly the same as raiding the Duty Free trolley. Pax food is crap anyway, I'd rather stick with crew food!
The guy took a bloody muffin that was going to be thrown away, hardly the same as raiding the Duty Free trolley. Pax food is crap anyway, I'd rather stick with crew food!
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You may think that but in my time in BA there have been quite a few incidents like this and very rarely is there any serious come back for the people who just had a biscuit or a pint of milk. It's the ones who had a pint of milk, a slab of miniatures and a DF camera in their bag that get the disciplinary, and these individuals are usually well known to the company prior to that. Despite all the protestations I can't think of a single incident in the last 5 years when someone has been sacked for something as trivial as a muffin.
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Hand Solo,
If you have ''seen it with your very eyes''(theft I presume)!!,then why have you not reported it?.
Does that not make you as guilty as them?!!.
Just a thought!!.
WTDWL.
If you have ''seen it with your very eyes''(theft I presume)!!,then why have you not reported it?.
Does that not make you as guilty as them?!!.
Just a thought!!.
WTDWL.
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No because I didn't steal it, and once it's off the aircraft and in a hotel room I can't prove anything, nor is it my job to. But I do know if someones got a handbag full of miniatures then they probably haven't been saving up a months worth of crew purchase allowances for one big night out.
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Grassing someone up will earn you a reputation at BA. Some of the more senior crew on here may remember that main crew member who used to grass people up. It got to the point where he couldn't park his car in the car park anymore.
If I was the CSD that saw this guy take the muffin, I would have told him to bin it explain why but I wouldn't have gone to the trouble of reporting him. If it really is just about a muffin, the main crew member may eventually be reinstated but the CSD will have to live out his/her career with a "reputation".
This is why I'm not entirely convinced it was just about a muffin but then again, I'm sad to say, I wouldn't be surprised if it was either.
If I was the CSD that saw this guy take the muffin, I would have told him to bin it explain why but I wouldn't have gone to the trouble of reporting him. If it really is just about a muffin, the main crew member may eventually be reinstated but the CSD will have to live out his/her career with a "reputation".
This is why I'm not entirely convinced it was just about a muffin but then again, I'm sad to say, I wouldn't be surprised if it was either.
Excuse me for perhaps appearing thick, but what on earth is wrong with a crew member taking a discarded muffin? I can see no loss to the company or the passenger who did not want his in-flight stodge, what I do see is a country drowning in petty regulations enforced by an ever-growing army of interfering 'jobsworths'
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If you allow someone to take a muffin, it wont stop there. Work Rules generally state you can not remove anything off the aircraft, including food that would otherwise be discarded.
Having these rules doesnt allow for any deviation or loophole when it comes to stealing.
We cant even take our water bottles that we have drunk from off the aircraft. Seems silly, but it makes me think that if I cant take that, I best not remove any alcohol or Duty Free without a receipt. Full time employment now and in the future is far too important to me.
Having these rules doesnt allow for any deviation or loophole when it comes to stealing.
We cant even take our water bottles that we have drunk from off the aircraft. Seems silly, but it makes me think that if I cant take that, I best not remove any alcohol or Duty Free without a receipt. Full time employment now and in the future is far too important to me.
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Hi Guys,
I worked for an Australian low cost airline last year and it was the same for us. Nothing was to be removed or given to any other employee from the aircraft regardless of whether or not it was to be discarded.
Its stated in the training manuals thats these actions would be classed as theft and dealt with accordingly.
It does seem a little odd that this CC would have such a stern penalty for a muffin, I can only assume that perhaps it was not his first time at making this mistake or mayber something a little more serious!?
I worked for an Australian low cost airline last year and it was the same for us. Nothing was to be removed or given to any other employee from the aircraft regardless of whether or not it was to be discarded.
Its stated in the training manuals thats these actions would be classed as theft and dealt with accordingly.
It does seem a little odd that this CC would have such a stern penalty for a muffin, I can only assume that perhaps it was not his first time at making this mistake or mayber something a little more serious!?
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Lets set this stright
As per a BA spokesman " its half baked to suggest we would suspend someone over a muffin"...
Now, that should tell you it is not JUST a muffin. This person will now under go an investigation, as would anyone who were found in the same situation.
I understand "a muffin" was reported by The Sun newspaper etc. Humm I know where I would perfer to get my news from..... And it is not the SUN !.
Once this has been delt with, I hope we get a report on the FACTS around this case. It just may make a few people think, before they lift stuff that they should not.
Now, that should tell you it is not JUST a muffin. This person will now under go an investigation, as would anyone who were found in the same situation.
I understand "a muffin" was reported by The Sun newspaper etc. Humm I know where I would perfer to get my news from..... And it is not the SUN !.
Once this has been delt with, I hope we get a report on the FACTS around this case. It just may make a few people think, before they lift stuff that they should not.
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At my airline we are allowed to take crew food and water. Why the heavens shouldn't we??? 
I don't understand why some airlines won't even let crew take their own water bottles off the plane.
Oh we also take discarded pax newspapers and magazines...
I don't understand why some airlines won't even let crew take their own water bottles off the plane.
Oh we also take discarded pax newspapers and magazines...
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Update
Any more news on what is happening with the great debate regarding the 'muffin' as all has gone quiet.
Maybe they are concentrating on more concerning matters such as the recent events at LHR which of course makes more sense compared to a 'muffin'.
Let us know if any news,
Happy flying especially in these terrible winds.....
Maybe they are concentrating on more concerning matters such as the recent events at LHR which of course makes more sense compared to a 'muffin'.
Let us know if any news,
Happy flying especially in these terrible winds.....
