Hellas Jet operates with 3 cabin crew
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Hellas Jet operates with 3 cabin crew
An HELLAS JET AIRCRAFT OPERATING FOR OLYMPIC AIRWAYS DEPARTS WITH 3 CABIN CREW AGAINST REGULATIONS. PIC IS THE COMPANY CHIEF PILOT.ANYONE WITH MORE INFO ABOUT THAT?
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No its not !
There are clear regulations that allow the number of cabin crew to be reduced by one (only) to get back to a cabin crew base. They would have had to reduce the number of used seats by an amount (type specific)
There are clear regulations that allow the number of cabin crew to be reduced by one (only) to get back to a cabin crew base. They would have had to reduce the number of used seats by an amount (type specific)
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As far as Iam aware you can operate below minimum crew only as long as pax numbers do not excede 1 crew member per 50 pax.
So if Hellas aircraft can seat 168 and went with 3 crew they could only have carried a maximum of 150
So if Hellas aircraft can seat 168 and went with 3 crew they could only have carried a maximum of 150
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From: EGGW
Where do you get that figure of one per door airseb?
So on a B757 or A321 with 6 doors plus 2 emergency that makes it 6 cabin crew.
Hell l better tell my company we are in the Sh**.
I have always been told its 1 cabin crew member per 50 seats, hence the orange airline has 3 on B737s and 4 on A319s.
Please tell me if l have my facts wrong.
So on a B757 or A321 with 6 doors plus 2 emergency that makes it 6 cabin crew.
Hell l better tell my company we are in the Sh**.
I have always been told its 1 cabin crew member per 50 seats, hence the orange airline has 3 on B737s and 4 on A319s.
Please tell me if l have my facts wrong.
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IEM OPS 1.990. Number and Composition of Cabin Crew. See JAR-OPS 1.990.
1. The Authority may require an increased number of cabin crew members in excess of the requirements of JAR-OPS 1.990 on certain types of aeroplane or operations. Factors which should be taken into account include:
a. The number of exits;
b. The type of exits and their associated slides;
c. The location of exits in relation to cabin crew seats and the cabin layout;
d. The location of cabin crew seats taking into account cabin crew duties in an emergency evacuation including:
i. Opening floor level exits and initiating stair or slide deployment;
ii. Assisting passengers to pass through exits; and
iii. Directing passengers away from inoperative exits, crowd control and passenger flow management;
e. Actions required to be performed by cabin crew in ditchings, including the deployment of slide-rafts and the launching of life-rafts.
2. When the number of cabin crew is reduced below the minimum required by JAR - OPS 1.990, for example in the event of incapacitation or non-availability of cabin crew, the procedures to be specified in the Operations Manual should result in consideration being given to at least the following:
a. Reduction of passenger numbers;
b. Re-seating of passengers with due regard to exits and other applicable aeroplane limitations; and
c. Relocation of cabin crew and any change of procedures.
1. The Authority may require an increased number of cabin crew members in excess of the requirements of JAR-OPS 1.990 on certain types of aeroplane or operations. Factors which should be taken into account include:
a. The number of exits;
b. The type of exits and their associated slides;
c. The location of exits in relation to cabin crew seats and the cabin layout;
d. The location of cabin crew seats taking into account cabin crew duties in an emergency evacuation including:
i. Opening floor level exits and initiating stair or slide deployment;
ii. Assisting passengers to pass through exits; and
iii. Directing passengers away from inoperative exits, crowd control and passenger flow management;
e. Actions required to be performed by cabin crew in ditchings, including the deployment of slide-rafts and the launching of life-rafts.
2. When the number of cabin crew is reduced below the minimum required by JAR - OPS 1.990, for example in the event of incapacitation or non-availability of cabin crew, the procedures to be specified in the Operations Manual should result in consideration being given to at least the following:
a. Reduction of passenger numbers;
b. Re-seating of passengers with due regard to exits and other applicable aeroplane limitations; and
c. Relocation of cabin crew and any change of procedures.
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JAR-OPS 1.990 Subpart O says that in unforseen circumstances the minimum number of cabin crew may be reduced as long as the number of pax has also been reduced.
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From: EGGW
We had this discussion years back when Easyjet brought the A319, with the extra seating.
The B737 operates with minimum 3 cabin crew due 149 pax seats, A319 operates with minimum 4 cabin crew due 156 seats.
Discussion was only 7 more pax for one extra crew member, told that no problem you can still operate with 3 crew member by keeping loads below 151.
This was a no no because it is seats fitted not bums on seats that counts, only relaying which was posted a few years back.
The B737 operates with minimum 3 cabin crew due 149 pax seats, A319 operates with minimum 4 cabin crew due 156 seats.
Discussion was only 7 more pax for one extra crew member, told that no problem you can still operate with 3 crew member by keeping loads below 151.
This was a no no because it is seats fitted not bums on seats that counts, only relaying which was posted a few years back.
