How Far Do You Go With The "Captain"?
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How Far Do You Go With The "Captain"?
Im a freight Dog Pilot and I consider myself only to be a "Captain" when I have an aircraft strapped to me and a crew to lead. Hence I know nothing about the world of passenger flying. Do CC address the "Pilot" as "Captain" when out of the aircraft, out of uniform and maybe in a hotel? If so then how do you address the first officer and the flight engineer?
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In front of a passenger, I would address him or her as Captain "Smith" or whatever. Other than that, it's always been first names really. I've never come across a pilot that has been asked to be called anything but that. I think the fact that at BA, they introduce themselves when boarding the aircraft and making the effort to walk all the way back to Doors 4 to say hello shows that they don't want any "barriers" as such. It may well be different on other airlines, particularly those in the Far East.
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I find "Sir" is sufficient
Back in the real world I use first names with all of the crew and expect the crew to do likewise with me. And I regularly take a stroll back to the L/R4 doors to say hi on boarding and have a bit of banter before I get locked away in my box for 8 or 10 hours.
Possible cultural differences in the Far East and Middle East may dictate C/C having to use the term "Captain". I know that first Officers in a large Dubai based airline are known as 'an yoo's' as in "would you like a drink Captain..........? An yoo?" (whilst looking with disdain at the poor F/O)
Back in the real world I use first names with all of the crew and expect the crew to do likewise with me. And I regularly take a stroll back to the L/R4 doors to say hi on boarding and have a bit of banter before I get locked away in my box for 8 or 10 hours.
Possible cultural differences in the Far East and Middle East may dictate C/C having to use the term "Captain". I know that first Officers in a large Dubai based airline are known as 'an yoo's' as in "would you like a drink Captain..........? An yoo?" (whilst looking with disdain at the poor F/O)
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Air India
I know in Air India they show the captain a lot of respect and at all times in uniform call him/her captain. I used to work at Birmingham Airport BHX and when the pilots entered the gate room prior to the passengers boarding, the cabin crew would all get up to greet the pilots. The men would shake hands with the male pilots, the ladies would shake hands with the female pilots, if you were of the opposite sex you would say good morning/afternoon and just nod your head.
They have a really conservative method in India. At Air India, even the First Officer is referred to as captain, and on the General Declaration (GD), he/she is listed as F/O Capt. Mickey Mouse. The same rules as above also apply to the F/O.
They have a really conservative method in India. At Air India, even the First Officer is referred to as captain, and on the General Declaration (GD), he/she is listed as F/O Capt. Mickey Mouse. The same rules as above also apply to the F/O.
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Nothing else than the first name ever occurred to me
I never considered calling the guys up front "Captain" or "Sir"
What about CRM - Crew Resource Management" and being approachable?
I've heard that Air France puts pilots in five star hotels and CC in four star hotels...
As we save on crew cups I once wrote CP and FO their coffee, my colleague gave the Captain the cup which said FO on it, and he joked: I'm not a **** Off!
I never considered calling the guys up front "Captain" or "Sir"
What about CRM - Crew Resource Management" and being approachable?
I've heard that Air France puts pilots in five star hotels and CC in four star hotels...
As we save on crew cups I once wrote CP and FO their coffee, my colleague gave the Captain the cup which said FO on it, and he joked: I'm not a **** Off!
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i refer to them as captain or fo, as i cant generaly remember their names, sometimes ill call them nigel if im pissed|!!
if i could remember thier names i certainly wouldnt refer to them as "captain" out of uniform or in the hotel this isnt the 1960s anymore!
if i could remember thier names i certainly wouldnt refer to them as "captain" out of uniform or in the hotel this isnt the 1960s anymore!
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I think that you may be misunderstanding what CRM actually means.
Whose your.....captain? first officer? cabin crew?
Being on first name terms is always a good start to the day
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I call them "sweetie"... but I am older than they are. In front of passengers I call them by their first name. Never call them Captain. They would laugh at me if I called them sir.
I was on an SQ flight a couple of weeks ago (SLF chipping in here, but bear with me), and the pilot came on the PA with the pre-flight welcome address. I swear I am not making this up, but he introduced himself as "Captain KP Tan". Clearly his parents were very foresighted.
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Captain Kyrke
When 'Star Trek' was a major TV show, I used to fly with a Birmingham based 1-11 Captain called Dick Kyrke. a super guy who used to always be able to lift passengers heads from their papers with his " Captain Kirk here" welcome p/a at the start of his flights.
Dick is retired now, a great pilot and a genuine friendly team player; in the old days when all Captains were 'Sir' and many would get very uppity when anyone dared to use their first name, he was always first to offer his hand and a " please call me Dick" when you flew with him.
Safe Flying
Dick is retired now, a great pilot and a genuine friendly team player; in the old days when all Captains were 'Sir' and many would get very uppity when anyone dared to use their first name, he was always first to offer his hand and a " please call me Dick" when you flew with him.
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I was talking to a guy at NZ and its all First name basis down here, in or out of uniform. Even in the PAs, some of air NZ guys say sometrhing along the lines of "Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, Joe Bloggs here from the flight deck", bypassing the traditional "this is your captain speaking"
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Soggy blonde.
Comments like that proove that you deserve to be nowhere near an aircraft.Wiping crew meals round the toilet bowl beggars belief and could make the flight crew seriously ill.A double crew incapacition!!!.Who would save you then so that you can make more idiotic comments.
In fact i find this comment so unbeleivable that i feel a moderator should step in with a private message to you,that posts like this are unacceptable.
Comments like that proove that you deserve to be nowhere near an aircraft.Wiping crew meals round the toilet bowl beggars belief and could make the flight crew seriously ill.A double crew incapacition!!!.Who would save you then so that you can make more idiotic comments.
In fact i find this comment so unbeleivable that i feel a moderator should step in with a private message to you,that posts like this are unacceptable.
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Watch out Gulf Air crews! You have one poisonous male western CC working down there that should not be allowed anywhere near a plane!