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Thanks to All
with all due respect to everyone in here, and please dont bite my head off.....
in regard to other ME carriers whilst employed by QR, i have two friends one CM one FA who have just started working for EY whilst still being employed at QR. They had no problems getting the job at EY and the recruiter actually said it was good to have the experience from another ME carrier.
so i thinkit comes down to right timing, right place.
thanks to you all for the information. Every employer has good and bad things going on all the time.The aviation industry is like that wherever you go. It has given me ALOT to think about.
Cheers
in regard to other ME carriers whilst employed by QR, i have two friends one CM one FA who have just started working for EY whilst still being employed at QR. They had no problems getting the job at EY and the recruiter actually said it was good to have the experience from another ME carrier.
so i thinkit comes down to right timing, right place.
thanks to you all for the information. Every employer has good and bad things going on all the time.The aviation industry is like that wherever you go. It has given me ALOT to think about.
Cheers
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I did hear a rumour recently about applying to EY so maybe it's true. The best advice I can give is give it a go if it's what you want, the worst outcome is if your unsucessful and then at least you know you have tried your best. Going back to the earlier post on staff jumpseating I actually heard this from an EK staff member a few weeks back and did wonder if this rule would be introduced.
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I have quite a few close friends working as CC with QR.One of the main problems with QR (among many) is the lack of consistency. Al Baker can change SOPs and regulations from one second to the next and he has millions of times. First of all when he sent the internal memo about the 10 pm curfew of staff being back in their accomodation regardles of wheter they were flying the next day or not (even if the were on leave they had to be back at 10 pm). Now due to so many people resigning after this memo was published he has gone ahead and changed it to you have to be home 12 hours minimum before your next flight ( any minute later and your reported) and you are not allowed outside of your company provided acommodation during your standby slot. I know from my South African CC friends that they never ( or very very seldom) get flights to SA because there has been a few cases of Crew doing a runner on a layover because they are so depressed and also in order to avoid having to pay the 7 500 Riyal bond.I know about 10 QR CC and out of the 10, 5 have resigned and 3 are not gonna renew their contract.
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Nothing new with national crew not getting, or rarely getting, flights to their home countries! I rarely flew to Europe. This has also been a great issue with QR about their crew jumping ship. It does save you a lot of hassle rather than resigning in DOH and going through what could be a painful procedure. I never experienced any trouble myself except the comment from a certain manager: "Not to worry. We were looking into getting rid of certain cabin crew members."
Not sure whether the poaching rule still excists! If it's gone, that's fantastic but I would advise all people to try EK and EY first because it will save you a lot of trouble. Working with QR could put you off flying but it will probably also be a great relief moving onto EK or EY and experience a more relaxed enviroment.
Something many of my batch mates and myself noticed: QR literally becomes your life!
Not sure whether the poaching rule still excists! If it's gone, that's fantastic but I would advise all people to try EK and EY first because it will save you a lot of trouble. Working with QR could put you off flying but it will probably also be a great relief moving onto EK or EY and experience a more relaxed enviroment.
Something many of my batch mates and myself noticed: QR literally becomes your life!
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Something positive
Ok guys, the new accomodation here are really huge and nice okay. The kitchen even has a washing machine dryer and a dish washer. At times during training, we used to gather at each other's apartment to cook, slack around and even have mini parties.
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InTheZone:..may be wrong, but the creation of the curfew, and installation of cameras at the cc accomodation may be the result of a rape of one cabin crew(still in the hospital), by one Qatari guys and his friends..(hi- ranking)...But Shuuuuuut in this part of the world all the bad think have to be kept very quiet in order to save and preserve the image of the country....
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Something positive - Part 2
...and soooon everybody in the Golden Tower will be watching you on tv - via the hichtech surveilence system - while you're enjoying your mini-funny-parties and maybe closely examining what exactly you're cooking in the confort of your roomy,shining kitchen(with all the modern accesories). Also making sure that nobody gets raped,ok!!!
Come on.....
Come on.....
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As far as i know the whole curfew and surveillence extraveganza is due to the rumor that QR crew are having too much "fun" in and around Doha and some crew have supposedly been providing other forms of
"5 star" services on the side in exchange for money (if you catch my drift ;-). This allegation has no basis in reality, even if it is the case that a few individuals are doing that you cannot collectivley punish your entire workforce based on the actions of a few.The whole grasp of control on crews lives from the moment they are debriefed till the report for their next flight has got nothing to do with Al Bakers "concern" for the safety of his crew.I know from my QR CC friends that Al Baker is known to have personally fired people on numerous occasions for the slightest of mistakes such as a CC who was fired because the little oryx on her hat fell off and she bent down to pick it up and unlucky for her Al Baker saw it and fired her demming her "careless" in his words. He is known to send people home on his inaugural flights if he doesnt like your apperance. A friend of mine flew the Inagural flight to IAD (Washington DC) and she told me Al Baker actually told two girls crewing the flight to go home as he inspected the crew that day and called on rostering to get him 2 new "pretty girls". These are not rumours, they have actually happened and DO happen at QR. Even though i understand that alot of people have no choice but to keep on working for QR and for some their job at QR is much better than what they can get at home in order to support their families, I personally,would NEVER degrade myself and put myself in a job where i would be treated like numbered cattle.
As far as i know the whole curfew and surveillence extraveganza is due to the rumor that QR crew are having too much "fun" in and around Doha and some crew have supposedly been providing other forms of
"5 star" services on the side in exchange for money (if you catch my drift ;-). This allegation has no basis in reality, even if it is the case that a few individuals are doing that you cannot collectivley punish your entire workforce based on the actions of a few.The whole grasp of control on crews lives from the moment they are debriefed till the report for their next flight has got nothing to do with Al Bakers "concern" for the safety of his crew.I know from my QR CC friends that Al Baker is known to have personally fired people on numerous occasions for the slightest of mistakes such as a CC who was fired because the little oryx on her hat fell off and she bent down to pick it up and unlucky for her Al Baker saw it and fired her demming her "careless" in his words. He is known to send people home on his inaugural flights if he doesnt like your apperance. A friend of mine flew the Inagural flight to IAD (Washington DC) and she told me Al Baker actually told two girls crewing the flight to go home as he inspected the crew that day and called on rostering to get him 2 new "pretty girls". These are not rumours, they have actually happened and DO happen at QR. Even though i understand that alot of people have no choice but to keep on working for QR and for some their job at QR is much better than what they can get at home in order to support their families, I personally,would NEVER degrade myself and put myself in a job where i would be treated like numbered cattle.
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Well the fact that some cabin crew are making "overtime""by providing extra personnal 5 stars service.... is not new, and is just another evidence of the kind of desperated girl Q.A. is only able to recruit.
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I highly doubt QR bans their crew from going out entirely because of some crew members providing another form of service. By all means it is a reasonable excuse which would make sense in some people's ears, but the main reason is probably to keep crew from having too much fun as in partying and not coming home until late.
And, for AAB personally sacking crew on inauguration flights. It doesn't only happen there! He personally sacks crew in DOH, or wherever else he would be. Place doesn't really matter! I did a couple of inauguration flights and I remember after one a small meeting which included the entire crew and him! Not the nicest words came out of his mouth!
I still strongly feel for all of those who have no other choice but to be there! Life is not always fair!
And, for AAB personally sacking crew on inauguration flights. It doesn't only happen there! He personally sacks crew in DOH, or wherever else he would be. Place doesn't really matter! I did a couple of inauguration flights and I remember after one a small meeting which included the entire crew and him! Not the nicest words came out of his mouth!
I still strongly feel for all of those who have no other choice but to be there! Life is not always fair!
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Well, at KLM we have flight attendants living all over the world: London, Nice, Oslo, New York, Toronto and Aruba. I am sure this is not allowed when working at Qatar Airways!
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Cliff,
Might be the case with many airlines around the world,including KLM,however thats not the case with middle east carriers.You have to be based and live in hub of the airline.
Might be the case with many airlines around the world,including KLM,however thats not the case with middle east carriers.You have to be based and live in hub of the airline.
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Another good thing about Qatar Airways and Qatar
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I like the new 777-300ER of Qatar Airways and the new paintkit of its fleet!!!! Very nice done! What I also like about Qatar is the construction of the new luxury resort called "The Pearl" I think that Qatar is really progressing and the other good thing is also the New Doha International Airport which is sheduled to open its services in mid 2009! Qatar Airways, we see you are giving your best but nothing for your crew which works to hard to remain the service standards! Recently I checked the website of skytrax and Qatar Airways was really good rated in accordance to Emirates and Etihad who were rated not as nice as Qatar was
I like the new 777-300ER of Qatar Airways and the new paintkit of its fleet!!!! Very nice done! What I also like about Qatar is the construction of the new luxury resort called "The Pearl" I think that Qatar is really progressing and the other good thing is also the New Doha International Airport which is sheduled to open its services in mid 2009! Qatar Airways, we see you are giving your best but nothing for your crew which works to hard to remain the service standards! Recently I checked the website of skytrax and Qatar Airways was really good rated in accordance to Emirates and Etihad who were rated not as nice as Qatar was
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hello to everybody !
I used to work for the 5 star airlines, which is not true, and what i advice to the new people who are interested in working with the company, is to step back from the AAB mafia. there is no human rights and they will never exist with qr. u can have a laugh one day and regret joining qr the next day while u r packing back to home because of a small and silly mistake. i know that many joiners are childish and unware of the right meaning of responsibility; BUT that's what qr wants, it's not their fault. they want people to get scared and unsecured because it's easy to get rid of. i am happy now.
KARMA exists and AAB and his mafia will get it ... and very bad ... there are many actually so GOd is watching !
I used to work for the 5 star airlines, which is not true, and what i advice to the new people who are interested in working with the company, is to step back from the AAB mafia. there is no human rights and they will never exist with qr. u can have a laugh one day and regret joining qr the next day while u r packing back to home because of a small and silly mistake. i know that many joiners are childish and unware of the right meaning of responsibility; BUT that's what qr wants, it's not their fault. they want people to get scared and unsecured because it's easy to get rid of. i am happy now.
KARMA exists and AAB and his mafia will get it ... and very bad ... there are many actually so GOd is watching !