British Airways - Crew Discussions II

[VS-LHRCSA]

BA have in the past given re-deployed people permanent places at WW LHR. An example that comes to mind is when the BFS base was closed. They were offered WW LHR as there was nowhere else for them to go at the time. As far as I know, those who took it are still there. This was around 2002/3 and they were already cabin crew, so that may have made a difference.

So have the rules changed or is this just a sneaky way of getting rid of staff without having to pay redundancy?

[GODDESS OF DAWN]

Hi Jarvis!

Good to hear from u again.

Hmm .... interesting, because we coincided with some re-deployed staff from MAN at the assessment and we were all clearly told at the presentation that LHRWW was temporary and no guarantee of further employment.

Personally I hope that all BA re-deployed staff who chose the temporary contract will be offered a permanent contract after the 11 months.... after all thats happened its the least BA could do for its loyal staff.

Jarvis keep in touch......

All the best for your course.

DAWN

[SuperBoy]

Twrecks,

The 154 I refer too is the external candidates that were recruited into LHR EF. Not the redployment of staff ,11 months WW Temps. That figure would be 220 internal candidates plus the sixty external temp candidates.

You do not need to question these figures as they are freely available on the BA crew forum. Just search for posts by STS.

[Tiiiger]

Hotline tickets, how much reduced are they?

[VS-LHRCSA]

They're not too bad. Sometimes you can find internet fares that are actually cheaper. The good thing about hotline is that they are available reasonably close to departure, unlike the cheap internet fares. It is however difficult to get them during peak periods on popular routes. For example, hotline tickets to SYD are rarely available. They are also non-refundable and dates are fixed, just like LCC.

[747-436]

I have heard that BA are very short of WW crew at the moment and are having to operate some flights out empty with no passengers just carrying freight!

[lhrtolgw]

Shortage of crew

This is a temporary problem which has occurred because of a cross -over in the large number of part-time crew being off at the same time.

[dudley1]

Help neeed!

My wife Chrissie is due to retire this month thanks to early severance and her last operating flight is the BA069 (PHL) on the 21st Oct back on the 24th. She is then due out to CPT that evening (BA059) on a full fare to join me!

I wondered if any of you knows someone on there who who might just give her a bit of a mention as a surprise as sadly I can't be there??

Much appreciated

Mr Dudley1

[b77]

i hope the rosters will come out tonight

[the letter]

Is it possible to get a language flag on your name badge? I was told by someone it's no longer possible to get it!

[SuperBoy]

You can get the flag you just no longer get paid for it.

[jitensha]

Transfer LGW to LHR

Hello,

I'm a new recruit to BA, but unfortunately I will be based at LGW. And as I will commute to and from Paris, this is not that convenient. Any ideas on how long I can be transferred to LHR? Any opinion/experience appreciated.

Thanks!

[Matt101]

I assure you there is nothing unfortunate about Gatwick - nobody can give you a definitive answer on transfer time to LHR from LGW.
The plan was to have a formal system of transfer in place by now but that time has come and gone due to poor TU relations at the moment with BASSA. If what we hope for is put in place soon then transfers were estimated at 2 - 3 years however the old system which is still in place can take up to 7 years.
Either way I would suggest making yourself comfortable for the forseable future. I promise you'll enjoy it and as you're new you'll probably end up with the best rosters!
As long as you don't waste money the wage is very livable despite what people say - I get by fine on a Main Crew Salary - you just have to work for it and sometimes that means doing harder destinations and not bidding for BGI all the time!

[Flower Duet.]

Why don't you move to the UK, and out of interest did you apply for
LGWSF ?

As I did and I find your post rude and for one I'm excited about working for British Airways!! LGWSF

You should of said that at your interview, I'm sure they would of liked that

[jitensha]

This is not a question of being rude! Only that I did not know very well the complexity of transfers between LGW and LHR at the time of my application (it is unusual for me that crews are positioned according to a sole airport).

I called the HR recently about this but they only replied that would be able to have me transferred to LHR once they have vacancy. I would have thought that with Asian languages proficiency, you would have been positioned on flights requesting such skills.

For members based in LGW: how often are you rostered with a LH? Once every month? What is a typical LGW roster?

Many many thanks for your assistance!

[Hand Solo]

I would have thought that with Asian languages proficiency, you would have been positioned on flights requesting such skills.

If BA need language skills they hire international crew from the region in question and base them abroad.

[jitensha]

Alright. Thanks for your posts.

Could anyone post a LGW typical roster for information? Thanks.

[GODDESS OF DAWN]

Hi Jitensha - Re LGW Roster

Here is an example of a BA LGW Roster which I have copy pasted from another Forum.

Hope it helps.

WE 25 JUL REPORT AT 0630 LOCAL TIME LON
0630 BA2650 LGW KEF 0945 73D
1045 BA2651 KEF LGW 1350 73D 850
CLEAR TIME 1520 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 850
TH 26 JUL REPORT AT 0540 LOCAL TIME LON
0540 BA2902 LGW MAN 0640 73D
0715 BA2903 MAN LGW 0820 73D 410
CLEAR TIME 0950 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 410
FR 27 JUL REPORT AT 0945 LOCAL TIME LON
1005 BA2037 LGW MCO 1920 77D 1105
SA 28 JUL 2125 BA2036 MCO LGW 0530 77D 935
CLEAR TIME (SU 29 JUL) 0700 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 2040

MO 30 JUL OFF DUTY
TU 31 JUL OFF DUTY
WE 01 AUG STANDBY 1800 2200 LOCAL TIME LGW
TH 02 AUG STANDBY AT HOME 1530 2130 LOCAL TIME LGW
FR 03 AUG STANDBY 2100 2300 LOCAL TIME LGW
SA 04 AUG STANDBY AT HOME 1100 1600 LOCAL TIME LGW
SU 05 AUG OFF DUTY
MO 06 AUG OFF DUTY
TU 07 AUG REPORT AT 2130 LOCAL TIME LON
2130 BA2646 LGW TIA 0030 73D
WE 08 AUG 0225 BA2647 TIA LGW 0530 73D 930
CLEAR TIME 0700 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 930
REPORT AT 2055 LOCAL TIME LON
2055 BA2670 LGW ADB 0050 73D
TH 09 AUG 0140 BA2671 ADB LGW 0550 73D 1025
CLEAR TIME 0720 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 1025
FR 10 AUG OFF DUTY
SA 11 AUG REPORT AT 0945 LOCAL TIME LON
1005 BA2037 LGW MCO 1920 77D 1105
SU 12 AUG 2120 BA2036 MCO LGW 0525 77D 935
CLEAR TIME (MO 13 AUG) 0655 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 2040

TU 14 AUG OFF DUTY
WE 15 AUG OFF DUTY
TH 16 AUG REPORT AT 0945 LOCAL TIME LON
1005 BA2037 LGW MCO 1920 77D 1105
FR 17 AUG 2120 BA2036 MCO LGW 0525 77D 935
CLEAR TIME (SA 18 AUG) 0655 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 2040


SU 19 AUG OFF DUTY
MO 20 AUG OFF DUTY
TU 21 AUG REPORT AT 0700 LOCAL TIME LON
0700 BA2542 LGW FCO 0935 73G
1020 BA2543 FCO LGW 1255 73G
1410 BA2738 LGW GVA 1545 735 1015
WE 22 AUG 0520 BA2735 GVA LGW 0700 735
0825 BA8113 LGW AMS 0940 735 550
TH 23 AUG 0500 BA8110 AMS LGW 0610 735
0800 BA2464 LGW MAD 1025 73D
1110 BA2465 MAD LGW 1335 73D 1005
CLEAR TIME 1505 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 2610
FR 24 AUG REPORT AT 0945 LOCAL TIME LON
1005 BA2037 LGW MCO 1920 77D 1105
SA 25 AUG 2125 BA2036 MCO LGW 0530 77D 935
CLEAR TIME (SU 26 AUG) 0700 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 2040

MO 27 AUG OFF DUTY
TU 28 AUG OFF DUTY
WE 29 AUG REPORT AT 1740 LOCAL TIME LON
1740 BA2586 LGW VCE 1945 73D
2030 BA2587 VCE LGW 2235 73D 625
CLEAR TIME (TH 30 AUG) 0005 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 625
TH 30 AUG NON-OP 1400 LOCAL TIME LGW
FR 31 AUG REPORT AT 0505 LOCAL TIME LON
0505 BA2362 LGW MRS 0655 73D
0730 BA2363 MRS LGW 0920 73D 545
CLEAR TIME 1050 LOCAL TIME LON
------------------- TOTAL DUTY HOURS 545

[DC-10]

Just looked at the roster above and thought oh my god how vile then realised it is mine - thought it seemed familiar !

That was my first couple of rosters and although it looks like a nightmare it wasn't that bad. I hadn't bidded as I was new and I do love Orlando which helps!

My last two rosters have been much better probably as I had a good teacher to show me how to bid properly. In October I had two 4 day Barbados trips, 2 Bermudas and a couple of Manchester nightstops. November I have one double, one there and back, standby for 5 days, 2 Bermudas and a Glasgow nightstop.

So in fairness the example shown wasn't one of the best although I have seen far worse!

[Matt101]

Yeah was about to add this - what a horrible looking roster! - I tend to get 4 Long Haul's at least a month then a couple of euro tours a there and back or a double and some standby.

This month I have 5 Longhauls and 3 there and backs that's it. Next month 4 long hauls and 1 there and back.
It's swings and roundabouts.

The reason we don't dual base and you will only fly form Gatwick is because of a difference in terms and conditions we could not fly in and ou of the other base as it would dilute their lucrative terms - terms we wish to see preserved for a time when we do eventually transfer to LHR!

But I commute from further than paris (travel time wise) it's pretty easy.

As mentioned before our International crew are hired and based abroad. Your more likely to get a transfer to LHR by offering your body than your skills That was a joke please don't actualy try that.... seriously.