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Well i guess that turning up after the start time for the open day wouldnt be a smart move!!!! seriously tho if your coming in from the land of sand for the job, please dont be fooled by the BA bit at the start of the name you will NOT be joining BA mainline, but a subsidary company on Terms and Conditions far removed from anything that mainline offer!
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Can anyone from flybe give us any idea what it's really like to fly for them? We hear masses of rumours about crewing being cack and changing rosters at short notice. The 'new' scheduling agreement has a dispuption clause that allows you to refuse if less than 48 hours before check in time ,which should help. Do you get put back on standby after flights? How often do you nightstop away from base? What are 50% and 70% rosters etc.
I'm at Brum, whats the management team like there? Our PM's are OK, some old, some new, all approachable.
I'm at Brum, whats the management team like there? Our PM's are OK, some old, some new, all approachable.
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well guess I can answer that for you.
Roster stability is not very good. I think its mainly due to staffing levels. To be honest BHX just dosn't lose crew but other bases are always recruiting. This means that us Brummies night stop... ALOT
For example I had standby this weekend on Sat and Sun. Checked in on Monday for my 'changed' flight and am now nightstopping in Belfast.
In all honesty I dont blame crewing for the disruption we get. At the end of the day they have to put crew on aircraft and we are definately short in several areas.
As I said stability is an issue and even after checking in for a flight you may not complete the same sectors as planned. Again on Monday I checked in for a double belfast but after the first two sectors we were told that we had to go to scotland. One aircraft went tech and we went to glasgow via edinburgh and back. Were supposed to be finished at about 21:30 but I left the crew room just before 23:00.
Standbys after a duty are common particularly in winter. Usually the BHD/GLA/EDI earlies will have 2 hours airport standby when we land. The good thing is that if the other aircraft are running ok we are allowed to head home instead of sitting in the terminal.
How much do we fly? Well Feb's roster came out and I had one nightstop in Jersey but so far have also stayed in Edinburgh for 2 nights and have Belfast this weekend. This month I am doing 61 sectors which is fairly average. We work different patterns. Usually 5 on 2 off but you will also get at least one 6 - 3 and occasionally you will do 4 - 1 - 4 which is a bit tiring but that happens very rarely.
Now it may not sound great but what with you loveley BA people coming over we have been assured that stability will improve for all crew. Also as you say there is a new scheduling agreement coming up which we haven't seen yet but are promised is better than current conditions.
This may not answer everything but if anyone has any more questions then just ask!
Roster stability is not very good. I think its mainly due to staffing levels. To be honest BHX just dosn't lose crew but other bases are always recruiting. This means that us Brummies night stop... ALOT
For example I had standby this weekend on Sat and Sun. Checked in on Monday for my 'changed' flight and am now nightstopping in Belfast.
In all honesty I dont blame crewing for the disruption we get. At the end of the day they have to put crew on aircraft and we are definately short in several areas.
As I said stability is an issue and even after checking in for a flight you may not complete the same sectors as planned. Again on Monday I checked in for a double belfast but after the first two sectors we were told that we had to go to scotland. One aircraft went tech and we went to glasgow via edinburgh and back. Were supposed to be finished at about 21:30 but I left the crew room just before 23:00.
Standbys after a duty are common particularly in winter. Usually the BHD/GLA/EDI earlies will have 2 hours airport standby when we land. The good thing is that if the other aircraft are running ok we are allowed to head home instead of sitting in the terminal.
How much do we fly? Well Feb's roster came out and I had one nightstop in Jersey but so far have also stayed in Edinburgh for 2 nights and have Belfast this weekend. This month I am doing 61 sectors which is fairly average. We work different patterns. Usually 5 on 2 off but you will also get at least one 6 - 3 and occasionally you will do 4 - 1 - 4 which is a bit tiring but that happens very rarely.
Now it may not sound great but what with you loveley BA people coming over we have been assured that stability will improve for all crew. Also as you say there is a new scheduling agreement coming up which we haven't seen yet but are promised is better than current conditions.
This may not answer everything but if anyone has any more questions then just ask!
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oh also the managers are really nice at BHX. We have two of them and they are always ready to listen and help with any issues that we have so don't worry about that. Plus (and i am probably biased) but we have great crew at BHX. Everyone gets along and you are guaranteed a laugh every day which makes even hard duties go much smoother.
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Doesnt sound atrocious....doesnt even sound bad.in fact,im feeling quite positive.Just had my uniform fitting and its not as bad on as it looks off.starting to look forward to it now,although i will miss some of my friends,and also the RJ's,who will be moving on to cityflyer,back to mainline,or new ventures.
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Sounds OK.................
TeaAnyone21,
Sounds OK??
I have met a couple of your crew on the bus, though some of you seem to avoid eye contact! I am pleased to hear you are a friendly bunch, we in BHX have a reputation as being the friendliest base in the region, p'raps its just us Brummies being nicer than the rest of the UK? (Just kidding folks!)
Suprised you have not seen the new agreement, it has floated around our crew room for a coupla weeks now, sadly I don't have a copy as I think it was for info until we join up. Our TU rep Emma used to work for you before and she has done a great job in getting an agreement which is very nearly what we operate to now.
Do you have info about your part time rosters? I look forward to eventually, once the SOP stuff is sorted and we get re-licenced, flying with all you lovely flybe guys n gals!
PS: Roll on the new uniform which we hear is due next year, don't think my old eyes can take too much red!
PPS: I can reassure everyone that us ex BACON crew are not stuck up or snobby!
Sounds OK??
I have met a couple of your crew on the bus, though some of you seem to avoid eye contact! I am pleased to hear you are a friendly bunch, we in BHX have a reputation as being the friendliest base in the region, p'raps its just us Brummies being nicer than the rest of the UK? (Just kidding folks!)
Suprised you have not seen the new agreement, it has floated around our crew room for a coupla weeks now, sadly I don't have a copy as I think it was for info until we join up. Our TU rep Emma used to work for you before and she has done a great job in getting an agreement which is very nearly what we operate to now.
Do you have info about your part time rosters? I look forward to eventually, once the SOP stuff is sorted and we get re-licenced, flying with all you lovely flybe guys n gals!
PS: Roll on the new uniform which we hear is due next year, don't think my old eyes can take too much red!
PPS: I can reassure everyone that us ex BACON crew are not stuck up or snobby!
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see this is whats good everyone getting excited!!!
Sorry on behalf of anyone who seemed to be avoiding eye contact on the bus. We have had a few not so nice comments from some individuals and as you know everyone keeps to their crew most of the time anyway.
oh and NEW UNIFORM?? How do you guys know more than us. Cant wait if its true.
As I am full time I dont pay attention to the part time roster really but I know that some of the girls are on a 5 on 5 off roster. Availability is fairly none existant right now to go part time or 70% but again with the merged crews I am sure it will not be a problem. Obviously anyone who is already part time should get that honoured but not sure as I just serve the tea.
Sorry on behalf of anyone who seemed to be avoiding eye contact on the bus. We have had a few not so nice comments from some individuals and as you know everyone keeps to their crew most of the time anyway.
oh and NEW UNIFORM?? How do you guys know more than us. Cant wait if its true.
As I am full time I dont pay attention to the part time roster really but I know that some of the girls are on a 5 on 5 off roster. Availability is fairly none existant right now to go part time or 70% but again with the merged crews I am sure it will not be a problem. Obviously anyone who is already part time should get that honoured but not sure as I just serve the tea.
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Nice to hear some positive comments for a change! So looking forward to starting my training sometime soon....PLEASE!! Has anyone heard anything about training dates for March or April?
AND a new uniform as well? I so hope the double breasted jacket goes, its like a reject out of Howards Way!
AND a new uniform as well? I so hope the double breasted jacket goes, its like a reject out of Howards Way!
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uniform fittings
Well, here at Brum uniform fittings have started, the 'uniform' PM is running around encouraging all to try on stuff! Must be happening then!
Still no idea about part time rosters, any flybe posters out there with this info please???
Still no idea about part time rosters, any flybe posters out there with this info please???
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tiggerific,
Its in the flybe thread in cabincrew.com 'forum' section. Basically its a 'friend' of a stewardess who works in 'head office' saying she had heard it was a rumour and like a good confidential employee had wacked it onto the wwweb!
Its in the flybe thread in cabincrew.com 'forum' section. Basically its a 'friend' of a stewardess who works in 'head office' saying she had heard it was a rumour and like a good confidential employee had wacked it onto the wwweb!
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Hi BACON/Flybe guys
finding this thread very interesting, Being an ex Jersey European/British European and Flybe guy I still like to catch up on goss with Flybe, and it helps still having friends in Flybe. So when news surfaced about Flybe/Bacon merger I was most suprised yet intrigued. From starting with flybe in the good old Jersey European days I saw a hell of alot change through BE to flybe, so now the merger has come up it is yet another juicy story.
Anyway just wanted to say to both Flybe and BACON guys I hope all goes well for you all and everything goes reletively smoothly, though if flybe ops, crewwing, management ect has not changed much in 2 years it could make for a interesting initial few months (NO OFFENCE to flybe crewing i got on with them very well and undewrstood the crap they had to deal with).
I will be interested to know what the story is with the BACON Flt Deck, Are they happy with the merger? or are the running?
Oh and Flybe guys what is the story with you lot operating on a/c types? you guys just sticking with dash and 146 or are you conversion training for BACON's fleet?
To this comment I am sure you meant no offence to easyjet (Thats where Iam living now) But to be fair its no where near as bad as you think. In fairness I belive many airlines (apart from the big boys) are now getting crew to do cabin tidies ect as it is a massive cost saver and I would not be suprised id City Flyer will be the same. End of that I could easily rabbit on about easyjet life but thats another story
Godd Luck with everything Flybe/BACON
finding this thread very interesting, Being an ex Jersey European/British European and Flybe guy I still like to catch up on goss with Flybe, and it helps still having friends in Flybe. So when news surfaced about Flybe/Bacon merger I was most suprised yet intrigued. From starting with flybe in the good old Jersey European days I saw a hell of alot change through BE to flybe, so now the merger has come up it is yet another juicy story.
Anyway just wanted to say to both Flybe and BACON guys I hope all goes well for you all and everything goes reletively smoothly, though if flybe ops, crewwing, management ect has not changed much in 2 years it could make for a interesting initial few months (NO OFFENCE to flybe crewing i got on with them very well and undewrstood the crap they had to deal with).
I will be interested to know what the story is with the BACON Flt Deck, Are they happy with the merger? or are the running?
Oh and Flybe guys what is the story with you lot operating on a/c types? you guys just sticking with dash and 146 or are you conversion training for BACON's fleet?
I have applied for City Flyer...has to be better than easyJet...no cabin 'tidies' or emptying loo bins?
Godd Luck with everything Flybe/BACON