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Everyone lets get a few things clear : BA Gatwick Fleet is not a franchise or subsidiary its Mainline and part of ACC NSP that was a condition in the new fleet setup !
Franchises are GB, BMED , Comair & Sunair
Subsidiary - BACONNECT
The only way a franchise will become a subsidiary is that BA buy them for example : Cityflyer was bought for £ 70 million by ba which became a subsidiary and then they merged with EOG (European Operations @ Gatwick ) another subsidiary to form Eurofleet LGW (mainline operation) and now the Gatwick Fleet - Mainline.
Re Slots at LGW BA Mainline hold more that GB which I believe are not doing well , but are making extra money as BA Connect !
Remember all European flights into both LGW & LHR still offer Club Europe / Euro traveller.
Franchises are GB, BMED , Comair & Sunair
Subsidiary - BACONNECT
The only way a franchise will become a subsidiary is that BA buy them for example : Cityflyer was bought for £ 70 million by ba which became a subsidiary and then they merged with EOG (European Operations @ Gatwick ) another subsidiary to form Eurofleet LGW (mainline operation) and now the Gatwick Fleet - Mainline.
Re Slots at LGW BA Mainline hold more that GB which I believe are not doing well , but are making extra money as BA Connect !
Remember all European flights into both LGW & LHR still offer Club Europe / Euro traveller.
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This does not however prevent BA from setting up BALGW Ltd at some point in the future, irrespective of your NSP status. Let us hope that this course is most unlikely and LGW continues profitably. It is most likely that the ramp/ check-in would be outsourced or switched to a limited company, in the future.
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BA COULD do what it wants to ANY area of it's business.
I've heard lots of rumours in the this business since I've been in it HZ123, as I'm sure you have.
Most of them as proved to be as true as "Elivs is alive and living on the moon!"
If you think that what you say is likely to be true, why not email Drew Crawley and ask him.
In the mean time I'll stick to "I'll believe it when I see it in writing".
I've heard lots of rumours in the this business since I've been in it HZ123, as I'm sure you have.
Most of them as proved to be as true as "Elivs is alive and living on the moon!"
If you think that what you say is likely to be true, why not email Drew Crawley and ask him.
In the mean time I'll stick to "I'll believe it when I see it in writing".
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Back to the thread
Guys,
Can we not go back to the thread?
All this has been answered and debated numerous times before.
The lady asked a simple question and we all start arguing again about the future of LGW, NSP, LHR, slots etc. Why not just direct the lady to the other threads already running on BMED and EFLGW, unless like WLITS, superboy and FBW, you have something to contribute to the thread.
YD
Can we not go back to the thread?
All this has been answered and debated numerous times before.
The lady asked a simple question and we all start arguing again about the future of LGW, NSP, LHR, slots etc. Why not just direct the lady to the other threads already running on BMED and EFLGW, unless like WLITS, superboy and FBW, you have something to contribute to the thread.
YD
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Superairhostess,
To add my 2cents worth. I'm with FBW and WLITS.
If you want to be away all the time and earn a bit more money then go to Bmed.
If you want to have a more varied career within an airline then stay where you are.
I was at a smaller BA franchise and was lucky enough to progress to SEP trainer, Line trainer and Purser very quickly. However that was it, I could go no further. I was happy doing those things and the same routes day in day out.
Then we merged and I was just a Purser at EUFLGW. But I was seeing much more of Europe, we had better conditions(mostly) and I could see a real career progression.
I know where I am happier even if I didn't realise it at the time.
Good luck in whatever you choose to do. You've only got one life and no decision you ever make is wrong.
YD
To add my 2cents worth. I'm with FBW and WLITS.
If you want to be away all the time and earn a bit more money then go to Bmed.
If you want to have a more varied career within an airline then stay where you are.
I was at a smaller BA franchise and was lucky enough to progress to SEP trainer, Line trainer and Purser very quickly. However that was it, I could go no further. I was happy doing those things and the same routes day in day out.
Then we merged and I was just a Purser at EUFLGW. But I was seeing much more of Europe, we had better conditions(mostly) and I could see a real career progression.
I know where I am happier even if I didn't realise it at the time.
Good luck in whatever you choose to do. You've only got one life and no decision you ever make is wrong.
YD
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Thank you Everybody
Very interesting to read all your different opinions.
Spent the last two days on the phone talking to every single person I know!
As Superboy said I'm the one who has to decide at the end of the day.Think I'm gonna call back Bmed to make sure I'm still on the waiting list for the next training course.By doing so I'll have time both to give a chance to BA and to attend the JAL interview on wednesday.I'll also get to see how Bmed financial situation is evolving as they're gonna make an announcement in December I've heard.
Believe it or not I'm been chasing Bmed for years( being rejected quite few times)but now that I'm with BA I can see the advantages of working for a big company.I'm now 24 years old and wether I'll have a family or not I know I don't want fly forever and I've got the desire of improving myself and doing different things in life.(Being Gemini I also like variety!)
Down the other side though nobody at BA can guarantee me anything regarding the pay and the roster getting better.When I attended the interview I went for a full time job with a full time pay and had been told I would have started doing longhaul straight from October.Well now I've been told by everybody that I have to wait til Feb.or March which either of them aren't exactly around the corner.
So...Hopefully if I get Jal I'll get ,LHR,longhaul and a decent salary straight away together with the advantages of a big company.If I don't at least I'll have some breathing space to think weather or not I want still being with BA.
Let me know what you think and thanks again for your cooperation.
Very interesting to read all your different opinions.
Spent the last two days on the phone talking to every single person I know!
As Superboy said I'm the one who has to decide at the end of the day.Think I'm gonna call back Bmed to make sure I'm still on the waiting list for the next training course.By doing so I'll have time both to give a chance to BA and to attend the JAL interview on wednesday.I'll also get to see how Bmed financial situation is evolving as they're gonna make an announcement in December I've heard.
Believe it or not I'm been chasing Bmed for years( being rejected quite few times)but now that I'm with BA I can see the advantages of working for a big company.I'm now 24 years old and wether I'll have a family or not I know I don't want fly forever and I've got the desire of improving myself and doing different things in life.(Being Gemini I also like variety!)
Down the other side though nobody at BA can guarantee me anything regarding the pay and the roster getting better.When I attended the interview I went for a full time job with a full time pay and had been told I would have started doing longhaul straight from October.Well now I've been told by everybody that I have to wait til Feb.or March which either of them aren't exactly around the corner.
So...Hopefully if I get Jal I'll get ,LHR,longhaul and a decent salary straight away together with the advantages of a big company.If I don't at least I'll have some breathing space to think weather or not I want still being with BA.
Let me know what you think and thanks again for your cooperation.
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This does not however prevent BA from setting up BALGW Ltd at some point in the future, irrespective of your NSP status. Let us hope that this course is most unlikely and LGW continues profitably. It is most likely that the ramp/ check-in would be outsourced or switched to a limited company, in the future.
With the political situation nowadays, the routes operated by Bmed are at a serious risk, and with them the airline.
You are forgetting one important part of LGW, which is our pilot force. 737 pilots are Gatwick based, while 777 pilots are London based. I do not know what would happen with them then if what you suggested became true....plus all this training for SF is costing the company money, and remember BA hasn't ever done anything just for the glory (well apart from flying the concorde maybe). LH operations out of LGW have got no revenue problems and SH was profitable and on target this year......WW might be a sadist for some but SURELY he's not a masochist....
As for GB airways, rumours in the many BA offices are that BA will terminate its franchise agreement with GB (and by the way, this could happen at any time in the future with Bmed too, because even if they wear the same uniform and offer a similar product they are not BA, sad but true) and SFLGW would start to compete directly with GB on the Spanish and other routes. Whether this is true or not we'll find out in the next year or two maybe, however it's food for thought.
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When I attended the interview I went for a full time job with a full time pay and had been told I would have started doing longhaul straight from October.Well now I've been told by everybody that I have to wait til Feb.or March which either of them aren't exactly around the corner.
Good luck with your JAL interview, it might be that THAT is the right onw for you. I am sure that if you succeed you'll have amazing memories to tell, even if you don't want to fly forever!!! I wish we flew to Japan from LGW as Japan is a truly magnificent country with an amazing culture. And Good luck with learning Japanese!!!!
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