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I know of at least two crew that are less than 163cm. Both had to do a "reach" test to ensure they could cover the door in an emergency.
These days you can't openly discriminate against people for physical attributes when they are clearly able to do the job. With your past experience I don't see it as a problem.
Good luck with it all, you could also add some height to the "do".
These days you can't openly discriminate against people for physical attributes when they are clearly able to do the job. With your past experience I don't see it as a problem.
Good luck with it all, you could also add some height to the "do".
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Why are Jetstar going to Japan to employ Japanese FA's?
On the Jetstar website they are recruiting Japanese nationals to be based in Sydney. I gather they are going to sponsor their visas also.
If American Express can fill its Japanese call centre in Sydney without having to go to Japan why does Jetstar have to go to Japan to get a few flight attendants? Maybe Japanese already living in Sydney who are aware of the cost of living do not find the conditions desirable? And what about all the Australians that can speak Japanese? Qantas have a lot of Japanese speaking Australian cabin crew don't they?
If American Express can fill its Japanese call centre in Sydney without having to go to Japan why does Jetstar have to go to Japan to get a few flight attendants? Maybe Japanese already living in Sydney who are aware of the cost of living do not find the conditions desirable? And what about all the Australians that can speak Japanese? Qantas have a lot of Japanese speaking Australian cabin crew don't they?
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"And what about all the Australians that can speak Japanese? Qantas have a lot of Japanese speaking Australian cabin crew don't they?"
And Qantas crew would be mad to leave QF for JQ given the pay difference.
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all the people that are currently part time with JQ are old schoolers who were around BEFORE jetstar began. anyone that started with the birth of jetstar would be mid to bottom of list. sorry to burst his bubble, but unless he is playing the system somehow by using illness/personal problems as an excuse (and there are some out there that are - which is disgusting if its true) he cant possibly be part time.
If you joined the company now.. you would have a roughly three to five year wait for part time, if not more.
You cant start off as FT and 'request' to be part time.. you have to go on the list and wait for heaven and earth to move.
i dont know about casuals soon.. it would make sense, and i am suprised they havent done anything about it so far, but one thing that has suprised me is why are they giving new recruits a FT employment under JQ on the EBA with staff travel? dont get me wrong.. i think its great they are, and i hope they continue to do so.. but for a company that is so goddamn tight.. it baffles me why they havent put the new crew on AWAs with no QF staff travel already.. i mean, they would still pull in the numbers for ground schools and its not like it wouldnt be SAVING them money surely?
If you joined the company now.. you would have a roughly three to five year wait for part time, if not more.
You cant start off as FT and 'request' to be part time.. you have to go on the list and wait for heaven and earth to move.
i dont know about casuals soon.. it would make sense, and i am suprised they havent done anything about it so far, but one thing that has suprised me is why are they giving new recruits a FT employment under JQ on the EBA with staff travel? dont get me wrong.. i think its great they are, and i hope they continue to do so.. but for a company that is so goddamn tight.. it baffles me why they havent put the new crew on AWAs with no QF staff travel already.. i mean, they would still pull in the numbers for ground schools and its not like it wouldnt be SAVING them money surely?
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" they work for MAM now, QF crew would be mad to leave for JQ "
last I checked, working for MAM is being a casual contractor, no QF benefits.
Sure, there's the promise of full time QF ( eventually ) but with the projected expansion of JQ.....................
Maybe working for JQ not so mad after all?
last I checked, working for MAM is being a casual contractor, no QF benefits.
Sure, there's the promise of full time QF ( eventually ) but with the projected expansion of JQ.....................
Maybe working for JQ not so mad after all?
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The problem working or J* is that you would need a second job to makes ends meet.That leads to another problem and that is when would you have the time.
I wonder if you could argue to centerlink that you are below the poverty line when employed by J* and you want to apply for the dole and claim that working for J* is work experience.
I wonder if you could argue to centerlink that you are below the poverty line when employed by J* and you want to apply for the dole and claim that working for J* is work experience.
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staff travel
qf makes money out of staff travel otherwise we wouldn't have it.
fuel surcharges both domestically and on international routes have
pushed up staff travel costs.
if u intend to travel international try using 'zed' fares...no fuel surcharges!
still have to buy them through staff travel.
gozed.com
QF
081
ZEDFARES
www.flyzed.com
QFA
081
these extra bits are to access the sites
bucketloads of eu usa and asian a/l accept them
supposedly can't use them on qf flights
happy holidays
fuel surcharges both domestically and on international routes have
pushed up staff travel costs.
if u intend to travel international try using 'zed' fares...no fuel surcharges!
still have to buy them through staff travel.
gozed.com
QF
081
ZEDFARES
www.flyzed.com
QFA
081
these extra bits are to access the sites
bucketloads of eu usa and asian a/l accept them
supposedly can't use them on qf flights
happy holidays
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Cunning,
So you are telling us that J* domestic make $39000 a year after tax ?
That makes it around $ 65000 to $70000 gross....oh sure I believe that.
They must be selling around 200 headsets and sandwiches per flight each and working 23 hours 58 minutes per day and selling real estate on the job as well to make that money or are you talking about first officers
So you are telling us that J* domestic make $39000 a year after tax ?
That makes it around $ 65000 to $70000 gross....oh sure I believe that.
They must be selling around 200 headsets and sandwiches per flight each and working 23 hours 58 minutes per day and selling real estate on the job as well to make that money or are you talking about first officers
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I gross 83 P/A and take home 60, thats equals 23k in tax per year.( I think )
You reckon the missus should be paying 26-31k per year in tax on 65-70k per year, so let me get this straight: she earns 10-13k less gross and pays 3-8 more in tax??
what country you in
While your down at centrelink you may want to find a decent accountant, if you are paying those rates.
I can only go on what gets deposited into our bank acct each fortnight, other than an obvious axe grinding exercise, what are you working your figures out from??
My partner and I have both worked for lesser operators in the past and are both very happy where we are, not everyone is lucky ( or smart, in my case ) enough to work for qf, nor does everyone want to work in the sandpit or fragrant harbour.
I have nothing against criticysm, it's just BS I cant stand.
You reckon the missus should be paying 26-31k per year in tax on 65-70k per year, so let me get this straight: she earns 10-13k less gross and pays 3-8 more in tax??
what country you in
While your down at centrelink you may want to find a decent accountant, if you are paying those rates.
I can only go on what gets deposited into our bank acct each fortnight, other than an obvious axe grinding exercise, what are you working your figures out from??
My partner and I have both worked for lesser operators in the past and are both very happy where we are, not everyone is lucky ( or smart, in my case ) enough to work for qf, nor does everyone want to work in the sandpit or fragrant harbour.
I have nothing against criticysm, it's just BS I cant stand.
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Red T Bar -
JQ Domestic Flight attendants are on a good thing....
I made $55k gross which was about $39000 net (from memory without looking at my tax return)..... I have gone up to Level 3 so I should make a bit more this year.....My minimum without Overnights or commission is about $1400 net a fortnight.....
Not too bad for a low cost FA......who gets 10 days off a month and full staff travel benefits and 20 days sick leave and 6 weeks annual leave.....
I hear all these people saying how they can't afford to live on a JQ salary, well I guess they should work 40 hour week at a call centre and earn $32000 gross and no benefits.....
JQ Domestic Flight attendants are on a good thing....
I made $55k gross which was about $39000 net (from memory without looking at my tax return)..... I have gone up to Level 3 so I should make a bit more this year.....My minimum without Overnights or commission is about $1400 net a fortnight.....
Not too bad for a low cost FA......who gets 10 days off a month and full staff travel benefits and 20 days sick leave and 6 weeks annual leave.....
I hear all these people saying how they can't afford to live on a JQ salary, well I guess they should work 40 hour week at a call centre and earn $32000 gross and no benefits.....
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The problem working or J* is that you would need a second job to makes ends meet.That leads to another problem and that is when would you have the time.
I wonder if you could argue to centerlink that you are below the poverty line when employed by J* and you want to apply for the dole and claim that working for J* is work experience.
I wonder if you could argue to centerlink that you are below the poverty line when employed by J* and you want to apply for the dole and claim that working for J* is work experience.
I don't really understand this..
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PINK - you are so true,,,,
I think people think that because they paid $49 for a flight that we as crew get paid $250 a week...
Yes we get less than say a 10 year Mainline Flight attendant but we get paid enough to keep a bottle of wine on standby and treat the kids to a private school education.....
People complain about our pay and being not able to survive,,,, I think it is just galley drama talk.
I think people think that because they paid $49 for a flight that we as crew get paid $250 a week...
Yes we get less than say a 10 year Mainline Flight attendant but we get paid enough to keep a bottle of wine on standby and treat the kids to a private school education.....
People complain about our pay and being not able to survive,,,, I think it is just galley drama talk.
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Taxable income Tax on this income
$0 – $6,000 Nil
$6,001 – $21,600 15c for each $1 over $6,000
$21,601 – $63,000 $2,340 plus 30c for each $1 over $21,600
$63,001 – $95,000 $14,760 plus 42c for each $1 over $63,000
Over $95,000 $28,200 plus 47c for each $1 over $95,000
This is a cut and paste from the ATO website which shows quite clearly that taxable income of $63000 only attracts $14760 of tax = $48240 take home, substantially more than $39000.
Maybe you should check your facts before you post RedTBar
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Fair enough Twiggs, I’m happy to be corrected with my maths.It had been a long day and my inbuilt calculator was a bit off.
The funny thing I was having a shot at J*’s conditions rather than J* crew because the crew I know are not happy with their pay and only look at it as a short term prospect.
Although it would have been nice for Cunning to answer what is really a simple question.
As far as that goes I admit I am surprised you could amke 60K or so from J* so can anyone here post the basic wages for a J* F/A before any allowances and how much you can make on selling food and drink.
The funny thing I was having a shot at J*’s conditions rather than J* crew because the crew I know are not happy with their pay and only look at it as a short term prospect.
Although it would have been nice for Cunning to answer what is really a simple question.
As far as that goes I admit I am surprised you could amke 60K or so from J* so can anyone here post the basic wages for a J* F/A before any allowances and how much you can make on selling food and drink.
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First year flight attendant is on $39947 per year and goes up from there onwards.
Live day payments for first years is about $23.50 per hour, and goes up after every year of serivce.
GG commission is bout $200 to $300 per month, depends on your duties and where you fly, out of syd we get about that.
We often get over nights, which is tax free, as every airline is... Sometimes we dont get them.
Meal break allowances for not recieving them, we are paid every hour until we recieve a break, after 5 hours from sign on.
Shoe alowances we get every fornight, which is basic groomiung allowances.
Working days off, which can happen a bit if your willing to work, $250 per day..
Add all these up... You wonder how i earnt $60k ... And im a level 2 flight attendant...
Hope this helps you understand a little better. The conditions arent that bad... And we are permanent FULL TIME, no a causal. I get 6 weeks AL a year, and stacks of sick leave...
Live day payments for first years is about $23.50 per hour, and goes up after every year of serivce.
GG commission is bout $200 to $300 per month, depends on your duties and where you fly, out of syd we get about that.
We often get over nights, which is tax free, as every airline is... Sometimes we dont get them.
Meal break allowances for not recieving them, we are paid every hour until we recieve a break, after 5 hours from sign on.
Shoe alowances we get every fornight, which is basic groomiung allowances.
Working days off, which can happen a bit if your willing to work, $250 per day..
Add all these up... You wonder how i earnt $60k ... And im a level 2 flight attendant...
Hope this helps you understand a little better. The conditions arent that bad... And we are permanent FULL TIME, no a causal. I get 6 weeks AL a year, and stacks of sick leave...
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Hey Kids...
Let ditzyboy tell you how it is... It's my honesty policy again...
Pay at Jetstar for flight attendants is pretty good for one's workload. I got $55k and $52k the tax years I was "lucky" enough to be employed there.
Inflight service at The Star takes 5-20 mins. Last night it took two hours to serve supper in the 767 back from HKG (then another 75 mins for Breakfast)... The rest of the time spent doing Duty Free, C209s and soothing people's egos about the fact the aircraft didn't have Skybeds and PTVs etc... I can tell you where the easier money is in this instance.
It seems most of the people bagging Jetstar pay are not actually employed by The Star. It is management that make Jetstar so inhumane. Not the pay. I laugh every time a Short Haul colleague whinges about how terrible management are. Jetstar crew should get a bonus for working under these terrible people.
As for the money. I have done that math. If you compare apples to apples (mostly day trips). The money is almost indentical for the first three years (Jetstar don;t want you for longer than that!), except at Jetstar you get at least one day off more per month compared to Short Haul (permament that is).
And Cityflyer is right... The base salary is much higher ($10k pa!), which comes in handy on annual leave and sick leave scenarios. And you have full time benefits (staff travel) over MAM.
Sorry but it's the truth.
Let ditzyboy tell you how it is... It's my honesty policy again...
Pay at Jetstar for flight attendants is pretty good for one's workload. I got $55k and $52k the tax years I was "lucky" enough to be employed there.
Inflight service at The Star takes 5-20 mins. Last night it took two hours to serve supper in the 767 back from HKG (then another 75 mins for Breakfast)... The rest of the time spent doing Duty Free, C209s and soothing people's egos about the fact the aircraft didn't have Skybeds and PTVs etc... I can tell you where the easier money is in this instance.
It seems most of the people bagging Jetstar pay are not actually employed by The Star. It is management that make Jetstar so inhumane. Not the pay. I laugh every time a Short Haul colleague whinges about how terrible management are. Jetstar crew should get a bonus for working under these terrible people.
As for the money. I have done that math. If you compare apples to apples (mostly day trips). The money is almost indentical for the first three years (Jetstar don;t want you for longer than that!), except at Jetstar you get at least one day off more per month compared to Short Haul (permament that is).
And Cityflyer is right... The base salary is much higher ($10k pa!), which comes in handy on annual leave and sick leave scenarios. And you have full time benefits (staff travel) over MAM.
Sorry but it's the truth.