Etihad
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Glasgow UK
Thanks Violin I'm so excited Its my dream job hopefully I have the right experience they are looking for I am a manager of a mobile phone shop in the uk big pink network lol so I think I have the right customer service backround the funny thing is in my job I recruit people I could breeze our job interviews its just I dont know what etihad are looking at!
With regards to medicals anyone got a ball park figure on how much it is in the UK?
With regards to medicals anyone got a ball park figure on how much it is in the UK?
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: New Zealand
Hi Webwebbingloop
Haven't had much chance of late to catch up on this thread but having read your last post, I wanted to get in touch and ask you a few questions, I hope that you don't mind me asking, but if you don't ask, you don't get and I hope that you may find a moment to reply, here goes:-
You mentioned that you've been offered the position of Cabin Manager, may I ask when they offered you the position? Was it very recently?
Did you attend the assessment day in Sydney on 23rd March?
Are you currently working for an airline?
If so, is your current position that of second senior/sfs/csd/inflight manager?
Did you have to have a separate interview for the Cabin Manager's position or did they interview you for that position on the assessment day if you attended one?
Have you been given a start date and if so when?
From reading your previous posts, you sounded as though you were very keen in taking the position and couldn't wait for the offer, do you have something in particular that is making you have second thoughts?
Sorry to bamboozle you with all these questions, but I'm very keen to find out as my partner is in a similar predicament to you and your answers would certainly help with decision making.
Thanks for taking the time and hope that you will reply soon.
Samara.
Haven't had much chance of late to catch up on this thread but having read your last post, I wanted to get in touch and ask you a few questions, I hope that you don't mind me asking, but if you don't ask, you don't get and I hope that you may find a moment to reply, here goes:-
You mentioned that you've been offered the position of Cabin Manager, may I ask when they offered you the position? Was it very recently?
Did you attend the assessment day in Sydney on 23rd March?
Are you currently working for an airline?
If so, is your current position that of second senior/sfs/csd/inflight manager?
Did you have to have a separate interview for the Cabin Manager's position or did they interview you for that position on the assessment day if you attended one?
Have you been given a start date and if so when?
From reading your previous posts, you sounded as though you were very keen in taking the position and couldn't wait for the offer, do you have something in particular that is making you have second thoughts?
Sorry to bamboozle you with all these questions, but I'm very keen to find out as my partner is in a similar predicament to you and your answers would certainly help with decision making.
Thanks for taking the time and hope that you will reply soon.
Samara.
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Dubai
Assessment Day
Hi Weeflygirl,
Just relax and be yourself on the day, the people who conducted the interviews in Melbourne were fantastic and made the day enjoyable. I think they can really tell when you are not being yourself.
I'm sure your current job will help you with answering any customer service orientated questions they will ask you.
It was great to get it all done in one day, it was a long day but it was fantastic to know you had achieved something at the end of it.
It took them two weeks exactly to get me to proceed with my medicals and I have just sent them through now, hopefully I will get to start in early June.
If you have any questions just PM me and I'll help wherever I can.
Best of luck and have faith in yourself.
Tanya
Just relax and be yourself on the day, the people who conducted the interviews in Melbourne were fantastic and made the day enjoyable. I think they can really tell when you are not being yourself.
I'm sure your current job will help you with answering any customer service orientated questions they will ask you.
It was great to get it all done in one day, it was a long day but it was fantastic to know you had achieved something at the end of it.
It took them two weeks exactly to get me to proceed with my medicals and I have just sent them through now, hopefully I will get to start in early June.
If you have any questions just PM me and I'll help wherever I can.
Best of luck and have faith in yourself.
Tanya
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: ABU DHABI
G'day allllllll....I called EY lastnite to find out what the GO was as Im planning to depart in 3 weeks but still no confirmation.
EY finally advised my departure date Thursday May 17th! A few days before the actual training.
Anyone else starting the training on May 20th??????
EYTRUTH - Would EY care if I shaved my head with number zero on the clippers? or would I need to grow it abit? I never have hair
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 54
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From: Dubai
You're Leaving
Hey Nick,
OH MY GOD !!!!!!! You've finally got confirmation and you're leaving, WOOOOHOOOO !!!!
I'm really excited for you. I bet you're jumping out of your skin !!!
Are you nearly ready to go?? I spoke to Ryan today, he's a really nice guy. He advised that he was forwarding my contract and that early June is fine for me to start.
Dreams becoming reality, how lucky are we.
Anyway, have an awesome night and I'll talk to you in the next couple of days hun.
Tanya
OH MY GOD !!!!!!! You've finally got confirmation and you're leaving, WOOOOHOOOO !!!!
I'm really excited for you. I bet you're jumping out of your skin !!!
Are you nearly ready to go?? I spoke to Ryan today, he's a really nice guy. He advised that he was forwarding my contract and that early June is fine for me to start.
Dreams becoming reality, how lucky are we.
Anyway, have an awesome night and I'll talk to you in the next couple of days hun.
Tanya
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Austria
Hum,... wow thats so great they assigned you a departure date, nickvan!
They told me I can start on the 6th, but still no confirmation and any info concerning departure date etc... I hope I'll get news from them soon... it would be only like one more week until I'd have to leave... gosh...
They told me I can start on the 6th, but still no confirmation and any info concerning departure date etc... I hope I'll get news from them soon... it would be only like one more week until I'd have to leave... gosh...
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Toronto
Hey violinplayer21c
I was given the same choice of date and I chose the 13th. I thought I had confirmed that, but when I called Ryan last friday, he told me nothing was confirmed and that he was still waiting for my decision. So do not wait for him to get back to you. Either e-mail him or call him right away. I would e-mail as he responds very quickly. Hope to see you there
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Austria
Cheena, thanks... ya know, I've been emailing and talking on the phone with R. like a hundred times the last few days because he still needed my Hemoglobin Test and the signed contract... and I even asked again what I should fill for starting date in the contract. He said I should leave it blank, I'll be signing the original soon in auh. (whatever thats supposed to mean).
Then when I sent it I asked if the offer with the 6th is still avail. No response.
Then when I sent the Hemoglobin Test yesterday I asked again if theres any news, and I stated my prefered airport for departure... no response till now.
So I hope I can get news on Sunday... but I'm not very sure about the 6th anymore, cause, if he tells me on sunday that I should leave on the 4th or something, I'll have like 5 days including a sunday and austrian independence day to get all things done prior to dep.... nooooo waaaay!
Hum, but I'll call him on sunday... they have their weekend now I guess.
Hugs, hope to see ya soon in auh.
Then when I sent it I asked if the offer with the 6th is still avail. No response.
Then when I sent the Hemoglobin Test yesterday I asked again if theres any news, and I stated my prefered airport for departure... no response till now.
So I hope I can get news on Sunday... but I'm not very sure about the 6th anymore, cause, if he tells me on sunday that I should leave on the 4th or something, I'll have like 5 days including a sunday and austrian independence day to get all things done prior to dep.... nooooo waaaay!
Hum, but I'll call him on sunday... they have their weekend now I guess.
Hugs, hope to see ya soon in auh.
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: AUH
Nickvan, don't worry about the hair cut, we have some quite bold crew here, lol. The worst thing that can happen to u is to be told to grow your hair ;-)
Webwebbingloop, tough decision. In general it's not bad here, but keep in mind that things which r normal for us westerns are not normal here. U will join EY as Cabin Manager so u will have good money, your own accomodation, and so on. Just be prepeared to work with morons sometimes (cockpit included). Things r not ideal here, there r changes but they come slowly. If u r not risking too much, come, give it a try. My advice is to stick 6-12 months, and than u will have a clear picture of your future actions.
Contract thing
Welcome to Middle East guys! EY is famous for its contracts, which change over night. Many things r not precise, many things r not written, but that's the way how they work here. But, u should not be a fool. Once when u arrive here, if they change your contract totally, act on this. There were few cases in the past where the whole batches left the training because of these things. Also, almost a year ago, there was a batch where they tried to give them different salaries than what was promised in the contract, so people were complaining and threatning to leave, so they didn't change anything. So, be smart!
They do tell u contract is for 3 years, but it's 2 years on the paper. The truth is your contract is renewd after 3 years, and your residence visa as well. Not to worry about this.
The contracts we have in Europe and the rest of the normal world, are very precise, not like here.
Also, keep in mind that as a worker here, u almost don't have any rights (and this is for all foreigners in UAE), unions do not exist, and any kind of strike is prohibited. Employer can do whatever he wants
Webwebbingloop, tough decision. In general it's not bad here, but keep in mind that things which r normal for us westerns are not normal here. U will join EY as Cabin Manager so u will have good money, your own accomodation, and so on. Just be prepeared to work with morons sometimes (cockpit included). Things r not ideal here, there r changes but they come slowly. If u r not risking too much, come, give it a try. My advice is to stick 6-12 months, and than u will have a clear picture of your future actions.
Contract thing
Welcome to Middle East guys! EY is famous for its contracts, which change over night. Many things r not precise, many things r not written, but that's the way how they work here. But, u should not be a fool. Once when u arrive here, if they change your contract totally, act on this. There were few cases in the past where the whole batches left the training because of these things. Also, almost a year ago, there was a batch where they tried to give them different salaries than what was promised in the contract, so people were complaining and threatning to leave, so they didn't change anything. So, be smart!
They do tell u contract is for 3 years, but it's 2 years on the paper. The truth is your contract is renewd after 3 years, and your residence visa as well. Not to worry about this.
The contracts we have in Europe and the rest of the normal world, are very precise, not like here.
Also, keep in mind that as a worker here, u almost don't have any rights (and this is for all foreigners in UAE), unions do not exist, and any kind of strike is prohibited. Employer can do whatever he wants
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: ABU DHABI
Wow Eytruth...very interesting reading.......
I hope it doesnt work out like the other batches when we arrive there.
Alot of people are saying EK was just like this in its first 3 years of operation and expected on many new carriers at its young age. One of these people is My Uncle and few family friends who have been with EK since 1987 and is still flying with them.
I really do hope things improve over the next few years as Im planning to be working abroad for the long run.
Possibly with EY. With EY Im just happy to be part of a young Airline that will hopefully become on par with many of the well respected Airlines today, EK, SQ, MH etc etc etc in the future as people are predicting.
Lets hope the Best are yet to come! hahaha
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From: Qatar
Hi there!
is there any one really experienced,in middle east.
I'm csd at qr and looking for change , but as seen all this don't want to go trough same thing again....
_grooming?? regulations? highlights? whos in charge?
_sep ,service trainers?? and their nationality..
_is crew allowed to have alcohol??guests?? security at crew buildings?
_working atmosphere?? bunch of back stabbers???
_crew rest in flight? at base??
basically if you worked for for qr before ,would appreciate honest update how things REALLY are?
is there any one really experienced,in middle east.
I'm csd at qr and looking for change , but as seen all this don't want to go trough same thing again....
_grooming?? regulations? highlights? whos in charge?
_sep ,service trainers?? and their nationality..
_is crew allowed to have alcohol??guests?? security at crew buildings?
_working atmosphere?? bunch of back stabbers???
_crew rest in flight? at base??
basically if you worked for for qr before ,would appreciate honest update how things REALLY are?
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 54
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From: Dubai
Ey
Ikya, How long has it been since your interview process??? Best of luck.
EYTruth, thank you so much for your honesty, you are fantastic.
I received my contract today and have a couple of questions to email Ryan but I'm very excited that it's all coming true very quickly.
TanyaD
EYTruth, thank you so much for your honesty, you are fantastic.
I received my contract today and have a couple of questions to email Ryan but I'm very excited that it's all coming true very quickly.
TanyaD
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: AUH
Nickvan, my personal opinion about contracts is that those bad things mentioned will not happen again. EY desperately needs more crew as loads of people resigned in previous period. Second, u guys r coming from Oz, and not to offend anyone, but u stand for your rights, things just can't pass easily with you ... and the CEO is Aussie :-)
TanyaD, thanx
Goingup, EY is totally different from QR in many ways. QR is more like a military, I have quite a few friends there.
The SEP trainers r British, Philipinos, Arabs, etc ....
Yes u can have alcohol, but of course, u can't drink 12 hrs before the flight. U can keep alcohol in the flat, but u will need liquor licence (most people don't have it, lol)
Guests are allowed till midnight, and in some buildings till 01:00. If u want to have someone for longer period (ie. vacation) u will get company's permission without problem.
Working atmosphere - relaxed! Nothing like QR. We do have back stabbers, but u don't come across them very often. But, u will have flights with s...y crew (they don't go out, they r lazy on the flight, etc)
Crew rest - u will get one if the flight time is over 8hrs. But sometims, if the flight is not full and the Cabin Manager is cool, u will get one even on shorter flights ;-)
Anything else? Let me know ....
TanyaD, thanx
Goingup, EY is totally different from QR in many ways. QR is more like a military, I have quite a few friends there.
The SEP trainers r British, Philipinos, Arabs, etc ....
Yes u can have alcohol, but of course, u can't drink 12 hrs before the flight. U can keep alcohol in the flat, but u will need liquor licence (most people don't have it, lol)
Guests are allowed till midnight, and in some buildings till 01:00. If u want to have someone for longer period (ie. vacation) u will get company's permission without problem.
Working atmosphere - relaxed! Nothing like QR. We do have back stabbers, but u don't come across them very often. But, u will have flights with s...y crew (they don't go out, they r lazy on the flight, etc)
Crew rest - u will get one if the flight time is over 8hrs. But sometims, if the flight is not full and the Cabin Manager is cool, u will get one even on shorter flights ;-)
Anything else? Let me know ....
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: ABU DHABI
EYTRUTH...your full of knowledge... 
luckily your already working for EY. 8 Hours with no rest? Im not sure if thats too long or not..ive never been Cabin Crew before so dont know..
Im assuming just like your 8 hour day job you get 30 min lunchbreak. But with flying you'll probably be busy during the meal services only? which is obviously not 8 hours long.
Now ive gotta worry about that alcohol permit lol
luckily your already working for EY. 8 Hours with no rest? Im not sure if thats too long or not..ive never been Cabin Crew before so dont know..Im assuming just like your 8 hour day job you get 30 min lunchbreak. But with flying you'll probably be busy during the meal services only? which is obviously not 8 hours long.
Now ive gotta worry about that alcohol permit
lol