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Being tongue and cheeky.
Biggles - Thats why we have handcuffs and restraining straps my dear! Theres nothing better than watching some idiot being carted off by the police, so its not our problem at all, its our entertainment 
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And BMED - t'is a chat forum, thats what we're doing here, chatting my lovley... its called a conversation. Mwa Mwa x.
. And BMED - t'is a chat forum, thats what we're doing here, chatting my lovley... its called a conversation. Mwa Mwa x.
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Biggles - Thats why we have handcuffs and restraining straps my dear! Theres nothing better than watching some idiot being carted off by the police, so its not our problem at all, its our entertainment .
And BMED - t'is a chat forum, thats what we're doing here, chatting my lovley... its called a conversation. Mwa Mwa x.
. And BMED - t'is a chat forum, thats what we're doing here, chatting my lovley... its called a conversation. Mwa Mwa x.
, Sorry was little out of order !!
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ok im wrong about wich airline. i was led to beleve it was singapore however i was wrong, my mistake
reguardes ryanair and mobiles is this the same airline wich is going to sue the government for the security checks when a real threat was found. im getting the ferry to ireland coz if thay are that worried about otd then will thay use untrained crew to shorten the traning???!!!
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reguardes ryanair and mobiles is this the same airline wich is going to sue the government for the security checks when a real threat was found. im getting the ferry to ireland coz if thay are that worried about otd then will thay use untrained crew to shorten the traning???!!!
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I've accidentally left my mobile phone on inflight lots of times as have countless others no doubt on any given flight without any problems.
I of course go by the rules and would never dream of using it but in this case I would have been sorely tempted to just because of the FA's attitude.
What intrigues me more is that she didn't know about the hour's delay.
I of course go by the rules and would never dream of using it but in this case I would have been sorely tempted to just because of the FA's attitude.
What intrigues me more is that she didn't know about the hour's delay.
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From a CAA flight safety circular, issued to all "G" registered helicopter operators.
On the 29th April 2004, a Super Puma L2 (helicopter) was returning from offshore. As it was on the approach to it’s destination airport, a passenger used his mobile ‘phone. This resulted in the loss of all flight and navigation information on both pilot’s Integrated Flight Display System screens lasting one second during this critical phase of flight.
The UK Civil Aviation Authority carried out tests on two parked aircraft to find out the potential dangers of mobile ‘phone use. It found evidence that they produced interference levels which could disrupt aircraft systems. Faults attributed to mobile ‘phones include false cockpit warnings, malfunctioning of aircraft systems, interference in pilot’s headsets – all distracting the crew from their primary task.
The UK Civil Aviation Authority carried out tests on two parked aircraft to find out the potential dangers of mobile ‘phone use. It found evidence that they produced interference levels which could disrupt aircraft systems. Faults attributed to mobile ‘phones include false cockpit warnings, malfunctioning of aircraft systems, interference in pilot’s headsets – all distracting the crew from their primary task.
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Thanks for all your comments guys, its been a while now since this happened. After reading through this whole thread and thinking back to when it happened, i feel -what with the aircraft doors wide open, engines off and an hour wait ahead of us -as told by the Captain for ALL to hear- and not one mention to switch phones off, the FA was having a bad day (WE ALL GET THEM) and jumped at the chance to berate someone. Sending a quick text would not have put anybody in danger!!
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Sorry guys but unless your Crew you really have no say in the matter.
If we say to do something on a flight wether the doors are open, closed, were in the air or whatever, we are just doing our jobs! Please respect that and do as we ask.
We have had intense training and however much evidence you find to the contrary we are asking you to switch your mobile off, put your seatbelt on, open the window blinds etc for a reason. And believe it or not the reason is not to just annoy you!
As stupid as these things sound we do not make up the rules, the CAA/FAA do, and the airlines may have their own variations! And until these rules change Im affraid its tough
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If we say to do something on a flight wether the doors are open, closed, were in the air or whatever, we are just doing our jobs! Please respect that and do as we ask.
We have had intense training and however much evidence you find to the contrary we are asking you to switch your mobile off, put your seatbelt on, open the window blinds etc for a reason. And believe it or not the reason is not to just annoy you!
As stupid as these things sound we do not make up the rules, the CAA/FAA do, and the airlines may have their own variations! And until these rules change Im affraid its tough
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Sorry guys but unless your Crew you really have no say in the matter.
If we say to do something on a flight wether the doors are open, closed, were in the air or whatever, we are just doing our jobs! Please respect that and do as we ask.
We have had intense training and however much evidence you find to the contrary we are asking you to switch your mobile off, put your seatbelt on, open the window blinds etc for a reason. And believe it or not the reason is not to just annoy you!
As stupid as these things sound we do not make up the rules, the CAA/FAA do, and the airlines may have their own variations! And until these rules change Im affraid its tough .
If we say to do something on a flight wether the doors are open, closed, were in the air or whatever, we are just doing our jobs! Please respect that and do as we ask.
We have had intense training and however much evidence you find to the contrary we are asking you to switch your mobile off, put your seatbelt on, open the window blinds etc for a reason. And believe it or not the reason is not to just annoy you!
As stupid as these things sound we do not make up the rules, the CAA/FAA do, and the airlines may have their own variations! And until these rules change Im affraid its tough
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let me outline the rules as in the ANO (no verbatim but in outline)
The capitain has the power of law on board
this power is delegated down thru the crew
as a pasenger you are legaly obliged to obay any instructions from the crew
so wether you agree or not is besides the point if the crew tell you to switch it off please just do it.
The capitain has the power of law on board
this power is delegated down thru the crew
as a pasenger you are legaly obliged to obay any instructions from the crew
so wether you agree or not is besides the point if the crew tell you to switch it off please just do it.
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Respect would be accepting the laws and doing as we ask, not arguing the fact..
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Hi
Just to clarify things, i DID switch my phone off when the FA told me, even though she did speak to me like trash, which is totally unprofessional and unnecessary
- but i rose above it
I have no argument with following an FA's instruction. (Even though nobody else on their phones were told to switch off) And i know rules are there for a reason which is why i didnt cause a fuss.
I just wanted to know what problems a text message would have caused.
Was just curious.. you know- just out of interest - why is that rule in place? I felt uncomfortable asking the FA as she was not particularly approachable..
But anyway - loads of you have answered my question, technical interference. So now i know- Ta very much!
It was odd though, that even after the Captain announced a 1 hour delay, the FA insisted we were 'about to take off'.. nevermind, no harm done.
Just to clarify things, i DID switch my phone off when the FA told me, even though she did speak to me like trash, which is totally unprofessional and unnecessary
- but i rose above it I have no argument with following an FA's instruction. (Even though nobody else on their phones were told to switch off) And i know rules are there for a reason which is why i didnt cause a fuss.
I just wanted to know what problems a text message would have caused.
Was just curious.. you know- just out of interest - why is that rule in place? I felt uncomfortable asking the FA as she was not particularly approachable..
But anyway - loads of you have answered my question, technical interference. So now i know- Ta very much!
It was odd though, that even after the Captain announced a 1 hour delay, the FA insisted we were 'about to take off'.. nevermind, no harm done.
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Not trying to be high and mighty......look at your own post!!!!!! If you'd read this thread properly from the beginning, and understood it, you'd get where I was coming from.
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Having read thru from start to finish I am left wondering if Flying_Hostie is actually the FA that Beana is referring to
It strikes me that in the circumstances Beana mentions, and you don't need the brains of a rocket scientist to reach this conclusion, the FA should have asked him to stop using his phone until she had picked up her "phone" and asked the Captain, in light of the open doors, engines not running and an already announced 1 hour delay if it was OK for the Pax to use their phones to let folks know of their situation. If the Captain says NO then he's the bad guy, the FA looks as if he/she has tried their best and and all is love and kisses in the cabin.
No brainer really
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It strikes me that in the circumstances Beana mentions, and you don't need the brains of a rocket scientist to reach this conclusion, the FA should have asked him to stop using his phone until she had picked up her "phone" and asked the Captain, in light of the open doors, engines not running and an already announced 1 hour delay if it was OK for the Pax to use their phones to let folks know of their situation. If the Captain says NO then he's the bad guy, the FA looks as if he/she has tried their best and and all is love and kisses in the cabin.
No brainer really
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How many of you actually are Cabin Crew? Because its only ever the people who dont understand that want to complain, and if your not crew then why are you on this website?..
If a policeman had asked you then would this have been such a big deal?
I seem to recall that all airlines do make a PA saying that Mobile phones are not to be used.
Im very sorry if you were spoken to like you were stupid Beana :-s , But maybe you were the 5th person in a row the CC had to tell to switch off thier phone and you were unaware of the others who were asked aswell so felt like you were being victimised.
FD- Floozy, if you read YOUR post my dear, the word "you" reffers to someone personally, if you had meant Cabin Crew being trained to treat people with respect then maybe you should have used the correct wording!
As 419 has already stated :
The UK Civil Aviation Authority carried out tests on two parked aircraft to find out the potential dangers of mobile ‘phone use. It found evidence that they produced interference levels which could disrupt aircraft systems. Faults attributed to mobile ‘phones include false cockpit warnings, malfunctioning of aircraft systems, interference in pilot’s headsets – all distracting the crew from their primary task.
So FD Floozy - I have no problem with you using your phone, so much so that if we have an emergency and you want to finish that text you started, I'd gladley leave you behind to finish it!
If a policeman had asked you then would this have been such a big deal?
I seem to recall that all airlines do make a PA saying that Mobile phones are not to be used.
Im very sorry if you were spoken to like you were stupid Beana :-s , But maybe you were the 5th person in a row the CC had to tell to switch off thier phone and you were unaware of the others who were asked aswell so felt like you were being victimised.
FD- Floozy, if you read YOUR post my dear, the word "you" reffers to someone personally, if you had meant Cabin Crew being trained to treat people with respect then maybe you should have used the correct wording!
As 419 has already stated :
The UK Civil Aviation Authority carried out tests on two parked aircraft to find out the potential dangers of mobile ‘phone use. It found evidence that they produced interference levels which could disrupt aircraft systems. Faults attributed to mobile ‘phones include false cockpit warnings, malfunctioning of aircraft systems, interference in pilot’s headsets – all distracting the crew from their primary task.
So FD Floozy - I have no problem with you using your phone, so much so that if we have an emergency and you want to finish that text you started, I'd gladley leave you behind to finish it!
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ARRGHHHH!! I was only asking a question!! Was not complaining atall, was not arguing, was not disrespecting cabin crews- i love them!! Tis my chosen career eventually...Was just curious about the rule, didnt disobey it!!
And yes, even if the law had asked me with the same horrid attitude, i would still have been curious... and hoped his day got better!!
Honestly, its not such a big deal to me, i just thought i'd ask my question and add my story to go with it...
My gosh i didnt mean to get people sniping at eachother!
Thanks for all your theories, now i know
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So FD Floozy - I have no problem with you using your phone, so much so that if we have an emergency and you want to finish that text you started, I'd gladley leave you behind to finish it! [/quote]
Flying Hostie......If you'd read my original post you'd see I agree that crew must enforce their airline's regulations. My point was simply that crew should also be polite, and it sounds like the FA dealing with Beana wasn't. What harm would a 10 second explanation to Beana of why she should have her phone off have done? I fly as single crew, and therefore my attitude very much sets the tone on my flights.......
[/quote]Flying Hostie......If you'd read my original post you'd see I agree that crew must enforce their airline's regulations. My point was simply that crew should also be polite, and it sounds like the FA dealing with Beana wasn't. What harm would a 10 second explanation to Beana of why she should have her phone off have done? I fly as single crew, and therefore my attitude very much sets the tone on my flights.......
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Or enforced by 'Nazi' like flight attendants
As one from the pointy end I will always let the pax use there phones if we are delayed providing the aircraft is not about to move.
There is a whole load of rubbish spouted about mobile phones being a risk in terms of induced EMF being a fire hazard, I find it hard to swallow that the 0.25W UHF TX from a mobile being a hazard when most airliners have 5 DME units putting out 200W UHF TX whenever the radio bus is powerd.
In my opinion most of the regulations have been writen by cabin crew management who take the stance that if they don't understand it they ban it !.
There is a whole load of rubbish spouted about mobile phones being a risk in terms of induced EMF being a fire hazard, I find it hard to swallow that the 0.25W UHF TX from a mobile being a hazard when most airliners have 5 DME units putting out 200W UHF TX whenever the radio bus is powerd.
In my opinion most of the regulations have been writen by cabin crew management who take the stance that if they don't understand it they ban it !.