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Old 31st Jul 2008, 10:39
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I have my doubts that is true

Well...sure I agree that some pax may drive you crazy sometime no matter if you are in that plane as passenger or cabin attendant but it's a bit hard to believe the story about UA boss. Some tangible evidence would be required in this case!
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 12:20
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Heard that story but it was the then head honcho of CO, Gordon Bethune that kicked the pax off...
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 17:37
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Not mine, but funny

DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of "why" our country is in trouble!
1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window.
(On an airplane!)

2. I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the

passport information, then she interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts .''

Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, ''Cape Cod is in Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa .'' Her response - click.
3. A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando . He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, ''Don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state!''
4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife who asked, ''Is it possible to see England from Canada ?'' I said, ''No.'' She said, ''But they look so close on the map.''
5. An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas . [/font]
When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas . [/font]
When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, ''I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time.'' 6. An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m. I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn't understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.
7. A New York lawmaker called and asked, ''Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom?'' I said, 'No, why do you ask?' She replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very rude!'' After putting her on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , CA is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), ]and the airline was just putting a destination tag on her luggage.
8. A Senator's aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be cheaper to fly to California , and then take the train to Hawaii ?''
9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, ''How do I know which plane to get on?'' I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ''I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.''
10. A lady Senator called and said, ''I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes?''I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL on a commuter plane. She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''
11. A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded him that he needed a visa. ''Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those.'' I double checked and sure enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, ''Look, I've been to China four times. and every time they have accepted my American Express!''
12. A New Mexico Congress woman called to make reservations, ''I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York .'' I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ''Are you sure that's the name of the town?'' ''Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the lady. After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, ma'am, I've looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a rhino anywhere." ''The lady retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check your map!''So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ''You don't mean Buffalo , do you?'' The reply? ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 21:27
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Before making your sarcastic remarks, did you pause to think that PERHAPS the lady had spent some considerable thought and time selecting her seat in the first place, and POSSIBLY for very good reasons. PERHAPS the alternative seat WAS inconvenient for her. PERHAPS she was a frequent flyer and recognised the aircraft POSSIBLY from the registration. PERHAPS she was just a little pi$$ed off with the attitude of the check-in staff.

Whatever the reasons, the tone of your remarks were not what I would expect from a professional.
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 08:52
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PAX aren't always thick or wrong though. On one occasion, I was travelling from Dayton Ohio to Stockholm Arlanda via Chicago and London Heathrow. The lady at check in was quite firm in her conviction that the bag should be tagged to STO for Stockholm. STO is Stockholm Metropolitan and it took a lot of arguing before she would tag it to ARN. As you can't fly to STO from LHR, I wonder just how long it would have taken for the bag to join me....
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 20:50
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"its known in England as sarcasm"

It's known everywhere as "superiority syndrome"

FYI Sarcasm: Noun, The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

That's from an ENGLISH dictionary.
s37

Quote from [I think] Oscar Wilde....
"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"

No shack,
It is actually called "taking the Mick"...work that one out.....

As to the thread, as an ATCer keep it up
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 06:31
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Going back to Blue Monday's comment of a few days ago, I
always understood that runways at Heathrow ARE switched, not in direction of course, during the day to equalise wear and tear, so perhaps it wasn't an unintelligent remark after all!!!! Can anyone confirm that the parrallels are swithched during the day??
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 11:53
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What does a thick business passenger in the emergency seats do when told they must hand their briefcase over to be stowed with the preferential Business Class luggage?

Refuse time and time again - "What will happen to it, it's got my wallet in etc." I was in the seat behind and was wondering if he'd be thrown off, but eventually the German lady next to me admonished him loudly (not in so many words) "Just STFU and hand it over, it's only for an hour and we'll miss our slot if you keep go ing on like that."

I resisted the urge to quip "Isn't it more usual for a wife to sit next to her husband on a flight?" though I did have a good chat to her during the flight.
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 15:02
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Strayed into here, really, after having a look at the thread about a drunk FA being hauled off to chokey and noting the lack of the sort of comments that would have been seen in a thread about a drunk passenger being hauled off....

Unfortunately I lose my sense of humour at thread titles such as "Thick Passenger Comments" which just about exemplifies all that is wrong with many of the younger members of our industry, and their contempt for the passenger, sorry "pax" as they are known here.

So how's about a "ThicK FA Comments" thread, starting with

I always understood that runways at Heathrow ARE switched, not in direction of course, during the day to equalise wear and tear,
which had us all in fits of laughter.
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 15:23
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Just a bit of venting mate!
"Inteligent comments from passengers" would not be a very long thread.

Pleanty of thick passengers!
Pleanty of thick cabin crew!
Pleanty of thick pilots!

Heard this recently, had me laughing....

Pax check their brains at the gate.
Cabin Crew pop their brains in their wheelie bags.
And Pilots... they've still got their's. It's right between their legs!
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 16:03
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Thick passenger comments

"Inteligent comments from passengers" would not be a very long thread.

Pleanty of thick passengers!
Pleanty of thick cabin crew!
Pleanty of thick pilots!

Before you start insulting the people who pay you wages, can I suggest you invest in a dictionary or a spell checker.
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 16:06
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So how's about a "ThicK FA Comments"
FA: so what does that do? (pointing to ADG)

Capt: it opens a little door and a little propeller comes out of the aircraft.

FA: well thats silly, what do you need a propellor for, this is a jet?

Capt [glancing sideways at me]: Well, its the "Automatic Ditiching Generator", if we have to ditch, we pull it when we are in the water and we can steer the plane to safety.

FA: oh that's so cool! a lot more planes should have them on!

bless! Jen was a bit of an airhead, but lovely with it !
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 19:55
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At briefing for EMA - Berlin.

Capt: "There is some thunderstorm activity forecast over Amsterdam, that's here ( points to chart ) about 45 minutes after take off"

FA: " Why are we going over Amsterdam?"

Capt: "It's on our route"

FA: " But isn't it in way up in the north?"

Same FA on another occasion " Is Bratislava a country?"
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 23:53
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Ref:Post #661

Co-pilots have to be able to write, Flt. engineers have to do sums, but Captains only have know someone who can read.

( OK, I was one - don't thrown the P.C. game at me !! )
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Ref; Post # 660

I think (?) LHR ATC used to switch runways to be kind to the inhabitants of Heathrow and / or West Drayton, or Staines / Slough but maybe it was just a tale to help their P.R. ? Not important
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 05:04
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Why do people read this thread - which has a fairly self-explanatory title - then get offended and feel the need to whine about it? I'm SLF and I love this thread, I see some really dim behaviour by my fellow passengers and am sure there's one on every flight. I'd rather see the FAs "vent" in here than at the pax (which must be very tempting sometimes!), so to all the namby pamby whingers, go and read threads about knitting patterns or car maintenance and stop wasting my eyeballs.
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 07:49
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That's about it......the use of the runways is alternated between landing and take-off under an agreement with local authorities to spread the noise impact, sorry, reduce the average noise impact on each centre-line.

That will disappear, obviously, if mixed-mode operation is introduced at LHR (ie take-offs and landings on both runways throughout the day to enable ATC to maximise the movement rate taking all factors into account) to increase LHR runway capacity, which is why the locals are up in arms against that.

The present alternating use is NOT to reduce wear 'n tear!
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 10:44
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Walking through the cabin with landing cards

"Do we need one of those"?

If you don't have an EU passport then you need to fill one out

"I'm American"

Is your passport?

"Yes"

Then you need to each fill one out

"Ok there are 3 of us, so how many do I need"?




Good luck with the war on terror
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 11:25
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Before you start insulting the people who pay you wages, can I suggest you invest in a dictionary or a spell checker.


Oh the irony..
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Many thanks. Capot.[BBC got that wrong as well as me!!!]
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