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Old 10th Jun 2006, 12:34
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Heya there ppl, just wanting to know if anyone can help me out by calming my nerves a bit with some info about Virgin Blue Recruitment Days. I'm going to an interview this Thursday for it (Cabin Crew- Melbourne), and eventhough I've read their outline of the day, I want to know more (from any of you who have experience this)... is it really competitive? Are there many attractive people there? Are the group performance tasks hard? About how many people attend these days... are we talking 50, 100 or 200? Most importantly, what should I wear? Black pin-stripe pants with a white feminine-sort of shirt alright? And should my medium length blonde hair be tied back in a ponytail or bun? Sleeked back with hairspray, or let loose? Eye liner make-up or not?
And does anyone know if they are biased towards 18-year olds in the bad sense? I have (just) over 3 yrs experience in customer service and am currently working in a library (casual). I'm meant to be completing my yr12 this year, but am willing to go straight into work with Virgin if I really have to... is there any chance that by the time training starts (IF i were to even get THAT far...) it'll have been about 3 months? Because thats when I'll have finished school and graduated... do they measure you on the day, with or without heels?
I'm so worried that I don't stand a chance... I have all the certificates/documents required, all valid... but still, I'm so nervous!
HELP!
PS- is speaking a foreign language and level1 sign language an advantage with Virgin?
Thanks in advance!!
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Unhappy Help.....anyone? Pls??

Surely there has to be someone here that has gone to a VBRD before...?
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hope this helps

gal! you need to chill out, for one reason that the recruitment officers can see right through it, and lets think about it you dont want to have a nervous showing person in an aircraft when something is going wrong.
so lets jsut take a breather...........
now i could work for virgin as cabin crew, i went throuhg the interview process two years ago so i know it has been changed with the layout of it, however they are still looking for the same behavioural things.
1. your not nervous.....remember that, so relax and try and have fun and take it as a learning curve.
2. remember smile smile smile, you HAVE to be approchable.
3. most important......three words remember...........COMMUNICATION, SAFTEY, TEAM WORKING. i'm not going to tell you but think about why those things are important to an airline. what would happen if you didnt have those three things.
4. when your answering the questions they ask you in the one on one interview they will want your answers to be exact......for example......" today i went on the computer and went to the website and found this gal asking questions about vb interview. i then decised to write to her, i did this because i know how it felt when i was going for my first interview." get it???? and remember to relate everything back to those three words.
5. interact as much as you can.........but dont be pushy...........listen to others...but dont sit back and say nothing...do not talk over people........use body language........knod your head when you agree with somone...........praise others..........encourage others.............be confident............remember "you are woman give me power"!!!.......and remember....yes you are competing againsed others but try and work as a team it helps.

Clothing..............personally........suit with skirt.tan stockings. thats jsut my personal oppinion.
Hair..........neat a must. no re-growth. if its really long yes bun it. if its about shoulder length abit longer just a below the nape of the neck. and i know it sounds stupid but put a red,pink,whatever ribbon in it so that your a touch diff to everone else.
Eye makeup............yes, remember your not going clubbing so no pander eyes or smokey eyes. plain black or brown eyeliner with mascara, and lipgloss/stick all day a must. eye shadow if you want but dont over do it.
Age..............you jsut have to be 18. but be a mature 18. if youve travelled on your own,lived on your own that will help so try and incorporate that in your answers.
there might be 100people there. some are nice some are....well you know.
talk to everyone in breaks at the start a must.
remember its like big brother...........someone is always watching you.
dont want to scare you but there may be a recruitment officer that will be "undercover" should we say. so be carefull about what you say to everyone. rememebr everone looks great and do not bitch about anyone.
Dont worry about language.
VCE a must.
Height dont worry.

hope this helps babe. good luck, and chill out!
oh go onto the "anything to do with emarites" bit and go to like pages 70ish and find my post called "how the emarites interview day went in melbourne" the questions vb will ask will be similar to those.
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Hi! I went to a VRD very recently [about 12 days ago] and got through to the last stage. After nearly a week I was told I was unsuccsessful but I think the reason I got so far was a lot down to the threads I read here and the helpful PMs I received up to the day.

I wouldn't say it was overwhelmingly competitive, but that is all down to your attitude. I'm not an overly confident person but decided that the only way I'd be noticed and be successfull was to get myself out there and think positive. It really helped. There are a lot of young girls. In my VRD there was 35 candidates. About 12 of those were male. The age range was approx. 20-25 for girls and it appeared by chatting with all the candidates that the males were about 25-28. Remember this is all on average. Ther ewere 18yo's there too. In talking to the receptionist at the hotel I discovered there was also a VRD the day before ours, the same amount of people present.

I noticed pretty much everyone looked the part. Everyone was neatly groomed, you got your occasional casually dressed person but most were fitted in suits and skirt suits. The appearance of the successfully shortlisted people were a wide range. The guys all wore suits or dress pants and a bright shirt. There was one woman who was CC before this interview and wore black pants and a black shirt, her hair was down, which a lot of girls thought was innapropriate.. but she was very well spoken and calm.. Just goes to show it's the whole package they are after! I know VB had the image of a supermodel airline a few years back, but it's not like that at all! Of the unsuccessful people I was mingling with, I noticed a few things they had in common, they were too confident, and a little 'loud' and said a couple of things they shouldn't have. Your outfit sounds fine, a lot of successful girls were wearing pants etc. I wore a grey plaid pencil skirt, white shirt and black tights/heels. I just tied my hair back in a high ponytail, like most girls. there were a few with buns/french rolls, and as long as your hair isn't sticking to your head with too much product you can wear whatever styling product on it. Fly_away's idea of a red ribbon is a good idea, I had a black one in my hair, and I noticed the DJs girls had these too. Kinda funny coincidence. With makeup, keep your face looking natural, you will see the Recruitment team all have an attractive minimal look. Clear skin, pink lips, natural eyes, some liner and mascara and most importantly, clean, manicured nails.

They don't talk about height at all, although they state on the requirements that you must be between a certain height, I think they can guage that from looking at you quite well. I think if you get to the medical they will measure your height/weight etc officially.

The group performance tasks are not hard at all!!! We did two tasks, one was introducing yourself to the group you are seated in [approx 7 people] and the assesor. Just have some interesting thing to say about yourself, pay attention and don't talk over people. They are looking for people who can fit in without causing interruption, people who sit back are also not favourably looked upon. You will have to present a product/company or idea type thing in front of the rest of the candidates. This is the crucial time where you have to get noticed, it's not about your activity, more about how you all worked together.. the whole time the assesors are writng notes about you, rating you, you have to contribute, they are looking at how you interract, how you presented your idea and the audiences reaction. Be able to laugh at yourself because it gets silly, the things you have to sell are fun.

Any kind of language experience is a plus. But make sure you can walk the walk because if you've said you can speak a language, they will want to see it in action on the spot.

They KNOW you are nervous, even tell them that in your on the spot interview, I had a great lady who was very accomodating, If you feel stuck or need time to collect your answer they are fine with it. They are writing a lot at this point anyway. The 5 min interview is relaxed, you'll be shocked at how nervous you were, afterward. They ask you general questions, remember this part is all about how they read you, what first impressions are you setting for them? They ask about your current work, why you want to be a F/A and why you chose Virgin.

After this stage they send you all away for about 40mins. Whilst we all got coffee, I realised how quickly this process must be for them, if it takes 40mins and there's 35 people, they spend literally one minute discussing you, then they make a decision and move on to the next person. So make sure you say all you want to say!

We came back and were handed letters, a lot of people went home, about 15 of us were asked back in a few hours. There is a role play where you are given a situation you have to solve it and the interview which lasts 45mins. The interview is very chilled out, they ask about certain situations at work, the way you have to answer it is like this: The issue, how you resolved it, the outcome. Try and be aware of that in the interview, they don't want a massive story, just a quick three-four sentence answer. if they require more it is asked of you.

I hope all that helps. if you need anything more PM me.
Good luck!
Have fun!
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Awww... thanks! :)

Heya girls, and xoxoxoxox so much for the replies!! Today I went 'clothes' shopping for the interview together with my bf and we chose these nice/comfortable dressy black pants, a nice white shirt and a torquise fitted jacket. I already have a nice fitted pinstripe suit (skirt & jacket) but don't really like my legs, and would feel more comfortable in pants so I think I'd be k with what I purchased today.
About the language... I speak/write/read Romanian extremely well as both my parents are Romanian and this is all we ever spoke at home, and also I've been to Romania 5 times since 1994, especially now as I got older. Thus, I've been to Italy, Singapore, Hong Kong, Russia, Austria for a few days at a time as it was on our way to Ro.
Sylphie, when you say "they will want to see it in action on the spot" about language, does that mean they will ask me to say some sentence/greeting in Romanian, eventhough they wont understand it? LOL I'll feel like such an idiot, but oh well... whatever I gotta do, I gotta do! And also sign language (my neighbour was deaf and used to teach me as he was also an instructor for Auslan at TAFE), will they probably ask me to sign something too? Do you know this for sure, I mean, did they ask someone to do that there?
And fly_away... you say VCE is a must... well, I'm currently in yr 12 and I figure that by the time training school were to start (once again, wishful thinking that I'd even get so far!!) I'd finish my yr 12 as I only have 14 more weeks left to go and then 4 exams. Do they accept a yr 11 pass? Worst case if I gotta drop out of school, I'm willing to!
And also fly_away, about age... maturity etc... I had to leave home over a year ago, just after I turned 17 as my father was extremely violent to my mother, me and the rest of my siblings due to his religion which dictated he bet us up etc... so ever since I've lived with my bf, I cook and clean as if I am a mother of 10 children, I've been working since I was 15 in customer service, am an A-grade student at my school, recieved scholarships and awards each year, have my very own car/licence and have had manager access to tills at work, the work safe, account details etc, so I'm pretty reliable in a sense, I have no bad history. I guess I never had a choice but to grow up real fast in the last year or so, living out of home.. the only thing I'm worried about is my not having finished VCE yet... but I'll mention that to them, that I figure by the time things go through with Virgin, I'd have finished my yr 12.
Sylphie, did you happen to know of any youngsters (18yrs) or ones that looked about that age, that went through to the second stage?
I'm just nervous here, whilst at home as I tap away on the laptop... but so excited about it too... ever since I first travelled internationally in 1994 (was only 6yrs!) I said to mum and dad pointing to the ladies (F/A) 'when I grow up, I wanna be like them!' lol
Yeh I definately gotta contribute to group activities etc with a positive attitude, whilst at the same time not appear overpowering in the group.
Girls, thanks again for all your help! The only negatives I see at the moment are my height of 156cm and not having finished yr12 yet... and then of course, it all depends on how things go on Thursday... hopefully my language skills and history of customer service will be enough for them to overlook these two obstacles... fingers crossed! Thanks again, you're both angels! xox
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g/day Iulia.let us all know how you get on
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Will let y'all know :)

Fingers crossed for myself and future generations... lol of course I will post info about my day this Thursday..
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Three more sleeps to go!!

til my VBRD!
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Iulia,
You sound like a young lady who has been through a lot in your life and come out the better for it at the other end. I am going to be bold and offer you a little bit of advice.

Flying as cabin crew is not the career it used to be! You will be working long hours in a very physical job. The job will be nasty to your health, social life and home life. We are currently near the end (fingers crossed) of negotiating our new EBA and from what I have seen, and been told in discussion with both the Union and company representatives, the job is about to get a little harder. Please don’t think I am telling you this to scare you off your dream, you will always look back with regret if you don’t follow your heart.

However I am a little concerned that you would be willing to quit school to pursue a flying career. Like I mentioned above flying is not the career it used to be. I would personally hate to see someone with your potential not have something to fall back onto. You may say now that this is the job you want until you retire, I know I had big plans of being the “nanna” on the crew, but over the last few years I have grown into a different person and am currently making plans for a different career not too far in the future.
You mentioned that you only have 14 weeks left until you finish your schooling. Please please please finish. This will be important for getting into cabin crew and very important for any future roles you may wish to pursue within Virgin Blue.

Everything you have listed makes you an excellent candidate for this job and will still put you above the crowd in 14 weeks time. Not to mention, Virgin Blue has some big plans in the not too distant future with an international airline to the USA currently going through feasibility studies. So there will be many opportunities for a long time to come.

I hope you don’t think that I am trying to turn you off the job, it truly is different to anything else out there, but having your education is one of the most important things to start off you life in the “real world”, and when you are so close I would hate to see you give it up.
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Hi Smile, thanks for all your concern! But to put your mind a bit at ease... what I meant by willing to quit school is: IF Virgin says 'nope, you can't do it unless you're available 24/7 immediately' then I will have to quit school, and this is okai because I have a 'back up' plan for this... I'd do yr 12 at TAFE which wont take me long, less than a year in evening classes as I did some year 12 subjects whilst in year 11 last year (therefore, I have previous unit 3&4). In a sense, I'm extremely organised, I never leave things to the last minute and I always anticipate worst case scenarios. For example... this Thursday, if I don't pass the round 1 of the VBRD, I will come back home utilise my day by visiting my local GP as I need to get another perscription from him... and then I'll go visit my old neighbour who is now in a nursing home... thus I am making full use of my day, even if I'll be sad that I didn't pass the round 1. LOL my boyfriend has become a lot like me too and now makes himself sticky note reminders of due dates for bills, events etc just as I do.
Most importantly, I really hope to be able to complete my year 12 as there are just about 14weeks left, and today I spoke to my careers co-ordinator at school (or otherwise known as 'career advisor') and he said that surely Virgin would have no problem with my still being in yr 12 as I'll have completed it by the time they start training school etc (IF i get THAT far!) so I'm not too stressed about the whole education part... another things is that when I applied online, it asked what qualifications I had and whether I had completed it; I put down VCE yr12 and NO for having not yet completed it, and yet Virgin has sent me out an invite to their VBRD... so I guess it musn't be a big deal for them.
Also... my mum gave me a good idea and said that I can defer for one year from going to Uni, and work that year with Virgin so that if worst case, my life becomes horrid, I can always continue with Uni. My back-up plan when it comes to my career, is to become a librarian which I need to go to Uni for 3yrs full-time.
However, my ideal life would be to jump straight into a full-time job as I love being amongst adults and serving the public. Whenever I have a day off from school, or know of a curriculum day in advance, I always email the lady at headquarters of the library where I work and she finds me a shift (to replace someone away/sick) so I can work and make the extra $$$ I need since living away from home.
I have things pretty well planned, and trust me if it really were up to me, I'd love to complete my VCE at my current school. But I doubt that'll be a problem... realistically, by the time Virgin sort through medical reports, make lists of names/students for training school... surely 14 weeks will have passed and I'll have finished VCE.
And another thing is that I don't have this image of life as a F/A being all glamorous, partying in other states etc, in fact, thats not even my style. Even before turning 18 and now after, I don't really enjoy clubbing and rarely go unless its for a special occassion (eg, someone's 21st) but thats not to say I'm some loner or something like that! My bf and I prefer to have our friends over for dinner, pizza/movie nights etc... we're just not into that whole partying scene, we're pretty much settled as a couple.
Smile, can you please tell me (seeing as it seems you work for Virgin etc) whether it does take about 14 weeks after the whole VBRD for them to organise training school? And, is the fact that I'm 18 going to cause any concern to them? It can be said that I have a lot of life experience, and so I'm hoping that they wont be seeing me as an ordinary (stereotypical) 18-yr old girl.
Having worked at the library, meeting people's request, be they strange projects or countries I've never before heard of deep in Africa... I believe I have a lot of knowledge and experience when it comes to customer service, and I hope that the Virgin assesors can see that as an advantage... I mean, how much deeper can a person get when dealing with the public?
Also... my bf wants to know what you mean by the job being nasty to your health... do you mean deep vein thrombosis??
I'm not too concerned about the long hours and standing on my feet... working in retail I used to wear heels even on my 12-hour shifts believe it or not
But Smile I want to say once again a big thanks, and I'd really appreciate it if you do manage to reply to my queries... preferably by this Thursday!
xoxox!
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Hi Iulia,
check your PM
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Talking Check your PM's

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thankssssssss! xoxoxox
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Iulia best of luck there. Smile makes some very good points regarding your schooling however as you said you can complete it via TAFE. No different to the many who complete UNI degrees etc while on the job.

Great company to work for with plenty of ups and downs but always there to support your growth onwards and upwards so long as you have to drive and ambition to do so. I have done this through 2 different departments and about to embark on yet another!

Anyway like the others we are looking forward to hear how you went so you go girl!
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Also... my bf wants to know what you mean by the job being nasty to your health... do you mean deep vein thrombosis??
DVT is one but not that common, at least I haven't heard of many FA's sufferring from it. Things like the drying of your skin/hair. Tiredness from being overworked. Being susceptible to colds and other airborne ailments. Those kind of things are more common.

But you can do heaps to prevent or treat these problems.
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One more sleeeeep! :)

Look at me... I'm like a kid counting down the nights til Christmas! lol

Well 'Dookie on Drums' TAFE is definately a last resort/back-up... though tis preferable for me to finish HS in the next 14 weeks at my current school... but who knows! There's no shame in completing my VCE via TAFE anyway, and I'd have to do less subjects than I'm doing currently because its at TAFE, so thats like a bonus. But, I don't want to think about that at the moment...

Hmm... DVT... well at least as Sylphie says some measures can be taken to prevent or even treat health problems caused by being a F/A... namely... I'd have to get my butt into gear and go to a gym! lol if they were to tell me "you've got the job, so long as you work out at least 3hrs at the gym everynight" I'd do it! haha And mind you... this is me who used to skip PE classes is junior years...

Anyway... very thankful to you all for your posts! I'll be as attentive as possible tomorrow, and hoepfully come back with more info for any future F/A wannabes... everyone's been so helpful!
Thankyou again!
xoxox meeeeeeeee
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Iulia...

you don't have to become a gym freak to stay healthy

Just do the normal stuff to achieve a good level of fittness - go for walks or jogs on your layovers, take your vitimins, and eat well. Take your own food to eat at work - much better than that yuk airline food

Plus the job keeps you pretty fit too, being on your feet a lot. Much better than sitting behind a desk!

So relax!! Just concentrate on your application. Don't worry about the hazards of the job - they're pretty easy to avoid. I've had less illness during my 7 years in the air than at any other time in my life.

Good luck.
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Dont quote me and i dont knwo for sure in black and white ink but as far as i know you have to have VCE, however virgin is open to new people and new things.....give them a reason to want you.....tell them that you have A-grades, your a high achiever, your responsible etc. make them want you.

i think that you have a good asset when you talk about looking after your brothers and sisters being pretty much a mother to them....good on you girl thats fantastic i admire people like you, if you get the oppertunity tell them that, that shows that your pretty dam resopnsible and that no problem is too big for you. if you do let them know about that they will ask you how you will cope in a shift work job looking after your sibilings. so it could and could not work in your favour.

look it sounds like your pretty well driven to me so go in with confidence and let them know that . i do agree with the advise that 'smile' gave you, it is important to have VCE. you may not think its important now but years down the track you'll regret if you gave it up. and in this industry there is a very high turnover of people so an airline will be recruiting all the time.

it cant hurt to go to the interview, each one i have been to ive learnt so much about what they are looking for and even learnt so much about myself, however i'm pretty sure once you get through to a certain stage you cant apply again until a year later so think about that too.
Id definatelly take into consideration what 'smile' said, she sounds like she knows what she talking about,with the EBA etc, and if shes talking to the union shes getting pretty useful information. thats comming from me who is not in the union and there has been many times when i have needed their help or advise.

good luck babe!

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Awww... fly_away thats really sweet of you, but I must correct an error I seem to have made... when I said "I cook and clean as if I am a mother of 10 children" I meant it in the sense that I'm a very hard worker in my house, I don't like takeaway, rather I prefer my own casseroles and roasts with loads of vegetables and salads. My sister is 24yrs and married with two children (though often I have baby sat them as I have my own home [rent]) and my eldest brother is 22yrs also married, and with two children (have his youngest over at my place for nights on most weekends). And then I have a younger brother who is 15yrs and still living with my parents.
Children are beautiful, be they black, yellow, red or white (as the song goes), and I love all of my neices and nephews very much. In the job description with Virgin it says something about having to do face painting, and nanny up to 8 unaccompanied minors- this would be a pleasure.
I enjoy working amongst adults very much, whilst at the same time like to see the smile on a childs face when I hand them something etc, this is what draws me to customer service. I enjoy the face to face interaction which I've been having in the last 3yrs of working, and I believe that working for Virgin Blue would definately be an enjoyable company, and even more, given the chance to travel!
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you go gal any way!!

give it your best shot, if you dont get it the first time go for it again and again until you get what you want. dotn give up on something you've always wanted because then you would be selling yourself short and remember as i believe in...your telling your story so dont let anyone write it for you.
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Hehehe thanks am going to cook dinner now, and afterwards get my bf to do the dishes as I gotta iron my outfit for tomorrow lol i get out of doing dishes tonight, he has no choice!
Me feeling sick, occassional headspins... I don't understand why I'm so nervous! I think its the fact that I gotta wait another 12mnths if things don't go right tomorrow... bummer...
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