BA Cabin Crew...bring on the laughing stock!

[Flying_Sarah747]

So it's ok for people to have a go at my airline, but when I stand up for us I'm rude, pompous and ignorant!

That's fair!

[BYMONEK]

Why lower yourself to other peoples level?. If you want to defend against the 'BA bashers' ( and I know there are many), rise above the bait and give a valid argument. Slating others will not endear you to many here and will dilute your credibility in reasoning. Your inclusion of salaries merely weakens your own argument about defending BA's pay structure. People out there already feel that as Cabin Crew you're overpaid and you've strengthened that belief.

I know from experience that although important, it's not just the money that makes BA the most sort after. It's the terms and conditions that play a huge part as well.

Regards

BYMONEK

[nurjio]

The "statistical data" compiled by the CAA to highlight comparative average pay rates just proves that the BA CC high-end earners are vastly overp.............zzzzzzzzzzz

230 all out.

[flyer55]

I totally disagree with BA Crew being paid too much are these figures based on LHR based crew , who are on different contracts from LGW crew mainly EF LGW !

[Birds2perches]

Please don't take my comment the wrong way flyer as I'm really not into all this personal slatery. The forum is here for people to express their views, but would you in all honesty, turn down a job at BA because you disapprove of the fact that they're paid more than others in the business. After all, aren't we here to earn good money? Yes, we like our jobs too but I for one, am going to seek the contact that pays the most. And, I'm on the new one which is pretty good. The new absense policy isn't that bad either as someone said earlier.

[flyer55]

I wont take it the wrong way but think ALL Cabin Crew should should be paid a decent amount as they deserve it and Insurance Companies seemingly rate Cabin Crew as a High Risk Job!

[Carnage Matey!]

I'd agree, I've seen the way most of you drive. In terms of risk to your lives, well I suppose you could die of boredom sitting in Compass all day!

[TightSlot]

Light blue touch paper and retire a safe distance, eh Carnage?

[flybywire]

Carnage Matey wrote:

Where did you dig out the £10k to £15K figure? Most new contract are on basic of around £9 to £10.5K but we all know that nobody on EF takes home less than £1500 pcm unless they're having a really bad month, which works out at an annual equivalent salary of around £22K to £25K, which is rather good money I think.

I am assuming you are talking about LHR.

[Rescue 137]

Have to agree with Bymonek here.Sarah you wasnt defending BA with your comment,you was slagging everybody else off who works for any other airline other than BA as a fool.Not a great comment and likely to win you any favours or support.Up until that Point I tend to agree with BA crew. Sarah that makes me think that you think you are Eliteist and better than any other person who works for any other airline.


Just because you work for BA doesnt make you any better person than someone who works for Virgin.BA has a lot of older CC who have been in BA years on the old contracts.Virgin is only 20 years old and I dont think there is a 20 year Veteran CC there so the figures dont give a correct representative.

Did you know the Average London Wage is £32,000 pound a year.How many peope do you know earn that amount of money a year.Figures arent always correct or show the whole truth.

[Flying_Sarah747]

Ok, fair enough, I apologise for that comment, but I meant it as in that anyone in their right mind would want the position with the most money, just didn't quite say it right maybe.

[Badly Dressed Nigel]

I have to say I continue to be amazed at the attention that BA CC and our alleged renumeration attracts.
It is as if you are offended by our our pay and conditions. If this is indeed the case, take a deep breath, and get over it.

If you wish to apply, join the massive queue.


Oh, and our acceptance of EG300 is a sensible decision given the present climate at BA. It leaves us free to fight other battles as they present themselves.
If you have read recent media reports, Mr Walsh has started a cull of senior managers within BA, hence it is prudent to take a back seat for the time being.

For all the jealousy, and sniping at BA CC, wouldn't you rather work for a workforce that is protected by a strong union, or would you rather work for one looked after by CC89?

[Hand Solo]

After months of extensive negotiation and vociferous opposition BASSA ended up with exactly the same AMP that the rest of the company negotiated some months earlier. I'd rather have CC89 negotiating!

Now where did the CSD on the A321 go?

[ChewyTheWookie]

Where did BA's dream of fixed links go? I think the A321 CSD might have taken them when they left...

[apaddyinuk]

I always have to laugh at how people GENERALISE BA crew as being overpaid. Forget old contract now as it is indeed in the minority to the new contract which I am on.

I live in London which we all know as being one of the most expensive cities in Europe if not the world, I certainly do not live beyond my means but I still barely scrape by each month as I need to have a car and I rent. I certainly can not afford to place a morgage for anything within a few hundred miles of my report base which is just impracticle. I also pay a lot more for my staff travel than most other airlines do!!!!

Now I know I could not survive on what some crew with other airlines earn and fair play to those who make it work for them. I certainly would not be in this job if there was a set standard of pay industry wide which matched some of BA's competition.

Now all of us here (except all the BA bashers who probably are not even crew themselves but just like sticking it to the big guy)know that our job is a fair bit harder than just dishing out a few meals at 30000 feet. If the average london salary is £32000 then I am certainly under this (and I am worldwide LHR crew) so think of it this way......Im not overpaid.....perhaps all the rest of you are UNDERPAID!!!! I personally think you are! I was lucky that I got BA, You could be lucky and apply for them too for the money,if the moneys not important to you then quit complaining!

[ifleeplanes]

I find it interesting that the average BA CC salary is more than many pilots get paid in other airlines and companies....

[apaddyinuk]

Ifeeplanes....tell me, which airlines would that be? In that case these airlines obviously pay their pilots less then what rail companies pay their train drivers....I suggest that if you want any credibility on this website that you should perhaps provide facts for your crazy statements as the one above is a lie!!! And also remember what I said about OLD contract crew being the minority now compared to NEW contract crew whom I am sure do not earn anything near what most western airlines pay their fully trained pilots!!!!

HOWEVER, If you are referring to the minority of the crew who are on old contract then yes, there are some who are on more than even some of BA's own first officers but these crew certainly do not make up the average wage for the rest of us. But can you blame them for joining a company back in the age when perhaps this was an acceptable salary for a flight attendant? No I dont think you can, they were lucky to have joined when they did and no amount of petty jealous bitching should be allowed to take that away from them!!!

[OzzieO]

What really amazes me about this forum and the "BA BASHERS" is that people actually take the bait time after time!

Let them have there little rant, let them bash BA cabin crew to their hearts content, makes them feel better for having really dull boring lives........and tiny dicks.

[ifleeplanes]

APADDYINUK...have a look at the salaries of the air taxi pilots, the flight instructor pilots, many of the turbo prop operators, the new joiners into some of the low cost airlines. These are guys and gals who have often paid out £50000-£60000 to get their licenses in the first place, and often nowdays a further £20,000 + for a type rating.

For your info ( and my credibility....

BA Cityexpress Turboprob FO year 1 20,808 - Year 12 £29,589
Air Southwest FO Year 1 £18000 -Year 5 £27053
Air Wales FO Base £28000
Eastern Airlines FO Year 1 £18160 -Top £28790
Flightline FO £29400 plus £750 pa in service
FlyBE FO Year 1 £26191 Year 15 £34066
Logan Air FO Year 1 £21950 Year 12 £27300

and many many more

Its your guys/gals that are making quotes of £27k plus on here...Im just a bystander reading it....but it does nothing for your cause or credibility when your earning way more than other airlines CC and more than many pilots.

Good luck to you with your salary, I am pleased for you , it was mearly an observation I was making. Most of the cabin crew in airlines I have ever come across seem to earn a pittance.

[EI-CFC]

In fairness, none of those airlines come near touching BA in terms of scale..