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malachy, all the best at BA Gatwick. I know a lot of people there and I know I'm a lot happier at Astraeus than they are at BA LGW.
All this goes to show is that everyone has an airline that is "right" for you. Many people enjoy Astraeus. Some people do not. Many people probably enjoy BA. Some people do not. It's a question of what provides the right balance of roster, pay, fun, recognition by your managers for what you do and variety to suit the life that you want to live. Everyone will have their own view of the "right" balance and if Astraeus wasn't for you, so be it. Draw a line under the experience and move on. I know I did when I left BA, but I'm fortunate to still have a lot of good friends from the time I spent there and I don't feel the need to keep talking about something in the past.
All this goes to show is that everyone has an airline that is "right" for you. Many people enjoy Astraeus. Some people do not. Many people probably enjoy BA. Some people do not. It's a question of what provides the right balance of roster, pay, fun, recognition by your managers for what you do and variety to suit the life that you want to live. Everyone will have their own view of the "right" balance and if Astraeus wasn't for you, so be it. Draw a line under the experience and move on. I know I did when I left BA, but I'm fortunate to still have a lot of good friends from the time I spent there and I don't feel the need to keep talking about something in the past.
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Im sure everyone agrees that not every airline is for everybody, but the general feelings regarding AEU are generally not good!
Im sure it has no doubt improved since my season a few years ago, but from friends who have gone there just to fly for the winter season after charter, they have been anything but happy and are struggling to carry on till April, when their bond expires.
They will always have a busy programme, because they do all the routes which no one else will do, which is fair play because its certainly a niche market!
Flyjet used to be run on a similar line, but has improved no end and the Astraeus hierarchy that used to run strong there has diminshed, and overall I hear is a lot better deal than Astraeus.
So perhaps you should try FJE? Yes there a/c go tech etc etc but they seem a lot happier.
Im sure it has no doubt improved since my season a few years ago, but from friends who have gone there just to fly for the winter season after charter, they have been anything but happy and are struggling to carry on till April, when their bond expires.
They will always have a busy programme, because they do all the routes which no one else will do, which is fair play because its certainly a niche market!
Flyjet used to be run on a similar line, but has improved no end and the Astraeus hierarchy that used to run strong there has diminshed, and overall I hear is a lot better deal than Astraeus.
So perhaps you should try FJE? Yes there a/c go tech etc etc but they seem a lot happier.
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Hostessmostess
Wrong.
You said "but the general feelings regarding AEU are generally not good!
So far in this thread we've had you, Malachy8985 and vaboy criticise AEU and Jalite, SPFlyer, jcx, Alberville and Flyhalf support the airline.
So... with 3 negative posters and 5 positive posters, the general feelings regarding AEU are generally good.
Wrong.
You said "but the general feelings regarding AEU are generally not good!
So far in this thread we've had you, Malachy8985 and vaboy criticise AEU and Jalite, SPFlyer, jcx, Alberville and Flyhalf support the airline.
So... with 3 negative posters and 5 positive posters, the general feelings regarding AEU are generally good.
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I Joined AEU last year and I think it is a good little airline, I have worked for others before but each airline I have worked for have their good and bad points, no airline is perfect and Astraeus is far from being perfect. Not saying that in a bad way in the slightest - we all need something to moan about in our jobs don't we!!!!
Astraeus is a good airline and if anyone was thinking of applying then go for it. The crew are great, the trainers are good fun, and the cabin crew manager is a good laugh as well. who cares about a bond, six months flys by in no time anyway and if you leave before you six months is up then AEU probably don't want people like you anyway.
Granted the money could be better but as someone said before "moneys isn't everything" it is enough to get by, but what airline will make a flight attendant rich these days????
Gaz
Astraeus is a good airline and if anyone was thinking of applying then go for it. The crew are great, the trainers are good fun, and the cabin crew manager is a good laugh as well. who cares about a bond, six months flys by in no time anyway and if you leave before you six months is up then AEU probably don't want people like you anyway.
Granted the money could be better but as someone said before "moneys isn't everything" it is enough to get by, but what airline will make a flight attendant rich these days????
Gaz
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Hi,
Like it has been said before, surely no airline is "perfect", someone is bound to have a different opinion it's the only way to have a balanced view, but please let's be rational when we expose our views even though this is an anonymous forum.
I don't work for Astraeus but I had the pleasure of meeting some members for the said airline, the general feeling I get from them is that they are enjoying the flying they do work hard, but like one of them said it is enjoyable and the money is reasonable, if you are climbing the ladder Astraeus is worth a go.
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Airway
Like it has been said before, surely no airline is "perfect", someone is bound to have a different opinion it's the only way to have a balanced view, but please let's be rational when we expose our views even though this is an anonymous forum.
I don't work for Astraeus but I had the pleasure of meeting some members for the said airline, the general feeling I get from them is that they are enjoying the flying they do work hard, but like one of them said it is enjoyable and the money is reasonable, if you are climbing the ladder Astraeus is worth a go.
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Airway
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Thanks for your comments everyone. I think the truth seems to be that cabin crew are underpaid everywhere. (Even Richard Branson only gets rich because he pays his staff badly). Astraeus perhaps aren't the only guilty ones?
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Vaboy,
I see you are soon to start a job with Virgin.
Would they have employed you if you had not previous flying experience with AEU. Maybe, maybe not.
But the fact you have experience definately counts for something.
Maybe you shouldn't call them such a sh1t airline after all eh??
How-about a thank you and move quietly on your way....??
I see you are soon to start a job with Virgin.
Would they have employed you if you had not previous flying experience with AEU. Maybe, maybe not.
But the fact you have experience definately counts for something.
Maybe you shouldn't call them such a sh1t airline after all eh??
How-about a thank you and move quietly on your way....??
vaboy, best of luck. I don't quite follow your comments back to Gareth Blackstock though, who was simply stating his own opinion and I really can't see why you have jumped down his throat for doing so.
Hostessmostess, I see you haven't chosen to justify your comments about the Lotus A319. Care to do so, or are you happy for a mildly slanderous comment like that to sit there with your name against it whilst you find other reasons for mud-slinging?
Hostessmostess, I see you haven't chosen to justify your comments about the Lotus A319. Care to do so, or are you happy for a mildly slanderous comment like that to sit there with your name against it whilst you find other reasons for mud-slinging?
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Yes, I would agree with the negative posters on here.
We work awfully long hours
We work our butts off in the summer
We fly to some of the most mosquito infested places in the world
We operate mainly niche-market flights
We are bonded initially
We all have our bad days
but I would'nt change a single thing!!!
The people make Astraeus, and the flying is 'different'. Who wants to go to the same old bucket and spade places all year round anyway, not I!
Regards
Mike
We work awfully long hours
We work our butts off in the summer
We fly to some of the most mosquito infested places in the world
We operate mainly niche-market flights
We are bonded initially
We all have our bad days
but I would'nt change a single thing!!!
The people make Astraeus, and the flying is 'different'. Who wants to go to the same old bucket and spade places all year round anyway, not I!
Regards
Mike
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hehe!
Thanks!!
Managed to get my 75 check flight in before my leave, so will take tommorrow as an opportunity to have a second go, as you know, you gotta be on the ball for an HME!
Regards
Mike
Thanks!!
Managed to get my 75 check flight in before my leave, so will take tommorrow as an opportunity to have a second go, as you know, you gotta be on the ball for an HME!
Regards
Mike
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Lissy - The pay review for this year is starting very soon, so in agreement to some the others the pay at the moment is not great but will be changing. The summer is looking like another busy one down in LGW.
To those of you who have negative things to say about the airline, it didn't really answer Lissy's question, I'm sure if Lissy gets a job with the airline will beable to make up he/shes own mind.
HostessMostess - Heard you were only with the airline 4 months from when it first started and then went AWOL. Was you expecting it all to be sweetness and roses and not have teething problems because you must have been living in a dream world!
Vaboy - I know you didn't enjoy your time here and i hope that your new airline lives up to your expectations.
To those of you who have negative things to say about the airline, it didn't really answer Lissy's question, I'm sure if Lissy gets a job with the airline will beable to make up he/shes own mind.
HostessMostess - Heard you were only with the airline 4 months from when it first started and then went AWOL. Was you expecting it all to be sweetness and roses and not have teething problems because you must have been living in a dream world!
Vaboy - I know you didn't enjoy your time here and i hope that your new airline lives up to your expectations.
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Hostessmostess - if you are who I / we suspect you are (SS?) you did indeed work for four months with Astraeus; but during which you also went AWOL for up to a week at a time - something which resulted in a member of cabin crew management personally going around to your house to check that you hadn’t been bumped off (as no-one could contact you); and you didn’t bother turning up to collect your ID card; and left the company without providing or working a notice period. Isn't that right ? ( assuming it's you, eh, SS? )
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Just a clarification:
This is not possible. Only the originator of a thread or a Moderator can do it. Nor he can dictate if a thread must be deleted because he doesn't like it. If in the past a thread or a post has been removed (which I don't remember but I can find out) it was because it made allegations that could be qualified as libel, or because it was negative without being factual. Let me explain. You are entitled to your opinion, but you can't say "airline XYZ are bad". You must specify something like "XYZ's crewing office is bad, they keep calling you on days off", etc. In any case it must be facts upon which people can form their own idea. Also, if nobody knows what you are talking about, nobody can give an explanation about why they happen or if they are still happening since you witnessed them, and it's very unfair towards the person or entity that cannot defend itself.
Also, being negative without facts does not give a good impression of the reason you could (maybe rightly) have...
you delete the thread
Also, being negative without facts does not give a good impression of the reason you could (maybe rightly) have...
May I, as someone who travelled with Astraeus last year on a charter flight to Ukraine, express an opinion?
The cabin crew on the outbound flight were less than interested in the passengers, because, by their own admission, they had been'out' the night before, and were feeling hung over.
The return flight was delayed because the ground staff at Simferopol had neither the equipment nor the experience to deal with the aircraft. At no time before or during the return flight of four and a half hours did the captain bother to communicate with the passengers.
I did send an e-mail to Astraeus, and was promised the matter would be looked into, but never heard any more.
On arrival at Gatwick, the baggage took one and a half hours to arrive 'because the ramp staff were busy'. Not directly Astraeus' fault, but then they choose the handling agent, not the other way round. As a result of this, I lost the last flight to Manchester, and had to pay for an overnight @ LGW, and extra to BA for the flight the next day. And, no the insurance wouldn't pay up.
My complaint to Aviance resulted in an offer to visit their lounge next time I'm in LGW. Frankly, if that's any time within the next five years, it'll be too soon. And I certainly wouldn't fly with Astraeus again.
The cabin crew on the outbound flight were less than interested in the passengers, because, by their own admission, they had been'out' the night before, and were feeling hung over.
The return flight was delayed because the ground staff at Simferopol had neither the equipment nor the experience to deal with the aircraft. At no time before or during the return flight of four and a half hours did the captain bother to communicate with the passengers.
I did send an e-mail to Astraeus, and was promised the matter would be looked into, but never heard any more.
On arrival at Gatwick, the baggage took one and a half hours to arrive 'because the ramp staff were busy'. Not directly Astraeus' fault, but then they choose the handling agent, not the other way round. As a result of this, I lost the last flight to Manchester, and had to pay for an overnight @ LGW, and extra to BA for the flight the next day. And, no the insurance wouldn't pay up.
My complaint to Aviance resulted in an offer to visit their lounge next time I'm in LGW. Frankly, if that's any time within the next five years, it'll be too soon. And I certainly wouldn't fly with Astraeus again.
