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Can anyone tell me about Pacific Blue please. Do they take on FAs for full time positions,are they day trips or o/nights,what is the pay rate like etc. Any info would be great thanks.
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Recently attended interviews for Pacific Blue in CHC. The salary is a measly $23,000NZD a year including all allowances. Crews currently only get one overnight a week in Wellington with all trips to Australian capitals being day trips ie chc - mel - chc but that will change I am sure. They are adding flights to desitnations such as fiji but was not clear if they would be new zealand based crew or exsisting virgin blue crew.. maybe some DJ crew could shed some light.
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As crew for PB, I can tell you that the base salary is more than what you've quoted there, and then you add the allowances on top of that. I dont agree with posting up the actual earnings, as there should be SOME dignity left - but do know that we are certainly comfortable on what we earn.
We fly only a maximum of 12-13 days a month, yes, mainly daytrips at the moment - usually one WLG overnight a week, however as of SEP we begin going on up to 6 day trips with BNE and MEL overnights starting also.
New Zealand based Pacific Blue crew will be operating ALL international sectors, including flights from Australia to Fiji and Vanuatu
Fantastic company, amazing culture, and real stars to work with.
LOVE IT
We fly only a maximum of 12-13 days a month, yes, mainly daytrips at the moment - usually one WLG overnight a week, however as of SEP we begin going on up to 6 day trips with BNE and MEL overnights starting also.
New Zealand based Pacific Blue crew will be operating ALL international sectors, including flights from Australia to Fiji and Vanuatu
Fantastic company, amazing culture, and real stars to work with.
LOVE IT
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That's interesting, i agree, salaries etc shouldn't be advertised. I bet the Virgin Blue crew (Australia based) aren't happy that the NZ based Pacific Blue crew will be doing the international flying even out of Australia, i presume this is because they don't have to pay the NZ based crew as much??? (No offence meant)!
Just one question, why have i seen a couple of Pacific Blue's aircraft over in Perth? Is this because Virgin Blue are short of aircraft and were just borrowing?
Just one question, why have i seen a couple of Pacific Blue's aircraft over in Perth? Is this because Virgin Blue are short of aircraft and were just borrowing?
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No we were not particuarly happy that all the international flying was being done out of CHC, especially when we had been working towards it for so long... but hey at the end of the day if you gotta eat sh*t you gotta eat sh*t, and we welcome our Pacific "Bro's" with open arms and look forward to seeing them on BNE/MEL overnights...
As far as the Pacific Blue a/c that you have seen in Perth, they are all VH registered ones. I believe (open to correction) that Pacific Blue is operating ZK-PBA and ZK-PBC at the moment (ex virginblue VH-VOO and VH-VOQ, again open to correction). VirginBlue are still operating I think 2 737-800's that are done up in Pac Blue livery and VH registered (VH-VOP/VH-VOR?). From what I understand, those aircraft will be doing some of the international flying out of australia, but CHC based cabin crew, and potentially some aussie tech crew? From what I have heard there is now a separate company registered as Pacific Blue Australia...
All of this is open to correction though, does anyone from CHC have any input?
As far as the Pacific Blue a/c that you have seen in Perth, they are all VH registered ones. I believe (open to correction) that Pacific Blue is operating ZK-PBA and ZK-PBC at the moment (ex virginblue VH-VOO and VH-VOQ, again open to correction). VirginBlue are still operating I think 2 737-800's that are done up in Pac Blue livery and VH registered (VH-VOP/VH-VOR?). From what I understand, those aircraft will be doing some of the international flying out of australia, but CHC based cabin crew, and potentially some aussie tech crew? From what I have heard there is now a separate company registered as Pacific Blue Australia...
All of this is open to correction though, does anyone from CHC have any input?
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To be perfectly honest with you I am not at all upset that we at the 'Virgin' branch of "Blue" are not doing the international flying.
The pay rise that comes with the international flying means that I will actually be taking home less in my pay thanks to the taxman. NO THANKS
And seeing as all the flying is still in 737's it's not like I get the benefit of learning a new aircraft, or different style of service. I am sure that the novelty would wear off pretty quickly.
HOWEVER.... as we are all part of the big "Blue" family I still have my staff travel rights etc so I am pretty happy with that.
(N.B I reserve the right to change my mind about any of the above comments in a years time when the new EBA comes my way.) 
The pay rise that comes with the international flying means that I will actually be taking home less in my pay thanks to the taxman. NO THANKS
And seeing as all the flying is still in 737's it's not like I get the benefit of learning a new aircraft, or different style of service. I am sure that the novelty would wear off pretty quickly.
HOWEVER.... as we are all part of the big "Blue" family I still have my staff travel rights etc so I am pretty happy with that.
(N.B I reserve the right to change my mind about any of the above comments in a years time when the new EBA comes my way.)
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Yes, ZK-PBA and ZK-PBC are the aircraft that Pacblue are operating, PBA was originally VH-VOO, however PBC came straight out of the factory. You are correct also in saying that there are 2 or 3 other PacBlue liveried aircraft flying the friendly skies domestically around australia for VB, these aircraft will eventually come offline from VB and become ZK-PB? registered aircraft for pacific blue.
All very confusing, but all works in the end!
As for VB getting their noses out of joint about PB doing the intl flying: As part of our Cabin crew training, we worked for Virgin Blue, and we were welcomed with open arms. Having worked for both "Blue" airlines, (ie domestically and internationally) i can honestly say that there is absolutely no difference between the two, apart from the services being MUCH busier, and the access to Duty Free purchases... other than that, it doesnt matter where you fly to! However though, I certainly love it, and will be with the company for many years. I mean, show you're determined, and you can get to where you want to go - without waiting 10 years...
and like Smile mentioned... you get to enjoy the benefits of both companies!
All very confusing, but all works in the end!
As for VB getting their noses out of joint about PB doing the intl flying: As part of our Cabin crew training, we worked for Virgin Blue, and we were welcomed with open arms. Having worked for both "Blue" airlines, (ie domestically and internationally) i can honestly say that there is absolutely no difference between the two, apart from the services being MUCH busier, and the access to Duty Free purchases... other than that, it doesnt matter where you fly to! However though, I certainly love it, and will be with the company for many years. I mean, show you're determined, and you can get to where you want to go - without waiting 10 years...
and like Smile mentioned... you get to enjoy the benefits of both companies!
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I have been promoted to Cabin Supervisor, and Cabin Crew Trainer all within 8 months of starting my flying career.
No disrespect to the poster who made the comment, I am referring to the rapid growth of the company which results in inexperienced crew operating in roles requiring more knowledge, experience and responsibility
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sydgirl: I can assure you that the people who have been promoted are more than capable of fulfilling the role of Cabin Supervisor. It is a VERY rigorous process involved, so please rest assured that you'll be in very safe hands on one of our flights. People are selected for their experience and management skills; so bring that (be it from other jobs or from within the company itself) to their newly appointed positions.
Smile: I look forward to that chat lol! Cant wait to see you again when we begin our BNE overnights from SEP. I didnt necessarily say we work harder, i just said the services were busier! we work just as hard as yourself! lol
tB
Smile: I look forward to that chat lol! Cant wait to see you again when we begin our BNE overnights from SEP. I didnt necessarily say we work harder, i just said the services were busier! we work just as hard as yourself! lol
tB
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I believe VOQ is still flying to/from Perth, at least as of about a week ago.
There have been one or two a/c with the Pacific Blue logo out there that appeared to be neither OP or OQ, but have yet to get a look at the regos....
Was wondering where VOO had got to!!
SS
There have been one or two a/c with the Pacific Blue logo out there that appeared to be neither OP or OQ, but have yet to get a look at the regos....
Was wondering where VOO had got to!!
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TrafficBoy
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Yeah, right, so you reckon you can be an on board manager of other crew, and someone guests can have confidence in, when you've been flying for all of 8 months????
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!
Well, TrafficBoy, from my experience flying around all the world, there is more to Virgin Flair than flushing bog rolls down the toilet.
It takes a little more than 8 months to become a leader.
This is what you will learn, I'm sure, as time goes by.
Good luck.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Yeah, right, so you reckon you can be an on board manager of other crew, and someone guests can have confidence in, when you've been flying for all of 8 months????
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!
Well, TrafficBoy, from my experience flying around all the world, there is more to Virgin Flair than flushing bog rolls down the toilet.
It takes a little more than 8 months to become a leader.
This is what you will learn, I'm sure, as time goes by.
Good luck.
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Fair Go,
If only your name also displayed that area of your personality too.
Virgin is not the only airline to recruit On-board managers with little flying experience, many other, much larger, full service carriers do too.
Being an on-board manager is not just about how much experience you have with an airline, it's about your prior life experience, your prior career experience, your suitability to the position and your leadership qualities.
Some 22 year olds, with 3 months flying experience can make much better on-board managers then a 45 year old with 20 years flying experience.
There is a sincere difference between leaders and managers, leaders are respected for who they are and for their chosen ability to do their job. You're right, it takes a lot more then 8 months to be a leader, it takes a whole life of experience and a whole range of personality qualities. Your comment shows a clear lack of understanding of what a leader even is.
I think it's fantastic that airlines are choosing to recoginise employees for their past experiences and their abilities, as apposed to who is "next on the list". By empowering these people, they are showing the true spirit of their airline, to their own people and their passengers.
If only all divisions, of all airlines were like this, perhaps the on-board service and mood would be what it should be.
So Traffic Boy, I'd just ignore the opinions of days gone by, you should be proud of your achievement and I'm sure you're an inspiration to other crew.
If only your name also displayed that area of your personality too.
Virgin is not the only airline to recruit On-board managers with little flying experience, many other, much larger, full service carriers do too.
Being an on-board manager is not just about how much experience you have with an airline, it's about your prior life experience, your prior career experience, your suitability to the position and your leadership qualities.
Some 22 year olds, with 3 months flying experience can make much better on-board managers then a 45 year old with 20 years flying experience.
There is a sincere difference between leaders and managers, leaders are respected for who they are and for their chosen ability to do their job. You're right, it takes a lot more then 8 months to be a leader, it takes a whole life of experience and a whole range of personality qualities. Your comment shows a clear lack of understanding of what a leader even is.
I think it's fantastic that airlines are choosing to recoginise employees for their past experiences and their abilities, as apposed to who is "next on the list". By empowering these people, they are showing the true spirit of their airline, to their own people and their passengers.
If only all divisions, of all airlines were like this, perhaps the on-board service and mood would be what it should be.
So Traffic Boy, I'd just ignore the opinions of days gone by, you should be proud of your achievement and I'm sure you're an inspiration to other crew.
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I have to agree 100% with fair go. From my experience in aviation, I strongly strongly believe (and have seen concrete proof multiple times) that experience DOES NOT equate to competence! I have flown with crew 10 years my senior in both age and flying experience who are, for want of a better way to put it, DUMB AS DOGSH*T!
FairGo I am sorry - you are entitled to your opinion - but in this case I believe you are very wrong....
FairGo I am sorry - you are entitled to your opinion - but in this case I believe you are very wrong....
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