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ms singyou.
Oh please!
your posting has me laughing my tits off. What c**p you spin!
Polypocket has expressed their opinion, as have others on pprune. True crews have their first experienced of the job at bmi, who then move fairly quickly on to other airlines.
You seem to want to slag BA down for poor service or something like that. At the end of the day crew want a decent salary and terms and conditions of work. bmi offer neither compared to BA, and do you really think that BA offers that poorer service? If it was that bad BA would have no paxs, flights would be empty! Well, something must be right coz most of the flights are full!
Of course people want better...and even if bmi do offer better service unfortuately whatever attitude you seem to have of the crews at BA, I`m sure I`d win any bet given a chance that 80% or more of LHR crew would rather be else where.
Oh please!
your posting has me laughing my tits off. What c**p you spin! Polypocket has expressed their opinion, as have others on pprune. True crews have their first experienced of the job at bmi, who then move fairly quickly on to other airlines.
You seem to want to slag BA down for poor service or something like that. At the end of the day crew want a decent salary and terms and conditions of work. bmi offer neither compared to BA, and do you really think that BA offers that poorer service? If it was that bad BA would have no paxs, flights would be empty! Well, something must be right coz most of the flights are full!
Of course people want better...and even if bmi do offer better service unfortuately whatever attitude you seem to have of the crews at BA, I`m sure I`d win any bet given a chance that 80% or more of LHR crew would rather be else where.
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Well really ms singyou,I've heard it all now.I'll have you know I've worked for B.A for 20 years and have always done my job to the best of my ability, as do, I might add,the vast majority of the people I work with.Maybe you have had some kind of ''bad experience'' with B.A but please don't tar all British Airways cabin crews with the same brush.
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opps, did i say that?
mmm, please accept my applogies.
maybe i should clarify.
of late, i have met so many people who want to slag down bmi for the same reason as polly pocket and it makes me wonder what it would be like to work with that sort of mentality at other airline in particular, BA.
i have worked for a few airlines in my time and yes of course, its very unfair of me to say or imply that everyone is the same.
for that it was not my intention and im sorry.
i do stick with my post and repeat that bmi is a great airline and if you speak to some of the more senior crew at BA they will tell you that slowly slowly BA is going down the same path as bmi and other airlines re pay and 4 sector days.
isnt it always a case of wanting to be somewhere else?
whats the old saying, ' the grass is greener'???
maybe i should clarify.
of late, i have met so many people who want to slag down bmi for the same reason as polly pocket and it makes me wonder what it would be like to work with that sort of mentality at other airline in particular, BA.
i have worked for a few airlines in my time and yes of course, its very unfair of me to say or imply that everyone is the same.
for that it was not my intention and im sorry.
i do stick with my post and repeat that bmi is a great airline and if you speak to some of the more senior crew at BA they will tell you that slowly slowly BA is going down the same path as bmi and other airlines re pay and 4 sector days.
isnt it always a case of wanting to be somewhere else?
whats the old saying, ' the grass is greener'???
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ps....bmi hand all paperwork re the IDs to the ID centre and it is them, not bmi, who can take up to 5 weeks or more to process applications and then call crew in for their appointments.
Yeah but they take weeks to organise the paperwork to send it off. A girl on my course got called in a week after training to take her passport in so they could take a photocopy. She was there for four weeks with her passport, why couldn't they do it then? I was always being called back to sign things that I had already signed, which wasted so much time. After all that most crew get a temporary pass anyway!
I do agree with you with the four sector days though. I find them tiring, but not too bad. When you do four Glasgow's for example you have a long day, but it's only about 6 hours of flying really. I personally have no problem with doing four sector days, but maybe it's because it's what i'm used to.
What does get on my tit's is the "Earlys". You Normally start at about 6am and finish at 4pm and by the time you've got home and had dinner you're back in bed for the next "early" the next day. It really does catch up with you. I was on my fourth early day today and it got so much I thought I was going to fall asleep at the wheel driving into work. I actually nodded off in my jumpseat for a few seconds today, which can't be good. HOw can I be able to cope with an emergency when i'm that tired? It's not the fact that i'm not going to bed, because i'm always sleeping, but the long days do really get to you.
Hopefully things will be getting better, I can only hope that day comes soon!!!!!!
Yeah but they take weeks to organise the paperwork to send it off. A girl on my course got called in a week after training to take her passport in so they could take a photocopy. She was there for four weeks with her passport, why couldn't they do it then? I was always being called back to sign things that I had already signed, which wasted so much time. After all that most crew get a temporary pass anyway!
I do agree with you with the four sector days though. I find them tiring, but not too bad. When you do four Glasgow's for example you have a long day, but it's only about 6 hours of flying really. I personally have no problem with doing four sector days, but maybe it's because it's what i'm used to.
What does get on my tit's is the "Earlys". You Normally start at about 6am and finish at 4pm and by the time you've got home and had dinner you're back in bed for the next "early" the next day. It really does catch up with you. I was on my fourth early day today and it got so much I thought I was going to fall asleep at the wheel driving into work. I actually nodded off in my jumpseat for a few seconds today, which can't be good. HOw can I be able to cope with an emergency when i'm that tired? It's not the fact that i'm not going to bed, because i'm always sleeping, but the long days do really get to you.
Hopefully things will be getting better, I can only hope that day comes soon!!!!!!
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...mmm ms singyou. Please you`re jokes get better!
Whilst I may get 4 sector days and some times longer than bmi`s working days I get paid 3-4 times the amount that bmi pay.
And very few crew have any "attitude" at all. In fact in my 11 years at bmi I found crew there worse at certain bases.
Pleased you find bmi a great airline...will that be till they dump on you? Or have you just got Promotion? Or have you just started there?
Yes the grass is greener elsewhere!
Whilst I may get 4 sector days and some times longer than bmi`s working days I get paid 3-4 times the amount that bmi pay.
And very few crew have any "attitude" at all. In fact in my 11 years at bmi I found crew there worse at certain bases.
Pleased you find bmi a great airline...will that be till they dump on you? Or have you just got Promotion? Or have you just started there?
Yes the grass is greener elsewhere!
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hahahahhaah, i like your style tiger.
if you were getting paid 3 to 4 times more than me
youd be taking home between 3,000 to 4,000 pounds per month, si?
im not having a go at BA crew at all - just those who want to carry on a bit, mouth off - its selfish too, considering there are still crew employed at bmi.
and when people carry on, they tend to influence the younger more newer crew out there. not a good look.
if you were getting paid 3 to 4 times more than me
youd be taking home between 3,000 to 4,000 pounds per month, si?
im not having a go at BA crew at all - just those who want to carry on a bit, mouth off - its selfish too, considering there are still crew employed at bmi.
and when people carry on, they tend to influence the younger more newer crew out there. not a good look.
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Tiger is talking about the allowances on a 4 sector day ms singyou! 
[Sorry it was a little late]
bmi = £1 something an hour. It was £1.07 when I left.
BA = meal allowance(s), [short turn round pay-maybe paid], long day payment.
So are you saying its wrong that crew find out there is something better?
Your views are interesting. So in the world of ms singyou crews should blinkered and kept in the dark and fed s**t...mmm like mushrooms.
There is nothing selfish been said here, it is fact. Liked or not.
Oh yes. The postion I held at BM, if I had been at BA then I would have been earning figures you put forward.
[Sorry it was a little late]bmi = £1 something an hour. It was £1.07 when I left.
BA = meal allowance(s), [short turn round pay-maybe paid], long day payment.
So are you saying its wrong that crew find out there is something better?
Your views are interesting. So in the world of ms singyou crews should blinkered and kept in the dark and fed s**t...mmm like mushrooms.
There is nothing selfish been said here, it is fact. Liked or not.
Oh yes. The postion I held at BM, if I had been at BA then I would have been earning figures you put forward.
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ms singyou so you now go down the insulting route, you know nothing of my genitals. And you know nothing of me! Hard to pass any comment whether you like me or not- yet do I care? Nope! You have just shown true colours here, green being one of them.
If you honestly believe that crew members would continue to put up with roster instablity, low ish pay, management who believe in beating rather than rewarding, bullying, promotion of crew who have no idea-hey but the face fits so promote them. My old boss join BM as a manager-she left after a year, couldn`t believe it. People cannot believe I did 11 years at BM. Nightstopping with BA the hotels are in the city rather than the airport.
I`ll leave you with this thought.
I`m working 2 doubles August:
LHR-CGN-LHR/ LHR-BRU-LHR =£96.13
LHR-BRU-LHR/ LHR-MAN-LHR =£56.49
Money isn`t everything, however it helps a hell of a lot with day to day living! I also have time to eat, sit down and relax. Those 11 hour days with bmi earning mmm £11.77 in old allowances, so I`ll up it to £1.45 (being kind??) £15.95. Now do you see why they leave?
I`ll leave this on a positive note; staff concessions are better at bmi erm. Anyone else add anything?
edited to bring in allowance figures
If you honestly believe that crew members would continue to put up with roster instablity, low ish pay, management who believe in beating rather than rewarding, bullying, promotion of crew who have no idea-hey but the face fits so promote them. My old boss join BM as a manager-she left after a year, couldn`t believe it. People cannot believe I did 11 years at BM. Nightstopping with BA the hotels are in the city rather than the airport.
I`ll leave you with this thought.
I`m working 2 doubles August:
LHR-CGN-LHR/ LHR-BRU-LHR =£96.13
LHR-BRU-LHR/ LHR-MAN-LHR =£56.49
Money isn`t everything, however it helps a hell of a lot with day to day living! I also have time to eat, sit down and relax. Those 11 hour days with bmi earning mmm £11.77 in old allowances, so I`ll up it to £1.45 (being kind??) £15.95. Now do you see why they leave?
I`ll leave this on a positive note; staff concessions are better at bmi erm. Anyone else add anything?
edited to bring in allowance figures
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Hi!
Yeah you do get paid while training, but it's not that much!!!
In response to the post about the crews, I just want to say that all the crew I work with are fantastic. The days are very lojng and the money not too great, BUT the crew do make it much more enjoyable.
I have never worked for another airline, but surely every airline has it's ups and downs. BMI are going through a very bad patch at the moment, but things can only get better! Money isn't evrything at the end of the day! I love my job at bmi and wouldn't change it for anything!
Yeah you do get paid while training, but it's not that much!!!
In response to the post about the crews, I just want to say that all the crew I work with are fantastic. The days are very lojng and the money not too great, BUT the crew do make it much more enjoyable.
I have never worked for another airline, but surely every airline has it's ups and downs. BMI are going through a very bad patch at the moment, but things can only get better! Money isn't evrything at the end of the day! I love my job at bmi and wouldn't change it for anything!
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Katie,
Try for a different company for your first airline, then you will have a positive attitiude from the start.
Perhaps even wait until October when the charters start recruiting again.
Try for a different company for your first airline, then you will have a positive attitiude from the start.
Perhaps even wait until October when the charters start recruiting again.
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Ms Sing
Mssing is that meant to be short for "messing" as in messing you around as in the way bmi mess their crew around? Are you sure that you are not bmi management because I reckon that from the tone of your messages you might be!
Must be a little desperate to hang on to crew if you are coming on here trying to do your thing and spin. Reminds me of that little maneouuvre where Quantas were contacted begging them not to poach bmi staff for their London base in the same manner as Air New Zealand!
So ms sing why don't you leave your patronising for the crew room and leave us alone here at the sanctuary that used to be pprune.
Best Wishes
Airbusbellboy
Must be a little desperate to hang on to crew if you are coming on here trying to do your thing and spin. Reminds me of that little maneouuvre where Quantas were contacted begging them not to poach bmi staff for their London base in the same manner as Air New Zealand!
So ms sing why don't you leave your patronising for the crew room and leave us alone here at the sanctuary that used to be pprune.
Best Wishes
Airbusbellboy
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MS SINGYOU- I respect your view but I am always professional and happy at work. You have no right to judge me as you don't even know who I am. I don't moan and do just get on with it. I take out my frustration on this site, exactly what it's here for!!! I have not taken any attitute over to BA only the one I had at bmi- positive and professional. In addition, I also agree that airlines have difficult days with regards to weather, but its they way we are treated during this "occasion" which appears to happen every day. Why do you thing a huge amount of people have gone to BA? Because they like the uniform? I don't think so. Perhaps if you opened your eyes and saw what is going on around you, you'd feel the same as 95% of the current employees.
