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Old 27th Apr 2004, 07:41
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I fully think that the esky bag would compliment jetstar lol!

hey ditzy do you know if the SH crew will have extra penalties for going LH?

I thought that LH crew would have a higher base salary then SH crew and so I would think it would be logical that the SH crew going international are going to end up making less $$$ It seems only logical that QF would do that too lol.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 09:13
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QTee -
I really like the JQ website. It is easy to navigate through and very simple. Has a link to the QF site for all the other jazzy stuff.

Just read our monthly newsletter and it says the uniform will be launched on 10 May. Maybe I should give everyone a bogus date so you all miss it! No. I guess we cannot hide the uniform - being forced to wear it and all.

I have been advised that I am the only person that likes the guys' jacket... Everyone laughed at me when I told them. So allow me to retract my statement. Let's just say that the BRIGHT ORANGE girls' jacket blinded me!

As cheap and nasty some parts of the JQ operation are (no free seating, reduced legroom, no Meet and Assist...) there is some very poshy bits. Like our little Pods to record sales and swipe credit cards and print receipts. Virgin is all manual on papar so I guess we should be glad for that. Will make our COMMISSION easier to track.

Also the ground crew will use a remote control tug that fits to the left main wheel. It is very snazzy and is making news world over they say.

The proposed initial onboard snack range is actually quite decent. They say it will grow further as they identify trends in what customers purchase. I have tasted the proposed food and can say it is very nice. They said it was in the same condition it woudl be by the time we eat it on board... I didn't beleive them 0 it was just so fresh. Lots of choice anyway. Except the bar drinks on offer are nothing in comparison to what we offered at Impulse. Better than the domestic ones we get now I guess.

Our crew meals will improve over the current ones. While not difficult - it is another plus!

Also the baggage on the A320 will be loaded in containers which will help speed baggage loading / delivery. The only domestic narrowbody to do so. I believe Ansett's A320 were bulk loaded. Also load control will be done by the Tech Crew on PDAs palm pilots. Apparently that is a good thing. Very fancy anyway.

Nothing makes up for our uniform. VILE VILE VILE! So guys - May 10 2004 for the uniform. I can hardly wait

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Old 27th Apr 2004, 10:00
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Sorry Josh, you have me all wrong.

You did use the correct aviation industry terminology, its just that you made a typo and ended up in Japan and not Melbourne.

If you have a problem with me, please use private message and dont generalise about the hard working team at Virgin Blue - or at any other airline. Virgin Blue as a company does not see Jetstar as an enemy and nor do I - they are competition and competition is what keeps the skys above fair.

Try never to bag anyone at any airline - because in this industry people change jobs and companies - you never know who is going to pop up where.
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Old 28th Apr 2004, 12:01
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Well if the uniforms are that bad this is a big pay back. Not long ago some QF Link crew were laughing about the Australian Airlines uniforms, saying how cheap we looked, well guess what, it's happened to you guys too. So take it back and say good bye to Morrisey and hello K Mart. I'm not being rude but we copped a lot of flack from all Qantas staff, including Link about our uniforms. I bet you never thought you would see the day that you would lose yours. We are proud of our "unique" uniforms as I'm sure you will learn to be with your's. Welcome to life on the other side!!!

Oh and by the way....Go Jet Star.....this is going to be the best airline in Australia. I really wish all of you the best and kick some Virgin arse!!!!!!
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Old 29th Apr 2004, 00:40
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Honey I don't recall anyone bagging anyone out. In fact most threads re the AO uniform where started by the good people at AO... And is it wrong for others to have an opinion? No one launched any personal attacks. I don't see what the problem was.

I never liked the Morissey garb or any uniform Impulse or Qantas has dished out to me!

Why is it low cost airlines think their crew have to look stupid?! Very few LCCs have a nice uniform. I think they go too far with the whole 'casual' thing.
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Old 29th Apr 2004, 03:31
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Is it really that importnant!!!

Hi All,

I've been following this thread and just have to ask is the uniform really that important to you all. You should be exstatic that you are flying and part of something new and exciting... Flying is about service and safety, not how elegant the uniform can look. I understand that at the end of the day grooming is a big part of the job, however I'm sure you will all manage to make any uniform look good regardless of how simple it may be... And by the way, some of the K-Mart Customer Service Officers look great in their gear... Let it go and enjoy the challenge of starting up a new airline....

Just my word of advice, but hey what would I know, I'm not a FA......

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Old 29th Apr 2004, 10:06
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Hmm, you have to remember though that the uniform forms part of the overall organisational image.

If an employee feels comfortable in their uniform and has the perception that they look professional in it, it has a substantial effect on mental attitude.

Hence a number of the large corporates have reverted back to a suit & tie dress code as opposed to the everyday is casual clothes day attitude that was present a few years ago.

God, that organisational psychology course I did really came in handy for something afterall! Now I just have to find a use for algebra and I can die a contented man!
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Old 29th Apr 2004, 10:48
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That's a good point ozskipper.

I feel like a ragged shipwrecked sailor in my uniform....tattered, faded,ripped...holes in it.

None of them could be as trashy as mine! I look so trashy that the groundstaff complain if customers can see me! LOL

Maybe one day Ill be given a new uniform, but even then...it's a bit trashy.

I really think we would feel so much more confident with a neat uniform.
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Old 29th Apr 2004, 22:48
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Got a Point...

Ozskipper,

Interesting point and well use of organisational psychology.. I guess the uniform does contribute to the overall image of the company.

Still, I think it could be worse!

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Old 30th Apr 2004, 03:03
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why is everyone getting so wrapped up bout all of this

How about we wait until they actually give the press release, cause im not totally convinced that this id the correct information being supplied

i read in the Jetstar booklet i recieved yesterday,

"Cabin services display of the cravat and white shirt with gold buttons identifies an employee as a flight attendant"

I read that it was all black? There was only whichmay be true, the "vile" uniform expressed... unless te whole thing is a rumour
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Old 30th Apr 2004, 05:39
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captain josh are you sure you are not reading the old "Qantas Runway grooming guide " ???

The old " George Gross and Harry Who" uniform had our mainline QF crew wearing white shirts with gold buttons and a red cravat. Are you sure you are not getting confused ?

I have very close friends at Jetstar and they seem to be certain the uniform is black.

P.S - Impulse crew could you please send your old wheelie bags over to us ? The "new" and improved domestic size one is hopeless and I keep tripping over it - I'll accept a hand me down !
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Old 30th Apr 2004, 05:55
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QF Skywalker...

Do you want one that's broken? Cause that's all you'll get! Everyone's is breaking cause they were badly made. Just for a change! LOL!

And Captain Josh...

Ditz is correct. If there's a cravat anywhere to be found, it would be on Ditz - and let me tell you, no one's given Ditz a cravat to wear in a LONG time!

NO gold buttons either. I've seen the uniforms being picked up by the crew.

Like Henry Ford said..."Any colour, so long as it's black".
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Old 30th Apr 2004, 07:00
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Changing the subject slightly...

Hmmm, yes I have also tripped, kicked, and watched with fear as my QF wheely bag does things that even a coles trolley with a wonky wheel cant do!

I'm 5'8, which means the handle is far to short to use comfortably. Wondering if this is an OH & S issue? Luv the esky though.

Looking forward to seeing the Jetstar uniforms....just hope the wheely bags are better for you all.
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Old 30th Apr 2004, 10:45
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hey!

I was just making a comment. As i said i didnt doubt anyone, was just stating what was written in the booklet Jetstar sent out to me yesterday.

No offence to you!
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Old 1st May 2004, 10:37
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Captain -
Our Cabin Crew Operations Manual also talks about our cravats and gold buttons in the Duty Travel / Paxing bit... I am thinking they have cut and pasted from old manuals!

Also Darls, the information re the desisn is sadly correct The uniform is displayed in all crew lounges. No secret to the crew.

OR MAYBE THEY ARE HIDING THE REAL ONES UNTIL THE 10 MAY LAUNCH!??! ... Tell him he's dreamin'...

Social Flyer -
Agree with you but one must feel proud in his uniform and also look like they have responsiblity and authority. I am not dissing K Mart people or their uniforms. Would you take as much notice of a Police person if they were wearing a polo top and a baseball cap? I think you get my message.

Also the orange does look ridiculous. End of story. And the Bonds shirt material and the zip....

QFskywalker -
I have an International wheelie and a larger Domestic one (the old ones). How did I get both? Chapped lips, Sweetie What are they worth to you?

QFMike737 -
Darls update me re QR. Why are you not being glamourous on the Tilt Train? I bit the 1504 to Gladstone was JUST like the Orient Express.
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Old 3rd May 2004, 09:11
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just my two cents but like everyone else i HATE the new uniform sorry ditzy i have to steal your favourite word but its VILE!

Its so tight fitting! the girls with normal boobs are going to look like they have had implants!

I just broke my case yesterday so will be going back for case number FOUR .. i dont care if its only for half a months use, i wont ruin my own luggage to save them $3!
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Old 4th May 2004, 05:12
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fish That's just too funny!


Its so tight fitting! the girls with normal boobs are going to look like they have had implants!
Perhaps that was the whole idea?

Let me guess. The management team approving your uniform were all yobbo blokes, right?
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Old 4th May 2004, 08:38
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i tried my uniform on today

didnt think it was as bad what ppl made it out to be

i was expecting something daggy, looks smart, unusual
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Old 4th May 2004, 10:28
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i was expecting something daggy, looks smart, unusual
Noice, noice, its unusual, different, noice, noice....

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Josh -
I must admit having tried it on and now owning one I do not want to rip it up and use it as rags. I still think it's vile. But I am being paid to wear it so what is one to do?!

Sweetie were you at the Dowd / Weiss place at around 3pm when 3 very loud FAs came in? There was a CSA guy there trying on his uniform. Was that you we spoke to?

Oh and did you find the red cravat and gold buttons in your uniform pack? I love the way you accused me of lying about the uniform.

I must agree that the uniform is as you say - unusual. (read VILE )

Tip to current Impulse / QFLink / Airconnex FAs:
We have all been issued with the same pants and skirts that we currently own. And this was supposed to be a LOW COST operation . Rather than having to mince around town IN MY OWN TIME finding Madam Wong's Tailoring for Men. And then having to fork out my own $$ and wait an eternity for the expense claim to come back. (Heaven forbid you forget to cross a 't' or dot and 'i' or use blue pen - then it will be a year before you get paid!) Just hand back your new pants when disposing of the current uniform. Save yourself the bother the company are so keen for us to go through! Just keep the 8 month old pants / skirt that were tailored and taken in / out for us for free. (Unless you are like Mr Seatback who has lost weight - b**tch!)

Also the new allocation doesn't come in certain sizes. So I have would have a ill-fitting pants if I kept the new allocation (as they aren't paying for pants to be taken in!). Just thought it would be good to share my idea. This whole new 'process' of getting a uniform (a vile / unusual one at that) is just too much bother for this JetPrincess

Oh and for the first time since the creation of our lovely little airline we will be working for the people who's name / logo is on our badge! Bloody amazing - never thought I would see the day!
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