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Old 24th Sep 2003, 14:11
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Malaysian Airlines wants a cabin crew ‘young and pretty’

This is taken from todays IHT and is absolutely outrageous. 35 would be a far more appropriate cut off.

KUALA LUMPUR Malaysian Airlines has grounded air hostesses over the age of 40, and a senior airline executive defended the move by saying that passengers wanted to be served by "young, demure and pretty stewardesses," a report said Tuesday.
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The national flag carrier had no intention of discriminating against women as alleged by the employees' union, the general manager for corporate services, Mohammadon Abdullah, was quoted as saying in the New Straits Times.
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But, he added: "Let's face reality. Customers prefer to be served by young, demure and pretty stewardesses, especially Asian ladies."
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The Malaysian Airline System Employees Union last week began a campaign against alleged sex discrimination by the airline over the retirement age. Women must retire from flying by the age of 45 if they are supervisors and by the age of 40 if they hold nonsupervisory posts, 15 years earlier than their male counterparts.
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"We need front-liners who are mentally and physically alert, young, pretty and quick to respond to emergencies as safety and security of passengers is our priority," Mohammadon said. He also suggested that women over 40 had domestic problems that interfered with their jobs, espcially if they were married with children. KUALA LUMPUR Malaysian Airlines has grounded air hostesses over the age of 40, and a senior airline executive defended the move by saying that passengers wanted to be served by "young, demure and pretty stewardesses," a report said Tuesday.
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Nothing wrong with that.
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Yup...maybe QF can learn a thing or two

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As a regular SLF consignment on MAS, I have had the opportunity, and used it, to study the form of said females. I must say the young ones scare me sh*tless,

This last Monday, returning from Johannesburg on MH202, the young thing upstairs went out of her way to give me the eye each time she passed. Her mature colleague was more inclined to kick my shins. The young thing demonstrated on several occasions her inability to control a situation such as take-off with 4 biz seats fully reclined and occupants in slumber land. The mature thing got this under control.

Malaysian politicians are mostly followers of Islam and feel no shame in downgrading women, one of their brethren even suggested that pretty girls should not be employed in the workplace as they distract men and break up marriages.

That’s the answer, put the pretty ones on the ’planes until they are mature and then put them in the workplace. No more distractions in the office, no more broken marriages.


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and your complaint is?
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The only difference here between MAS and say, Emirates is the fact that MAS have actually admitted in public the 'types' they are after.
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"young, demure and pretty stewardesses,"
Obviously with big tits as well.
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Anti sexism and ageism hasn't got a culture yet in the far east. It stinks, many girls over 35/40 are the best cabin crew, mature and experienced.
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Old 25th Sep 2003, 00:55
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how stupid.

Cabin crew should continue flying if they want to and are healthy enough.

Did anyone see 'Working with Dinosaurs' ages ago. They had a 70 year lady Dorothy working as a Stewardess for Britannia and she was brilliant!
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Is that why they have won the award for best cabin staff 2 or 3 years straight?
They are also getting an award from the company of a half months pay for a job well done.
Airlines in the USA an Europe could learn alot from them.
Mostly customer satisfaction, its something that we dont see anymore.
I dead head on MAS quite often, one of the best I have ever seen.
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Having used MAS on numerous occasions and having undertaken business with senior officials I make the following observations.

1) The service is great - they are not scary like QF crew!
2) The Islamic culture really puts women down - to the extent that a senior official publicly humiliated a female at a meeting and she had to just sit there and smile at his incredibly sexist jibes.
3) Whilst Malaysia claims to be multi-denominational, why is it that all the cleaners (and similar lowly jobs) at KUL are Hindu's?

PS - I still like the place and the people (flame prevention!!!)
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Cabin crew should all be single too!
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I can't believe what my eyes are reading!
Better keep my passport and ID deep down in my handbag ... you know ...
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And... age 24 already is old by BKK standards.
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And not TOO dumb either. I like a bit of conversation with my cigarette.
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FairPayer,

thanks for posting this interesting article. I had read it myself on the International Herald Tribune and thought that it would be perfect for the CC Forum.
I hoped it would stimulate some intelligent discussion but it seems that lately lots of kids are using their parent's PC unsupervised to pay us a visit instead of trading Pokemon cards as usual.
Flaps, Tightslot, where are you ???
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...should be more of it

I can't believe what my eyes are reading!
S ure is good to see people ignoring the usual PC crap on prune and saying what they think.
Looks like MAS is not afraid to call a spade a spade.
Unlike a certain big Aussie carrier.
Too bad the boiler-riddled airlines can't do the same.
S exy women on a crew isn't a bad thing.. is it??

M ost guys I talk to say that's that what they want in a hosty... unless their wives or a "Today Tonight" crew are nearby, of course.
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Cabin crew should all be single too!
Considering that you are trying to become cabin crew, which means your main job role will be participating in pleasing the public and people that you have just met, you are not going too well so far. You have an acquired practice to make waves, and quiet frankly PEEVE cabin crew off!

GROW UP! Your thought's are niggardly,valueless and just plain STUPID!
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The announcement by MAS does not suprise me in the least. It appalls me but doesn't suprise me.
You just have to look at some of the actions and decisions of the Malaysian leader, Dr. Mohamed Mahatir to realise that.
He is not afraid of voicing his opinions of the western world (especially Australia), and although he proclaims his country is harmoniously made up of many different cultures, spending some time there will show you another side. It is very obvious that Malaysia is separated into classes, whether they like to admit it or not. You have the Malays, Chinese Malays and Indian Malays, assorted other ethnic groups then of course you have the women. It doesn't take long to realise the Indian Malays are the lower caste.

The decision made by MAS to retire female flight attendants at 40 is one that can only happen in a country with UNEQUAL employment opportunities. I am trying to keep religion out of this but given the fact that males used to be able to have 4 wives etc, surely this is another example of females being the subordinates, living in a culture where males rule. Unfortunately a good example of dictatorship is the case of Anwar Ibrahim, who was jailed for alledged sodomy.

MAS give the example of safety and alertness. Well what about the men?? Surely their alertness will also diminish at the ripe old age of 40 also, but they are allowed to work for another 15 years. Doesn't make sense to me.

My opinion is Malaysia is still a Moslem country with Moslem beliefs. They have opened them selves up for financial benefit through business and tourism and maybe many of us get a bit relaxed about the real issue in that country. Not many other Moslem countries have allowed such freedom for foreigners.

Personally I think it's a bad decision, but it's something we cannot change. I know there is a lot of racism in that country, towards females, mixed breeds and westerners, but apparently that is the way of the religion. I hope they elect another PM soon with some more liberal thought. Until then I still enjoy Malaysia and accept the fact I visit a country that has so much to offer and unfortunately have respect their culture albeit against "our" beliefs.

"Malaysia, not so truely Asia"
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