Emirates - Wannabes & Recruitment V
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I was one of the MANY there in Melbourne too! 4pm and no call, so it's not looking good for me!
It was my second open day, so just keep going along ifyou don't get through this time!
Good luck!!
It was my second open day, so just keep going along ifyou don't get through this time!
Good luck!!
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I know!!! But they do have a lot of people to go through, I'm trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to keep positive.... I was one of the ones right near the end too so if they are working through in order, I could be one of the last calls they make- who knows??
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no call¬
I think next time i'm going to be a little bit forceful and get myself to thefront end of the queue's.
When i handed in my CV at melbourne today she barely even spoke to me, grunted, took the cv and photo and that was that. Guess she was tired.
But i am going to assume my chances would of improved if i was at the start maybe?
Tbh, who knows. Would of loved to have seen a criteria list...would be worth a laugh:P
When i handed in my CV at melbourne today she barely even spoke to me, grunted, took the cv and photo and that was that. Guess she was tired.
But i am going to assume my chances would of improved if i was at the start maybe?
Tbh, who knows. Would of loved to have seen a criteria list...would be worth a laugh:P
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Nice to see so many other Melbourne people on here. We should all keep each other updated.
I went to the open day today too and thought things went pretty well but no call.........
I went to the open day today too and thought things went pretty well but no call.........
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I think those two recruiters are liars. 
There was an applicant who asked if there is an age limit, during question and answer time and the recruiter said there was no age limit
and the recruiter added that people “can apply,” even if they are over 35yo….ahaha! How rude! Those two bitches perhaps don’t know what they are talking about and they introduced themselves as a “Recruiter,” 
or perhaps they are just such a 
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My friends (EK Cabin Crew) told me that there is an age limit, if you are applying for a Cabin Crew position for EK for the first time and if I am not mistaken, I think this information is also in this forum.
I attended one of the cabin crew interview before and I was talking to this gorgeous blond woman and her group of friends who used to work for Emirates. She said, she was treated like a dog……… when she was working as a Cabin Crew for EK. She said, she couldn’t take it anymore, so she left. 
That is why I don’t think it’s worth pursuing to work for EK. The salary is not really attractive, if you think about it.
This airlines is not the best airlines as far as I am concern and definitely not an employer of choice unless if you are really desperate. Go for it!
There was an applicant who asked if there is an age limit, during question and answer time and the recruiter said there was no age limit
and the recruiter added that people “can apply,” even if they are over 35yo….ahaha! How rude! Those two bitches perhaps don’t know what they are talking about and they introduced themselves as a “Recruiter,” or perhaps they are just such a . My friends (EK Cabin Crew) told me that there is an age limit, if you are applying for a Cabin Crew position for EK for the first time and if I am not mistaken, I think this information is also in this forum.
I attended one of the cabin crew interview before and I was talking to this gorgeous blond woman and her group of friends who used to work for Emirates. She said, she was treated like a dog
……… when she was working as a Cabin Crew for EK. She said, she couldn’t take it anymore, so she left. That is why I don’t think it’s worth pursuing to work for EK. The salary is not really attractive, if you think about it.
This airlines is not the best airlines as far as I am concern and definitely not an employer of choice unless if you are really desperate. Go for it!
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Pretty harsh words, as if any employer is perfect, but I'm baffled to as why you even applied knowing before hand what your friends went through working with EK !
Good luck in you future endeavors.
Good luck in you future endeavors.
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I don't really why you insult the company so much since you went to the interviews, have taken the time to write in this forum about it a few times. I mean, if you really thought EK was this bad why woud you apply in the first place. 
I agree with Montreal76, your words are pretty harsh. Insulting the recruiters and stuff in the thread is not really appropriate. Imagine if you blast the company at this point, and insult it, if you are hired the first thing that you will do when something does not go your way is be to lack loyalty.
At the same time, I can understand you are upset if you waited and waited...and you felt they said things you did not agree with.
Anyways, There are plenty other airlines, good luck with your cabin crew job search if you wanna pursue a career in that field.
ciao
I agree with Montreal76, your words are pretty harsh. Insulting the recruiters and stuff in the thread is not really appropriate. Imagine if you blast the company at this point, and insult it, if you are hired the first thing that you will do when something does not go your way is be to lack loyalty. At the same time, I can understand you are upset if you waited and waited...and you felt they said things you did not agree with.
Anyways, There are plenty other airlines, good luck with your cabin crew job search if you wanna pursue a career in that field.
ciao
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When do you join? thats cool.
are you from Sao Paulo? I wish you good luck with the medical process. I think you can get it in portugese (the reports) as long as they are translated in English by professionnal translators or a doctor... but to be sure cal the cabin crew joiners line. I heard that they are flexible if it take more time than 2 weeks so dont worry, I mean, do it as fast as you can, but they will understand if its more than 11 days!! thats so soon!
you can do it 
Montreal 76- 5 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhhh lucky lucky lucky you!!! you gotta tell me everything once you get there lol
are you from Sao Paulo? I wish you good luck with the medical process. I think you can get it in portugese (the reports) as long as they are translated in English by professionnal translators or a doctor... but to be sure cal the cabin crew joiners line. I heard that they are flexible if it take more time than 2 weeks so dont worry, I mean, do it as fast as you can, but they will understand if its more than 11 days!! thats so soon!
you can do it Montreal 76- 5 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhhh lucky lucky lucky you!!! you gotta tell me everything once you get there lol
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Just a bit of background for you guys - I currently work for EK, originally from Perth, have done so for 3 years and have just re-signed my contract for another 3, so some of the stuff written here about the recruitment process isn't neccessarily relevant now, it is pure opinion, I don't know anyone in recruitment or know what sort of guidelines they have, I just want to merely clear some things up, and also throw my opinion into the forum.
Regarding the age limit, the only age limit mentioned regarding cabin crew is that you have to be over 21 years of age. This is preferable on the open days, however if you have your 21st birthday coming up in a month or so then they won't reject you for that reason alone, a friend of mine graduated from college on his 21st birthday. There is no maximum age limit I can think of. I personally know someone who was an abinitio at 32 years, but I admit I don't know anyone who was an abinitio over 35 years of age. To be honest if you have a 'special skill' that crewing badly needs and you're over this limit I don't see why you should be rejected due to age. From the top of my head, such special skills would be a language speaker (Italian, Greek, German, Portugese, Mandarin and Cantonese speakers are in high demand), someone who's a registered nurse, someone with fire fighting experience, someone formerly with the police force, former flyer with cabin management experience etc.
Admittedly a lot of people come to Dubai and find that is isn't what they think it is. They come here, party all the time, call sick for a Jeddah, Bombay, Lagos, Shanghai, and wonder why they get called into the office, wonder why their rosters aren't as good as their batchmates, wonder why they haven't been upgraded to Business Class yet. Spend their money at all the malls and nightclubs and wonder why they've been here for a year or two and haven't been able to save anything despite not paying rent or utility bills or taxi cabs to and from work. They're on the phone to their boyfriend/girlfriend 2-3 times a week, who's complaining that they never see them, and yet these same crew never bid for flights because 'I never get what I want anyway'.
This job requires a HUGE lifestyle change. I cannot stress that enough. And whilst many people know that, are told that by friends in the industry or read it here on pprune, many do not know how different this is until they start this job. Not to mention the huge culture shock of moving to an Arabic country, which may look western in those ads on TV or on travel shows, but is still very much clinging onto it's Muslim traditions. For some reason the Aussie crew, despite being one of the most dominant nationalities, tend to have one of the highest turnover rates. Many of them take on this job, use it purely to see different countries, and leave. Then talk about EK as treating them 'like a dog', as hard2fly puts it.
The salary is on the careers website in black and white. And the first two months are rough until the flying pay kicks in. But there are other airlines in the region - Etihad, Qatar, Gulf Air etc. where crew are in a similar position. I did my fair share of shopping around and found EK to offer the best all-round package. Of course it's not the best airline, but try getting into an airline back home - How often do they recruit? What qualifications do they need? How long will you have to slug it out in domestic or regional flying before you even are considered for international routes. And even then, how long will it take before you can get promoted? How long until you become Purser?
The job I had before EK actually paid me more money than my net salary whilst in Economy. But unlike back home I could save a LOT more here. And this month I'm going to Japan, Britain, Italy, Germany, and Hong Kong. What other job pays you to fly and sightsee where others go for holidays and meetings? It is all up to the inividual, and what you make of this job, this opportunity.
hard2fly - it really is a shame you feel this way after the recruitment days, and if you feel this job is not worth pursuing then that's fine. I can only hope that the rest of people here think otherwise, and that I can expect to work onboard in the future with others who clearly aren't as put off as you are.
*Apologies for the long-winded post*
Regarding the age limit, the only age limit mentioned regarding cabin crew is that you have to be over 21 years of age. This is preferable on the open days, however if you have your 21st birthday coming up in a month or so then they won't reject you for that reason alone, a friend of mine graduated from college on his 21st birthday. There is no maximum age limit I can think of. I personally know someone who was an abinitio at 32 years, but I admit I don't know anyone who was an abinitio over 35 years of age. To be honest if you have a 'special skill' that crewing badly needs and you're over this limit I don't see why you should be rejected due to age. From the top of my head, such special skills would be a language speaker (Italian, Greek, German, Portugese, Mandarin and Cantonese speakers are in high demand), someone who's a registered nurse, someone with fire fighting experience, someone formerly with the police force, former flyer with cabin management experience etc.
Admittedly a lot of people come to Dubai and find that is isn't what they think it is. They come here, party all the time, call sick for a Jeddah, Bombay, Lagos, Shanghai, and wonder why they get called into the office, wonder why their rosters aren't as good as their batchmates, wonder why they haven't been upgraded to Business Class yet. Spend their money at all the malls and nightclubs and wonder why they've been here for a year or two and haven't been able to save anything despite not paying rent or utility bills or taxi cabs to and from work. They're on the phone to their boyfriend/girlfriend 2-3 times a week, who's complaining that they never see them, and yet these same crew never bid for flights because 'I never get what I want anyway'.
This job requires a HUGE lifestyle change. I cannot stress that enough. And whilst many people know that, are told that by friends in the industry or read it here on pprune, many do not know how different this is until they start this job. Not to mention the huge culture shock of moving to an Arabic country, which may look western in those ads on TV or on travel shows, but is still very much clinging onto it's Muslim traditions. For some reason the Aussie crew, despite being one of the most dominant nationalities, tend to have one of the highest turnover rates. Many of them take on this job, use it purely to see different countries, and leave. Then talk about EK as treating them 'like a dog', as hard2fly puts it.
The salary is on the careers website in black and white. And the first two months are rough until the flying pay kicks in. But there are other airlines in the region - Etihad, Qatar, Gulf Air etc. where crew are in a similar position. I did my fair share of shopping around and found EK to offer the best all-round package. Of course it's not the best airline, but try getting into an airline back home - How often do they recruit? What qualifications do they need? How long will you have to slug it out in domestic or regional flying before you even are considered for international routes. And even then, how long will it take before you can get promoted? How long until you become Purser?
The job I had before EK actually paid me more money than my net salary whilst in Economy. But unlike back home I could save a LOT more here. And this month I'm going to Japan, Britain, Italy, Germany, and Hong Kong. What other job pays you to fly and sightsee where others go for holidays and meetings? It is all up to the inividual, and what you make of this job, this opportunity.
hard2fly - it really is a shame you feel this way after the recruitment days, and if you feel this job is not worth pursuing then that's fine. I can only hope that the rest of people here think otherwise, and that I can expect to work onboard in the future with others who clearly aren't as put off as you are.
*Apologies for the long-winded post*
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good points
thanks for the post helfsich...
You touched on some interesting subjects! And the points you made about staff calling in sick and getting crap routes or a "please explain" happens here at QF aswell....Its what you make of the job, its up to yourself to make it as fun and interested or as lame as possible..
Can't wait till next month....However this mountain of forms i have to send off seems endless!
A mate of mine went to the open day here in sydney and unfortunately did not get a call. Did anyone here go to the recent open days in sydney/melbs and made it through?
Chino any news???
deon
You touched on some interesting subjects! And the points you made about staff calling in sick and getting crap routes or a "please explain" happens here at QF aswell....Its what you make of the job, its up to yourself to make it as fun and interested or as lame as possible..
Can't wait till next month....However this mountain of forms i have to send off seems endless!
A mate of mine went to the open day here in sydney and unfortunately did not get a call. Did anyone here go to the recent open days in sydney/melbs and made it through?
Chino any news???
deon
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Thanks Helfsich
Hey Helfsich,
Thanks for writing all of that on here. I was one of the ones who went on Saturday and didn't get a call, as you can probably see by my posts on here. I'm not going to lie and say I wasn't extremely disappointed- just ask my boyfriend and friends who have put up with a very weepy me for the last day or so. I agree with a lot of what you have written, which is why I guess I am a little more disappointed and confused with why I didn't get through, because I love the job and honestly think I'm the right person for it. Sorry if that sounds conceited.
I'm currently working as cabin crew here in Australia, about to be promoted to cabin manager, but want the experience of living overseas again. I grew up overseas, living as an expat in two different countries in South-East Asia, and they were both Muslim countries. Yes I do understand that the Middle East is very different to Asia, however a lot of the ways of life that are similar are those that relate to living in a Muslim society, and having experienced those from childhood I do know what I am in for. And I think that's what frustrated me the most, was that I am obviously experienced and reasonably good at the job, and have a cultural background that knows what- a. living overseas is like for a start, and b. living in a Muslim society is like.
What I take away from the day is having better photos for a start- I'm going to get professional ones done for when I go again next time, and as both the ladies there said it takes most cabin crew 3 to 4 times to be accepted after attending open days. (It was my first one.) And I also think that maybe I should put a bit of my cultural background on my CV so that they can see where I have come from. I think it's important too, to not bag out an employer on here- I know for a fact that the company I currently work for checks these forums ALL the time for people on here bagging out the company or leaking confidential information and stuff like that. As someone said in a previous post, how can you even have a crappy attitude about a job you don't even have yet?
If you are truly committed to being employed by EK and believe that what they are offering is right for you, then you won't give up. And an open day is not a great guide as to why you don't get selected, it's very hard for those selectors to pick the right people out of 300 faces they see on the day- you'll get some great people, but there will obviously be some great people that get missed too, and not giving up is an indication of how committed to the cause you really are. Good luck to everyone that is in the process of doing medicals and stuff, and to those of us that didn't get selected, keep trying and if it's meant to be, its meant to be.
Sorry for the long post too, had been thinking about writing a lot of this stuff and guess that last post gave me the guts to!
Thanks for writing all of that on here. I was one of the ones who went on Saturday and didn't get a call, as you can probably see by my posts on here. I'm not going to lie and say I wasn't extremely disappointed- just ask my boyfriend and friends who have put up with a very weepy me for the last day or so. I agree with a lot of what you have written, which is why I guess I am a little more disappointed and confused with why I didn't get through, because I love the job and honestly think I'm the right person for it. Sorry if that sounds conceited.
I'm currently working as cabin crew here in Australia, about to be promoted to cabin manager, but want the experience of living overseas again. I grew up overseas, living as an expat in two different countries in South-East Asia, and they were both Muslim countries. Yes I do understand that the Middle East is very different to Asia, however a lot of the ways of life that are similar are those that relate to living in a Muslim society, and having experienced those from childhood I do know what I am in for. And I think that's what frustrated me the most, was that I am obviously experienced and reasonably good at the job, and have a cultural background that knows what- a. living overseas is like for a start, and b. living in a Muslim society is like.
What I take away from the day is having better photos for a start- I'm going to get professional ones done for when I go again next time, and as both the ladies there said it takes most cabin crew 3 to 4 times to be accepted after attending open days. (It was my first one.) And I also think that maybe I should put a bit of my cultural background on my CV so that they can see where I have come from. I think it's important too, to not bag out an employer on here- I know for a fact that the company I currently work for checks these forums ALL the time for people on here bagging out the company or leaking confidential information and stuff like that. As someone said in a previous post, how can you even have a crappy attitude about a job you don't even have yet?
If you are truly committed to being employed by EK and believe that what they are offering is right for you, then you won't give up. And an open day is not a great guide as to why you don't get selected, it's very hard for those selectors to pick the right people out of 300 faces they see on the day- you'll get some great people, but there will obviously be some great people that get missed too, and not giving up is an indication of how committed to the cause you really are. Good luck to everyone that is in the process of doing medicals and stuff, and to those of us that didn't get selected, keep trying and if it's meant to be, its meant to be.
Sorry for the long post too, had been thinking about writing a lot of this stuff and guess that last post gave me the guts to!
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Thanks Helfsich,
Such a great post and very informative, and fantastic to hear from someone who has been there three years and still working there.
I think everyone who gets the job is really sure it will be a smooth ride and a lot of fun, and flying everywhere, and that would be all that requires. But I can imagine how tired after a few flights back-to-back one is, be disappointed by actually having to work, and earn their money.
'The grass is always greener on the other side', so it is important not to over-idealize, or to idealize at all if possible.
Such a great post and very informative, and fantastic to hear from someone who has been there three years and still working there.
I think everyone who gets the job is really sure it will be a smooth ride and a lot of fun, and flying everywhere, and that would be all that requires. But I can imagine how tired after a few flights back-to-back one is, be disappointed by actually having to work, and earn their money.
'The grass is always greener on the other side', so it is important not to over-idealize, or to idealize at all if possible.
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helfsich, thank you for such an insightful post!
Disclaimer: These are not company-based policies but purely my conjecturing using common sense and what is left of my knowledge of psychology.
The only thing I can add is what I have experienced during the assessment day in Japan. More than 150 candidates came to the preliminary assessment – everyone looked smart, smiled and had all the required documents, all hoping to make it to the second stage. And yet less than a third of them were selected to the second round. While I do not think that Emirates have, at this point of the selection process, a certain list of "tick-off" criteria, I think that the only principle they may utilize when having to deal with such a large number of homogeneous people (all look cute, all with docs, all friendly and nice) is their first impressionof a candidate. Admittedly, Osaka screening had had half the number of people of what you, guys, in Australia had; however, time-wise, the recruiters had as much (or rather little) time to preselect the lucky ones in Japan as anywhere they hold assessment days.
Come to think this way - if you have a choice of 10 products and you can only pick 3, most likely your decision will be based on what appeals better to you at first glance. I suppose, at this stage, recruiters just scan through the CVs (having 2 minutes at most per an applicant) looking for something eye-catchy (e.g., person A speaks 4 languages; person B has 5 years of customer service experience, person C has MA in Hospitality). If there is nothing in your CV that has a potential to impress at first glance, then chances of being remembered (and, and therefore, wanted) are slim (consider person D speaking 1 language, person E having a 2-month experience, and person F just having high-school diploma). Now, this does not mean that persons D, E, and F are not qualified for this job or are less smart. But rather that in the pool of 10 people, persons A, B, and C have more chances to stand out. And in absolute fair terms, if people in past worked harder to have these advantages, it is fair enough if they derive benefit now over others who invested less time/energy into what they have on their CVS.
In such cases of having a simple CV, trying in station where there is not such a large number of applicants may be more fruitful (needless to say, more costly, but then if you do not want to pay for traveling to such places, try to change CV in such a way that you are not just "one of the many" but "one of the few.")
Also, trying to be TOO friendly is something that may cause a reverse impact. I have seen many people trying to impress with their killing smile, and oh boy, did they kill... When one has to see 300 smiles, it is pretty easy to "decipher" those who are fake.
These would be my 2 cents coming from studying psychology for half a year :-)
Disclaimer: These are not company-based policies but purely my conjecturing using common sense and what is left of my knowledge of psychology.
The only thing I can add is what I have experienced during the assessment day in Japan. More than 150 candidates came to the preliminary assessment – everyone looked smart, smiled and had all the required documents, all hoping to make it to the second stage. And yet less than a third of them were selected to the second round. While I do not think that Emirates have, at this point of the selection process, a certain list of "tick-off" criteria, I think that the only principle they may utilize when having to deal with such a large number of homogeneous people (all look cute, all with docs, all friendly and nice) is their first impressionof a candidate. Admittedly, Osaka screening had had half the number of people of what you, guys, in Australia had; however, time-wise, the recruiters had as much (or rather little) time to preselect the lucky ones in Japan as anywhere they hold assessment days.
Come to think this way - if you have a choice of 10 products and you can only pick 3, most likely your decision will be based on what appeals better to you at first glance. I suppose, at this stage, recruiters just scan through the CVs (having 2 minutes at most per an applicant) looking for something eye-catchy (e.g., person A speaks 4 languages; person B has 5 years of customer service experience, person C has MA in Hospitality). If there is nothing in your CV that has a potential to impress at first glance, then chances of being remembered (and, and therefore, wanted) are slim (consider person D speaking 1 language, person E having a 2-month experience, and person F just having high-school diploma). Now, this does not mean that persons D, E, and F are not qualified for this job or are less smart. But rather that in the pool of 10 people, persons A, B, and C have more chances to stand out. And in absolute fair terms, if people in past worked harder to have these advantages, it is fair enough if they derive benefit now over others who invested less time/energy into what they have on their CVS.
In such cases of having a simple CV, trying in station where there is not such a large number of applicants may be more fruitful (needless to say, more costly, but then if you do not want to pay for traveling to such places, try to change CV in such a way that you are not just "one of the many" but "one of the few.")
Also, trying to be TOO friendly is something that may cause a reverse impact. I have seen many people trying to impress with their killing smile, and oh boy, did they kill... When one has to see 300 smiles, it is pretty easy to "decipher" those who are fake.
These would be my 2 cents coming from studying psychology for half a year :-)