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Jetstar - Wannabes & Recruitment II

Old 21st Dec 2007, 13:04
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SYDMUM - not to be mean but whatever you do dont get your hopes up - i think it would be a 99.9% chance they will let you keep your holidays - and if they did its unfair to current crew who miss out on slots.
Bid slots have already closed for april and the only way you will get some is if you can bid for another slot for the bid period (if there is a slot left) and find someone to swap 2 weeks with you (highly unlikely as its hard enough to get a slot let alone one you really need)
Sorry - but more likely they will say that they may let you defer to a later ground school if you really cant not postpone your hols.. but they are not that forgiving.. in the past people have had to reschedule weddings and funerals to fit in with their annual leave (or lack of) and they def dont do leave without pay for any reason - at all.
Just giving you a heads up so you can start thinking about what you want to do.
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Old 21st Dec 2007, 22:35
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In the hands of the gods

thanks guys, will keep you posted on how I get on.

It's going to be a very long weekend.
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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 00:01
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Question

anyone notice that team jetstar are recruiting again for the SYD base? Strange because they only had an assessment centre here about 3 weeks ago! What's the go with this?? sounds abit fishy!
did they not have any luck 3 weeks ago? or are they trying to get as many people on AWA's before they get abolished?
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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 02:06
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Well they have announced about 35 Cabin Managers over a few bases so I guess they are expanding so need the crew. and we are getting bigger planes and the new crew are meant to be trained on the 320/321/330 so very interesting times ahead
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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 11:04
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You know you work for JQi when the take off minimum take off weight isn't met so they need to start filling drums of concrete in order to meet it.

CNS-NGO-KIX-CNS - a classic example.
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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 13:21
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and what has that constructive comment got to do with Jetstar?
Even as Qantaslink we sometimes had to sandbag the aircraft to keep the loadings even... ? but i dont think many wannabe cabin crew really care...
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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 15:11
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Futureflier I'd say the assessment centres will keep on coming thick and fast because they intend to have an extra 800 cabin crew here at Jetstar by the end of the year (2008). I'm in the third week of ground school for domestic Melbourne dual base and we've been told that another ground school will be starting on the 2nd of January, then another will start about a week or two later, and then ANOTHER before the end of January!

And I am pleased to announce that myself and the other 23 new crew in my ground school have voted unanimously to accept a new Collective Agreement that has been negotiated between Team Jetstar and the FAAA. Yay!

The contract we signed initially wasn't actually an AWA, it was a common law contract - an agreement between the individual and the company, ie. Team JQ. Well the FAAA got involved and had high-level talks with the new Team Jetstar management (Team JQ is a fully-owned subsidiary of Jetstar Airways) and a LOT of our pay and conditions have been improved modestly - but most importantly there are boundaries and assurances in place, or in WRITING, that weren't there under the previous contract. As well as guarantees of pay increases for each year of the 5 year agreement, and a re-negotiation on duty hours and rest periods at midpoint of the agreement (in about 2-3 years). We even had one of the chiefs from the FAAA come in last week to have a frank talk to us about what he thought of our initial offer compared to what he and the union were able to negotiate with Team JQ in the new agreement.

So we're all a lot happier that we've voted in this new agreement which ALL new cabin crew working for Jetstar will be signed under. And incase you hadn't already assumed; all future recruits to Jetstar cabin crew will indeed be employed under Team Jetstar.

Having said that, myself and the others in my ground school are a bit excited in that as an upside to our longer planned duty hours and maximum extendable duty hours we will now be considered for occasional international sectors on the A330 or the new regional international sectors on the A321. We're still domestic crew and will primarily fly domestic sectors for most of our roster periods though.

My ground school is only being trained on the A320 and we'll come back to do a 4 day conversion course for the A321 and A330 some time in the following few weeks once we're checked to line. However, the next ground school starting early Jan will have all 3 types included in their training.

I personally think it's quite exciting. It's the way the company is headed and you've just gotta go with it or be left behind I say - me and my friends at ground school are looking forward to the massive expansion that Jetstar will be undergoing in 2008.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 00:59
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The way of the future!!!!

I can tell with comments like that, that you are definately new to this game. Spare a thought that you will always be on a different wicket to the crew that are currently on line!!!!

Plus, not that I want to burst your bubble or anything, but you guys in accepting employment with JQ on less attractive conditions are cheapening the proffession!!!!

You will still be working more hours than the rest of us. And as excited as you may be now, I can guarantee that Team Jetstar will have higher sick leave than the old crew!!! You guys are going to be worked into the ground.
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 00:02
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Question no news here

Hi everybody! anyone else got a start date? I have not heard back yet. Should i be worried?
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 10:34
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Interview 8th Jan 08

Hey Guys,

I have a interview on
the 8th January 2008, I am very excited and a little nervous, I was wondering if anyone could please help me with the type of questions that are asked on the day? And also it states in the email that if progessed to the second interview, it will be held the following day (9th Jan? What does this interview involved, is that the morning tea??)
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 10:40
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hey norge

I finished my medical and ASIC clearance start of DEC, then out of the blue 2 weeks ago I got a phone call for an offer of employment. My ground school starts 14 th Jan (pretty excited) Just hang in there guys, your phone call is probably not to in the distant future.
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 21:31
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Well said A320 GB, these new crew are saying they are 'excited' by the modest increase in t's & c's etc, if only they realise that they could have alot better still! It's simple, just DO NOT take a job with Jetstar on those conditions. If the airline could not get people to work for that money on those conditions then they would have to improve the offer..........

Also, regarding the conditions etc, can any Team Jetstar person(perhaps Want2Fly!) confirm exactly what your duty hours can be and what rest periods you are entitled to?
What is your max hours per DUTY and per ROSTER(and is it calander month or 28 days??)

Thanks
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 07:32
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BlokeHostie:
This is according to the T's+C's that TeamJQ sent me.

Planned duty hous will either be:
i) Up to 152 hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours, rostered over a 28 day roster period OR
ii)Up to 164.67 hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours, rostered over a month where a month is defined in clause 1A in Appensix A OR
iii)Some other arrangement of 1976 ordinary hours (which may be average over a period of up to 12 months) plus reasonable additional hours.

Annual Base Salary
You will be paid an annual base salary of $32,500. The annual base salary includes all payments and allowmances other than those specified in clause 31. The salary covers all allowances for expenses and conditions associated with your work including grooming, laundry, uniforms, shoes, shift and miscellaneous expenses.

The base hourly rate wil be calculated using the following formula:
Applicable annual base salary/1976

Cut short on the next stuff, there is a domestic flying allowance of $11.40per/hr

Give us your thoughts people.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 07:34
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Also that you are not guarenteed 8days off/month, they are averaged over 12 months (ie you could have 4 one month then 12 the next) and 28days annual leave.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 09:40
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Wow sounds great. Sick leave will be low. Moral will be high. All in all a good deal. Congrats to all those who come on board.... Oh and I am being sarcastic
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 10:06
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I've worked under a common law contract with a different company before.

For those here who have a copy of the contract and are taking the offer seriously I would like you to do me a favour. Go grab yourself a highlighter, preferably orange in colour. I want you to highlight every place in that contract that has "resonable" after a statement.

I will tell you that your view of resonable and the company's view of resonable will be somewhat different.

Enjoy life at team JQ.



and smartalec, i'm not too sure which angle you're trying to take here. One minute you're slagging off Jetstar about concrete and the 330. Next thing you're telling us all that you have a team JQ contract.

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Old 27th Dec 2007, 12:44
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smartalec - there is no such thing as "minimum take-off weight".

You may however need ballast to put the a/c into correct weight & balance - however this can be required even when aircraft are close to their maximum take off weight.
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 02:16
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i shiver at the thought of 'reasonable' additional hours - for you it may mean being allowed to go an hour over your limit - for me it means its the end of the month and you are already way out of hours - but they will now work you on 'reaonable additional hours' - you will probably be ROSTERED to your maximum hour limit each month and then given standby days in addition - and any delays just add on as part of the 'reasonable' bit.
Sorry but that sucks. I know what they are like now - i cant imagine they will treat the ability to work you into the ground 'reasonably'
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 06:39
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A_B_P

If you pay peanuts....

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Old 28th Dec 2007, 07:02
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airbusthreetwenty,

couldn't have said it better myself.
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