I agree with BizJetJockey.....info from all sides is good, but we don't need all the insults and such!!

Loose cannons et al
 

Now now guys, lets keep our cool and keep it constructive...this turkey shoot ain't over by a long shot. :}


:ok:

Let's keep cool
 

O.K lets keep things calm.Its no good slagging off CEO,s etc.Maybe the point is already being proved in the battle to hire expat FO,s.I met a couple of Bjets guys last weekend,who were on yet another brush up course in the sim, to get them through their Type Rating. :ugh:
In the international world of aviation, it doesn't matter where you come from or who you are.If you dont cut the mustard.........You're not supposed to pass! "If" theses guys do get through,how would the chief pilot feel about flying with them?:O
Thoughts anyone?.

Info from all sides if good....but i have come to notice on PPRUNE that if someone is even remotely bitter about something, thay have to tell the whole world and his wife about it. That's when it get's tedious. There's nothing wrong with a moan but know when to stop because to be honest it isn't really gonna get you anywhere and you'll just end up winding yourself up more and more!!! :*

Relax! :ok:

Hello
 

Hi

I heard that Bjets have one of their new Hawkers at EBACE, any one seen any pics or taken any ?

Regards

Spam Up

It's the first Hawker on it's way to India apparently! Looks like good progress to me!

Must see a pic!

Hello
 

Hi

Yup ! progress ! I also seen an article yesterday that they have ordered 10 Hawker 4000's, so they are obviously serious about what they are doing !

http://news.webindia123.com/news/Art...21/958528.html

Would love to see a pic too ! anyone seen ?

Spam Up

Anyone thinking of heading out to Hyderabad might just want to hang back for a bit before getting involved.

The CP is one foot out the door. Other managers and directors must also be wavering. Could this be anything to do with the new pay arrangements about to be imposed on the troops?

In a stunning display of piss poor man management the COO/CEO is to announce that in future salaries will be split 70/30 and paid in India and Singapore where the tax rates are 30% and 15% respectively. Not at all what everyone was told at recruitment. To rub salt in the wound neither country has reciprocal tax agreements with either the US or UK from where most of the pilots have so far been recruited so a potential for double tax bills there.

No life insurance is in place for crew.

No medical cover is in place for US pilots.

No liability cover is in force.

Crew expenses are regularly knocked back for no apparent reason. Pilots who have bought air tickets to get to work out of their own pockets are being told to resubmit their claims the following month.

Still no company credit cards for line crew.

Finally, the HR director (an absolute charmer) has no less than five complaints of sexual harassment and racism against him so at least those who remain won't have to put up with his threats any more.

Apart from that it's a great place to be!

Hi
 

How do you know all this ? Do you work for the company ?


Spam up

I am surprised the CP has lasted as long as he has.

Remember this. The Indians are the new master race of Asia. Any expat that comes to India in a management capacity and thinking he/she will achieve anything, is mistaken. They will lie, cheat, weave, duck, dive, stall or you name it they will do it, to screw you one way or the other. It has to be a local, with "Clout" to get anything down whatsoever.

India is still a third world country, living in the dark ages.

Any expat that is employed in India and is not happy I would suggest you get another job while there are some going. Otherwise it will be India or nothing. Difficult one to call, which would be best actually.

Spam Up.

I assure you this comes from some very good sources.

doubleu-anker is right. This is a third world country suddenly finding itself with a big bag of money. They don't have the experience to handle the growth yet many resent the expats who can do it for them so set about 'spiking' them. Add to this someone at the top who has absolutely NO concept of how to motivate the troops and you have successfully made this start up almost impossible.

Gandhi Was bandy.:D:D:D:D
Rose tinted glasses not required,although some people posting on this thread seem to be wearing them!
If certain people could correctly interpret the info being given to them by individuals with some knowledge,then they might just see the "big picture."
What might seem like a "Tedious Rant" from someone who might be "bitter" on a recent previous post,was in fact questioning the need to put 2 guys on an extra lot of playtime in an F.N.P.T.II sim whilst in the middle of a T.R course.Not normal I think!
So you can look at the pic of the gleaming new aircraft at EBACE but there might be more important topics to discuss!

Hi !
 

Hello

So where is the piccy of the gleaming new aircraft then ?

Spam Up

Gandhi was Bandy,


Has there been any reports on how much flying has actually been done?



Pilot Positive

About as much flying as might be expected with not one aircraft share sold yet.

If the CP, FM and maintenance director go (followed by members of their teams) this will put the company back six months.

As far as unpaid expenses are concerned, it may be an idea to "destroy/loose" your personal credit card. This will reduce most of you expenses claims in the future.

Just keep enough cash for your ticket out.

Nothing will be gained by being negative
 

Nothing will be gained by being negative...

Having said that, keep it coming everyone, including Gandhi, your input is welcome.

As chipieflyer said:

Personally I can't see this imploding yet, it's just a case of how much stress folks can take and how much waiting around people are prepared to do. There will be 'casualties' of course.

My favourite quote of the thread so far comes from Pilot Positive and makes a good point in less words than I can:

Yep, I can only say that all this input is welcome... Especially given the total lack of information given by BJets to its crews...

I'm inclined to agree!!!

Bjets
 

So is this company for real - will it happen - are they are cheap organization even with Tata behind them.

:E