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BizJetJockey 25th August 2008 10:10

Move it to Singapore where the Business community are a lot more friendly. It should have been done a long time ago. Less bull:mad: and the country is ready for this type of operation. Plus it's geographical location is perfect. Why do all the carriers use it as a stop off point on the way to Oz etc.etc? No brainer as far as I can see.

India might be a rapidly expanding economy but this is the problem...it's expanding way too fast. Yes BJETS is a great idea but i think it is seen as an operation that is too monopolizing and those smaller companies that are already established feel threatened. They are going to do anything in their power to hamper this. Money talks!:eek:

Flintstone 26th August 2008 13:44

Watch this space. Things may become...interesting ;)

Flyingthru 3rd September 2008 03:18

Still watching.:rolleyes:

Flintstone 3rd September 2008 11:17

Impatient, aren't we?

Twin2040 3rd September 2008 20:13

Absolutely !

Flintstone 3rd September 2008 22:35

Dispensation granted to BJets for some expat FO's. No idea if this is a pre-cursor to more or a group of one-offs (can you have more than one 'one off'? :confused:)

Flyingthru 4th September 2008 03:35

So, you're saying some have been allowed to stay? I was just told last week that even FO's who have been validated and approved are now having their validations revoked. LOTS of rule changing going on it seems.

Flintstone 4th September 2008 19:53

Hmmmm, who knows? Last I heard a small number were allowed to stay providing they upgrade to PIC "soon".

Nothing would surprise me though in that part of the world.:rolleyes:

fly2fly 5th September 2008 12:06

Yes, but they still need to meet PIC requirements for a PIC validation, which is not the case of 99% of them.
This DGCA, I'm telling you...
What a shame!

Flintstone 5th September 2008 13:19

I was told they were alowed with the proviso that they made the requirements in a short time. Just heard that 'someone' has changed their mind :rolleyes: and the deal's off.

Flyingthru 6th September 2008 00:40

Was it you Flinstone or another clever one that said they keep moving the goal post? If they could make any rule - no matter how lofty - and just stick with the ruling things wouldn't be such a holy mess. Best of luck to anyone that decides to or is flying over there.

Pilot Positive 7th September 2008 15:17

Ice melting?
 
Flintstone,

The fact they have considered this new provisio could be good news as it suggests they are becoming a little more flexible and perhaps open-minded? Given your experience any thoughts about which way things are likely to turn?


Pilot Positive :)

BizJetJockey 7th September 2008 15:38

To be honest i think it would be easier to just disregard any decision the DGCA makes because it is blatantly obvious that they are never going to follow through. I personally think they thrive on causing chaos! :ooh:

Flintstone 7th September 2008 17:02

I wish I could disagree with BJJ (not because I want a fight but because it would mean things were looking up) but I can't. Agreements seem to be easily broken in that aprt of the world with egos, politics and dare I say it money all playing a part*. Bloody disappointing as a lot of hard work has gone and continues to go into starting BJets up.

I really hope things change for the better, a lot of good people stand to lose out otherwise.





*Purely my view of things from a distance and in no way 'official'.

Treetopflyer 16th September 2008 12:04

Well, my personal (and short) experience with BJets:

- Went through interview with some fine gentlemen who were only contracted by the company to hire expats.

- Got an answer from the company only 2 months later, hiring me as Captain. We exchanged paperwork, contracts, bank details and the like.

- One month after contract start date, I had no news (and no replies to my emails / phone calls), and more importantly no salary was paid to my account.

- One month and a half after contract start date, still with no money paid by the company, I was given a training course date. Luckily, by that time, I had found another job with a more serious operator, so I was able to decline and move on.

That's what happened to me. I'm sure given the general mess in HR over there, everyone's experience will be different. Yet I would not advise anybody to go there, unless they can't find anything else, or are getting their first jet job.

GUSTO 17th September 2008 12:54

Well I experienced similar behavior with BJET . Interview , ect ...
I have been waiting for my contract for the last 2 month or so , but since then , nothing ... only promess it will arrive next week ...

If a company behave like that don't even bother ... and try to get another job somewhere else .

Hey Treetoflyer do you enjoy the Falcon :ok:?

Treetopflyer 17th September 2008 19:15

Love it... :cool:

So BJets did not work for you either, uh?

Cya around...

Frynog 18th September 2008 02:59

Just out of interest, any FOs mind sharing what hours they were accepted with?

Flyingthru 18th September 2008 05:42

Frynog - unless you're Indian your not going to get an SIC job with them. Read through the thread. Pretty ugly.

Frynog 18th September 2008 08:09

I understand that, just wondering what people were initially getting in with.


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