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HondaJet pilot report?
Has anyone see a pilot report for the HondaJet? I've seen reports for the Citation M2 and Phenom 100, but not for the HondaJet.
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There is a neat video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9cXN5Bsng |
I've noticed the absence of those too. Generally the major monthly publications, send their guy out to fly the thing, where we can get some semblance of real world numbers. There's nothing of the sort with the Honda so far. It makes one wonder if either the aviation media and/or Honda have something to hide.
Other than looking different with the above wing engines, I doubt that there's anything different performance wise than what other airplanes in this category offer. But it's Honda, so a lot of non-aviation types think it's the greatest thing to come along since the Wright Bros. |
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Originally Posted by eelb
(Post 9280451)
I've noticed the absence of those too. Generally the major monthly publications, send their guy out to fly the thing, where we can get some semblance of real world numbers. There's nothing of the sort with the Honda so far. It makes one wonder if either the aviation media and/or Honda have something to hide.
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No new field performance figures post certification are promulgated yet, still only the old pre-certification sales brochure very broad-brush estimates. What we want is the real landing (in particular) and take-off figures for this speedy, slippery jet with tiny little brakes and not a lot of lift dump capability, albeit there's the clam-shell type brakes as an option but not as standard fit.
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Originally Posted by sellbydate
(Post 9282991)
No new field performance figures post certification are promulgated yet, still only the old pre-certification sales brochure very broad-brush estimates. What we want is the real landing (in particular) and take-off figures for this speedy, slippery jet with tiny little brakes and not a lot of lift dump capability, albeit there's the clam-shell type brakes as an option but not as standard fit.
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Now customer deliveries have begun, including into Europe with people like RAS in Germany and presumably other dealers like TAG(?), surely some of those real figures are out in the public domain for field performance, albeit FAA only? No mention of a date for EASA certification still, perhaps that will be an announcement at EBACE later in the month?
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The HondaJet interior fit, finish, and material quality is well behind a competitive Citation 525 series product or a EMB-500, with poor panel and cabinetry fitment. The cockpit is very tight, with panels and switch gear that are car-like but cheap and likely to be prone to breakage and failure. The view out the front is distorted by the heat elements. Refueling is accomplished via an aft RH fuselage fill port where the filler cap is left to dangle and damage the paint.
Performance will have to be outstanding to make up for an otherwise unimpressive design execution. |
In the ten years it's taken Honda to get this pocket rocket to market, Embraer have delivered a thousand business jets....you'd think they'd have time to iron out a few little quirks
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The nose is oddly shaped to provide lift. The engines over the wing provides more cabin space relative to the length/weight of the aircraft.
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It's the cover story in Plane & Pilot this month. P&P's new editor (and the pilot/writer of the article) is Robert Goyer, so you wonder if he struck some kind of deal that he'd get the first exclusive for his new mag instead of the guys that fired him at Flying.
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Good article. He was very positive to it.
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Flew in one last week. PAX wise, does what it says on the tin. Quiet in the cabin, ride was good, didn't feel too full with 6 on board. I didn't think the build quality was too bad - not much by way of squeaks or rattles in the cruise.
I'd want to fly in an M2 on the same day before making a decision as to which one I'd buy (completely ignoring the numbers & potential operational difficulties inherent with a new type from a new manufacturer). |
There's a Pilot report in my latest copy of Flying as well (don't know if its the same one RG wrote for Plane and Pilot)
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Thank you! Here it is online: We Fly It First: HondaJet Arrives! - Plane & Pilot Magazine
This sentence in the article is a puzzler to me: Honda Aircraft has worked exceptionally hard to keep the airplane from being flown and those impressions publicized, much to the frustration of aviation journalists like me, not to mention consumers, who are wondering what all the buzz is about. |
Originally Posted by OFBSLF
(Post 9389485)
Thank you! Here it is online: We Fly It First: HondaJet Arrives! - Plane & Pilot Magazine
This sentence in the article is a puzzler to me: Why would Honda want to keep this under wraps? Why not grab the free publicity? I don't get it. |
BCA has one in their june edition
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Anyone like Pete Collins going to fly it and give it a more technical and less journalistic appraisal?
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AviationWeek just printed their pilot report:
HondaJet | Analysis and Pilot Report | Business Aviation content from Aviation Week The HondaJet interior fit, finish, and material quality is well behind a competitive Citation 525 series product or a EMB-500, with poor panel and cabinetry fitment. But the Profile only tells part of the story. The HondaJet raises the bar in entry-level light jets for passenger comfort, cabin quiet and baggage capacity. Optional luxury features, such as an externally serviced toilet and lavatory with running water, are not available in other light jets. The aircraft also has the best ride quality in turbulence of any entry-level light jet in production, in our opinion. Fit and finish of this aircraft are unsurpassed in its class. Exterior surface tolerances are tight, all doors fit precisely and the paintwork is superb. The interior furnishings also are first rate, befitting of an aircraft that sells for more than $5.1 million with options. |
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