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osbo 22nd May 2017 22:46

No, it's made very clear in the article, 20 knots is not a demonstrated limit, it is THE limit!

Rather limiting, if you'll excuse the pun.

stilton 23rd May 2017 05:18

I think I would find it a bit unusual to have a downward pitch input when adding
thrust and vice versa.


I guess you's get used to it !

lekkerste 23rd May 2017 10:37

Can this be flown single-crew by an owner? It seemed to suggest that in a promo video I saw. I find the design intriguing, though coming from an airline background I know nothing of its competitors. The brand recognition has to be a big advantage.

As far as x-wind goes, in the type I fly (B744) in EASA-land, it is not a hard limit but a 'guideline'.

what next 23rd May 2017 17:28


Originally Posted by lekkerste (Post 9779733)
Can this be flown single-crew by an owner?

Yes.


Originally Posted by lekkerste (Post 9779733)
I find the design intriguing, though coming from an airline background I know nothing of its competitors. The brand recognition has to be a big advantage.

The design is also intriguing when used to fly the competitors :) About the brand recognition thing I am not so sure. For me, this is a brand name for motorcycles and lawnmowers.


Originally Posted by lekkerste (Post 9779733)
As far as x-wind goes, in the type I fly (B744) in EASA-land, it is not a hard limit but a 'guideline'.

But I am sure your flight operations department has made that a hard limit for you as well by putting a figure in the OM-B.

lekkerste 23rd May 2017 18:55

Hmm, interesting. I haven't seen the above-wing mounted pylons before. Are you saying this has already been done on competitor aircraft?

The x-wind 'guideline' in our FCTM is just that, a 'guideline' and the previous hard limit was removed specifically to give us latitude if required. Granted you'd have to have a good reason to make use of it.

megan 24th May 2017 01:30


I haven't seen the above-wing mounted pylons before
VFW 614. First flown in 1971, less than 20 built. Operators Cimber Air, Air Alsace, Touraine Air Transport and West German Air Force.

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/...v=v46649287e15

Aerodynamics of the concept.

http://www.hondajet.com/Content/pdf/...Drag_OTWEM.pdf

Other papers.

Technical Papers - HondaJet

DirtyProp 24th May 2017 10:12

I'm actually more interested in the engine than the plane itself, curious to see how it will compare against the competition.
Opinions, anyone?


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