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MikeNYC 13th Jul 2012 14:31

GIV Crash - LFMQ / Le Castellet
 
Updated thread title to Gulfstream as new information arises...

Six Trapped After Jet Crashes In France


Six Trapped After Jet Crashes In France
Emergency services are trying to put out the blazing Mystere-Falcon which came down in France.

A private jet has crashed in flames at the end of a runway in the south of France a police source told AFP.

Emergency services are trying to put out the blazing Mystere-Falcon 20 whose passengers are reportedly foreign. The accident happened at Castellet airport, between Marseille and Toulon.

StressFree 13th Jul 2012 14:52

'Emergency services are trying to put out the blazing Mystere-Falcon 20 whose passengers are reportedly all US citizens. The accident happened at Castellet airport, between Marseille and Toulon.

Unconfirmed reports say the passengers were all US citizens and five are believed to have died.'

Monkey Boy 13th Jul 2012 14:56

It looks like it's not a Falcon 20, but a GIV (yet to be confirmed)! If I'm wrong, of course I'll remove this post.

Tmbstory 13th Jul 2012 15:04

Falcon 20 Accident south of France
 
Monkey Boy:

The photo shown above is a Falcon 20 and not a Gulfstream.

Stratocaster 13th Jul 2012 15:05

French news websites report it was a G-IV with three American crew members on board (aged 24, 61 and 30) who -unfortunately- died. They mention a technical issue in flight. The aircraft took off from Nice and reportedly broke up in two, with one part ending up in a nearby lake and the other taking fire.

MikeNYC 13th Jul 2012 15:07

Latest from CNN:


Paris (CNN) -- Three Americans died when a private jet crashed at a small airport in the south of France, a local official said Friday.
Two men, aged 24 and 51, and a 30-year-old woman were on board the plane when it crashed at Castellet airport, said Didier Couve, spokesman for the Prefecture of the Var department.
The three were the only people on the plane, Couve said.
A spokeswoman for the airport said emergency services are on site.
The plane crashed at the end of the runway, she said.
The aerodrome is between the cities of Marseille and Toulon, on the Mediterranean coast.

Monkey Boy 13th Jul 2012 15:07


Monkey Boy:

The photo shown above is a Falcon 20 and not a Gulfstream.


Of course - the press never make mistakes do they? My source is a little more reliable than Sky News.

MikeNYC 13th Jul 2012 15:17

Possible aircraft (unverified):

https://twitter.com/BizJetBlogger/st...94946463891456

Gulfstream IV msn 1005 / N823GA crashes in France on a ferry flight from Nice to La Castellet, all 3 crew reported dead. #bizav #bizjet

oldchina 13th Jul 2012 15:21

Flat Spin
 
At least we haven't had the compulsory "tragic accident" description, as opposed to the usual comical or joyful ones, of course.

His dudeness 13th Jul 2012 16:01

A flightplan for N823GA Nice-Le Castellet existed. So, thats a high likelyhood.

All other G4 out of Nice went some places else...

CaptainProp 13th Jul 2012 16:23

1986 build Gulfstream IV msn 1005 / N823GA operated by Universal Jet Aviation as flight number UJT823.... Flew ATH-SAW-NCE and then ferry to Le Castellet by the looks of things.....

Zeffy 13th Jul 2012 16:28

Pilot’s guide – Aéroport International du Castellet

What approaches are available?

The airport web site says an ILS -- but AIP does not appear to have one listed.https://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv..._AD-2.LFMQ.pdf

jr of dallas 13th Jul 2012 17:12

Jepp's shows only NDB and circling approaches

Tony Mabelis 13th Jul 2012 17:43

MSN 1005.......First production GIV.

sitigeltfel 13th Jul 2012 17:48

La Provence reporting that the two flight deck crew age 61 and 24, and the hostess aged 30, were the only victims.

Le Castellet | Crash d'un jet au Castellet : trois morts | La Provence

Trim Stab 13th Jul 2012 19:48

Zeffy,

Definitely no ILS, landed there dozens of times.

Runway is on a plateau and subject to strong cross winds and turbulence. Anybody got the METARS yet?

Globalstream 13th Jul 2012 20:11

Le Castellet has several circling NDB approaches and as has been mentioned, there are several gotchas. That strong turbulence is suddenly blanketed by the treeline from about 25 feet or so and the deceiving, " J" shaped runway can greatly compound float. Not an Aspen or Samedan, but one to be respected.

I have worried about an accident at Castellet and it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a late touchdown and departure from the runway. I think it also sits on a plateau from memory.

LGW Vulture 13th Jul 2012 21:10

Again, its a Universal Jet Aviation operated aircraft, the plug needs to be pulled!

http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...inces-jet.html

....a note I made some time ago!! :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Zeffy 13th Jul 2012 21:25

IS-BAO + Wyvern Wingman + ARG/US Platinum endorsements.

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LGW Vulture 13th Jul 2012 21:28

You can get any accreditation if you are willing to pay for it! :mad:


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