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Vone Rotate 23rd Nov 2011 21:15

If I was getting paid a wage to fly corporate equipment that matched my current job I wouldn't be too fussed if it was 100 hrs a year or 900.
The key for me is just having one job to concentrate on rather that the 4 I currently juggle. I would do instructing full time but it simply isn't enough. Not enough hours for single pilot ops so I need a FO position for my break....
Anyone need one?!!!!

I.R.PIRATE 23rd Nov 2011 22:37

What are you typed on?

I.R.PIRATE 24th Nov 2011 11:00

Calm down to a panic folks, I don't have jobs to hand out. I just want to know Vone is rated on, so if I hear of something that fits his bill I could pass the word on.

So sorry, and good luck to all those that contacted me.:ok::ok:

Talkingtothedeaf 24th Nov 2011 16:38

Interesting thread.

I think I will tone down the experience section on my resume and try to fit in more hobbies, clubs, associations...try to hit all bases, maybe if the chief pilot knows that I play Monopoly like he does, It will push my resume to the top of the pile.

Vone Rotate 24th Nov 2011 19:26

I'm not typed on anything I.R Pirate.

I wouldn't with out a job in line. Even more so in the corporate world as there are loads of types. I don't particually agree with the principle but guys who want an airline job I can se how an A320 stamp might help but like I say, I'm not into all that.

I'm only a 'safety pilot' on the Kingair so no type rating required. It's single pilot ops anyway.

Thanks for offering to keep an eye out. Hope your inbox as had a chance to catch it's breath now:ok:

Dream Land 25th Nov 2011 01:33

Finding a job as a low time pilot is always tough, I recommend that a person try to take a little more initiative than the last pilot, sending a resume to a flight department is minimal effort. As mentioned in this thread, your usually not just a driver at a corporate flight department, you are actually part of a mini airline, marketing, financial planning, scheduling, maintenance etc.

Pilots that only want to be concerned with flying, shouldn't even consider going to a biz jet operation. CP's that are disappointed with experienced airline crews are probably doing a poor job of interviewing or training.

I.R.PIRATE 25th Nov 2011 12:37

I'd say 'flying' is about 20% of what a corporate job is about. Most monkeys can get the machine to go from a to b, but the other aspects really determine which monkey makes a good corporate operator.

His dudeness 25th Nov 2011 21:17


I'm doing over 500 hours a year, get paid well, and am treated nicely.

I also know folks who do a lot less so Mutt isn't wrong, but there are corporate jobs where you do get to gain hours and experience at a rate usually associated with regional airline stuff.
I do around 300hrs a year (plus some freelancing) and for me thats enough....

Lets not forget that hours doesn´t mean too much. Whats your average trip lenght? (how many landings do you do?) Ours is like 1,5hrs...


CP's that are disappointed with experienced airline crews are probably doing a poor job of interviewing or training.
I find it really hard to get to know a person within an interview or hiring process. I hired people that disappointed me deeply and vice versa. In fact, the guy I thought would be a wash out and was only hired because we needed someone on the spot and he had the rating went on to be one of the best colleagues I ever flew with.
I for one can't sell my self very well and I suppose that is true for a lot guys. Sometimes the stress level for guys in an interview is sky high.

corporate-pilot 25th Nov 2011 21:40


Lets not forget that hours doesn´t mean too much. Whats your average trip lenght? (how many landings do you do?) Ours is like 1,5hrs...

Last time I checked it was an average of around 0.8, plenty of cycles.

INNflight 27th Nov 2011 07:35

While I agree with you saying "hours are not everything" and "I do 300 a year and for me that's enough", I can see how someone with low time / starting out wants to fly as much as possible.

With the job market being so unstable someone who has 2000hrs TT after three years in a position will simply have a better chance at finding something new (if needed) than someone who has 800 TT after three years.

Gaww.... tough times. :\

Wilga 12th Dec 2011 00:23

You have to network... I was an instructor with nearly 2000 hrs... Decided that I needed to go and work at a busy airport so went to one of the big corporate airports in UK and got a ground based job which I hated but it got my foot in the door and I met alot of people around the Airport... After 8 months I landed on my feet flying a biz jet.. Best move I made..

Bon chance:ok:

AirBizz 12th Dec 2011 09:18

I fly also a bizzjet and did this year 795 hrs. That is a lot (I think). On top
of this I work as the deputy director of flight operations.

The crew you fly is very important in bizzjet aviation. Simply because I spend more time with them then with my own family.

I have flown with many nationalities,experienced pilots, and even with pilots with less then 500 hrs.
Skills and knowledge can be thought, I find that the easy part. Attitude and personality that is the real hard part.
We are always looking for pilots who are willing to solve a problem. Not pilots who make out of a problem a problem.

Fly safe!!

slr737 13th Dec 2011 06:21

That's quite a lot 795 hours in a year on bizz aircraft! which company is it?


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