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ShinjukuHustler 15th Mar 2008 12:02

JetBird
 
Apologies to the Mods if this Q has been raised elsewhere but I honestly did try to find it before posting...Anyway

Jetbird...Anyone got any info on these guys? Location, proposed start dates, AOC in hand?
Anyone else doing this anywhere at the moment?

www.flyjetbird.com


Seems like now might not be the best time for something like this to kick off what with contracting financial markets and overall creeping global uncertainty...Best of luck to them regardless...


Hustle On :ok:

Duck Rogers 15th Mar 2008 13:14

Upset? Moi?

The nearest I could find to a meaningful a thread was this which I assume you saw too. Nothing else buried in the archives. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hlight=jetbird Doesn't tell you much though.

I'm sure there'll be someone along soon who will tell us how Jetbird are the new best thing since sliced bread though if they have a post count of "1" I'd be healthily sceptical of their motives if I were you. ;)



Duck

SWBKCB 15th Mar 2008 16:47

Well, they seem to think Malta is somewhere between Minsk and Helsinki - look at the maps showing the range of their Phenoms...:suspect:

ShinjukuHustler 16th Mar 2008 11:12

small issue of fuel price
 
Since this idea was conceived sometime in 2006, there is a 'small' issue of the 2008 fuel price. With the price of a barrel of black gloop bobbing up n down around the $100/pb mark then I'm sure continuous tweaking of the business plan is required. My guess is that fuel has gone from being somewhere in the teens to now being in the mid 20's percentile of their projected operating costs.

It also sounds like Emb are being a little coy with the exact performance figures for their shiny new toy so there may be a further few surprises in store regarding fuel burns.


BTW...if anyone wants a good laugh you should check out this lot...
www.smintair.com
...and read the letter from the CEO, the nutty professor comes to mind.

Hustle On:ok:

sispanys ria 16th Mar 2008 13:00

As for Blink, the Phenom will make it hard to achieve the expected DOC. On those short ranges, any thrust reduction due to heat will affect the rate of climb, thus flight time and consumption with a serious impact. Avantis would definitely do a better job.

Iver 1st Feb 2009 18:15

Why do they think they can succeed in this down economy? Is it a situation where they expect owners of larger aircraft to downsize and use this type of service? I presume they will roll-out slowly and hope the economy gradually improves...

I hear the Phenom 100 is a fun airplane to fly. Here's a link to the pilot section of their website (describes Phenom 100 flightdeck, etc.):

Fly JetBird - Pilots

Might be a fun airplane to fly, but I hope the pay meets expectations. Of course, they are probably likely to attract desparate furloughed pilots regardless...

batman123 27th Feb 2009 01:08

I think they pay for the training.
But it 's a single pilot plane, so even the copilot can not log anytime, and don't need a type rating.
I dont really understand what kind of rating they offer?

The Deec 27th Feb 2009 01:53

I guess the upgrades to the left will happen very quickly then.

muntisk 27th Feb 2009 12:51

Jetbird
 
I think single pilot operation is only for private, but if you have AOC 2 pilot crew should be.
I got a mail, to screening will be in Gatwick 30 march 1 April and salary co 40000eur and for cap 60000eur per year.

Iver 27th Feb 2009 13:16

Any word on initial pilot bases?

muntisk 27th Feb 2009 13:20

The first base will be in Cologne area in Germany, working schedule 5-3-5-2 and only full time pilots at this time. You will pay for your own accommodation and tickets to and from your home country if you will be commuting.

alex73 27th Feb 2009 18:24

Jetbird
 
Hi
- basic salary 60000eur gross (tax deduction as per Germany)
- travel at your own expenses (so if you're out of Cologne.....no discounted tickets at the moment...........)

aerorrancio 27th Feb 2009 22:42

type rating
 
there are two simulator by CAE one in USA and one in LONDON but i dont know how much type rating.
anyone know if jetbird pay it ?:confused::eek:

alex73 1st Mar 2009 08:46

Yeah, they pay the type rating but pilots will be bonded for 3 years

Solent Trout 1st Mar 2009 10:07

Jetbird
 

Yeah, they pay the type rating but pilots will be bonded for 3 years
Any idea of how much the bond will be? Is it linearly decreasing?

Alex73, out of interest what is your source of this info? Thanks :ok:

hs.72 2nd Mar 2009 03:58

Anyone knows more about the screening? How many are going and what are your experience?

alex73 2nd Mar 2009 19:35

Jetbird personnel is the source.....out of interest, actually the person e-mailing people to interview.
I personnally think 3 years is a huge amount........

hantesp 4th Mar 2009 09:12

interview
 
anyone received the confirmarion mail for the next interview yet???:bored:

mikehammer 4th Mar 2009 19:30

40,000 euro, pay your own travel and accommodation. Living in the UK I can't see how I would make a profit out of that. Think this is for singles only.

muntisk 5th Mar 2009 14:09

They make first interview by phone :confused: , and one of the question-are you ready to relocate??? and a lot of other questions like....last book you to read... favorite color....
And at the end will call you next week.....:ok:


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