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Iver 5th Mar 2009 16:34

If the job includes initial pilots being based at Cologne I don't see how someone could consider not relocating - at least initially. Perhaps you would have more flexibility after growth when additional domiciles should pop up.

Should be interesting to watch JetBird start up. I am curious to see how they do in this market. I guess if you can afford the switch and you don't mind a little risk, it sounds like a fun job and a nice aeroplane to fly. I wish them luck!

BizJetJockey 5th Mar 2009 18:06

I second that! There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying. People need to be more upbeat about things...it's the only way this dire crisis will get better!:ok:

flightlevel1985 5th Mar 2009 18:08

Just a quick question for people who have been contacted already. What kind of experience have you got ??

aerorrancio 7th Mar 2009 22:26

500 minimun
 
Lena told me that this year the minimun experience will be 500 hours for get a interview.
Good lucky.

PPRuNeUser0215 8th Mar 2009 09:03


If the job includes initial pilots being based at Cologne I don't see how someone could consider not relocating - at least initially. Perhaps you would have more flexibility after growth when additional domiciles should pop up.
I will tell you why someone should not consider relocating... Because if you join, convinced that it will be temporary, later on, you end up with unhappy pilots who were just naive and filled with illusions.
It happens in all companies so to avoid any disappointment and the bitterness generally seen on forums, one should join with very realistic expectations. If the job says you have to relocate to Koln then that what it says. Not that later, you will be able to move back home.

At least that's the kind of colleagues I would like to see, upbeat about their new job, location and who will remain as such because they thought about it rather than living in lalaland.

kinapilot 8th Mar 2009 13:36

Interview
 
Hey Guys

The 500 hrs is that total or jet?? Is there anybody that has be contacted for the inteview in mar/apr?? Good luck everyone:)

batman123 9th Mar 2009 16:35

i think it s 500h total to apply as a copilot.
I have more but no the 500h on jet and I have been contacted by them if I accept to be relocated.

Iver 9th Mar 2009 18:00

Just do it batman. And then tell us more about the operation once you are on the inside. Flying around Europe in an advanced jet certainly would accelerate your learning.

Cheers

YKWIA 9th Mar 2009 18:31

Do they pay allowances during initial sim training?

futureTP 9th Mar 2009 19:18

Hey guys has anyone heard any news on the interview for mar/april and does anyone know how many people they are looking for to fill their courses this year:ok: havent heard from lena yet!!:ugh:... good luck to everyone waiting hope we hear something soon...

EGCC Wannabe 10th Mar 2009 10:24

Found this dated 7th March.
Launch delayed til September-ish, due to lack of aircraft. :(

Launch date for Slattery's plane taxi company JetBird up in air - Irish, Business - Independent.ie

batman123 10th Mar 2009 23:01

well, they told me the decision is taken in dublin now, and if you are not called in march , you may be called for the next selection in june .

Mister 11th Mar 2009 22:52

Are they still accepting applications for the march interviews?.

Regards.

kinapilot 13th Mar 2009 02:12

Silent phone
 
Quick question for the lucky ones that received a phone call. What is your's experience level??:bored: Just to find out where that leaves the rest of us, where the phone has keept its silence:(. All the best to the guys who made it:D

Jackdaw 15th Mar 2009 19:59

CRI/CRE rating
 
I note that a number of agencies are now advertising for potential CRI/CRE's to train Phenom pilots in the UK. The stupid thing is that to be qualified to instruct/examine in this role requires


30 hours as a Captain on multi-engine piston aircraft - non negotiable
I'm assuming this is to meet the requirements of JAR-FCL 1.380


completed at least 30 hours as PIC on the applicable type or class of aeroplane, prior to commencing the course.
and that as next to nobody will have Phenom hours the next equivalent is multi-engine piston (and larger multi-engine jet experience obviously doesn't count!). The VLJ concept has obviously caught JAR Ops rather unaware. So pilots could potentially be taught by somebody who has no jet experience themselves, whereas someone with lots of (larger) jet time but not meeting the 30 hours Captain on multi engine piston does not qualify to be a CRI! :ugh:

wiggywoo 16th Mar 2009 17:17

Ah yes, but this is a single-pilot aircraft and, I am sure, anyone who has done both will agree with me that single-pilot IFR ops, especially in a wheeezing piston-twin, are more challenging than multi-crew, small biz-jet ops and require higher-levels of self management (stands by for barrage). Ideally, this class of aircraft requires instructors with either a) experience of both kinds of ops or b) single pilot experience with kind of aircraft - which is a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

However, I sure commercial operators will be operating multi-crew so, as the legislation stands, trainee crew could be in the sim with an instructor without multi-crew experience.

I'm sure CAE have this in mind when recruiting trainers and, just because the minimum requirements are such, it doesn't mean that is what they are looking for or prepared to accept in instructor candidates.

I think you are correct though, perhaps the legislation needs a bit of a tweak.

Flintstone 16th Mar 2009 18:08


Originally Posted by wiggywoo
Ah yes, but this is a single-pilot aircraft and, I am sure, anyone who has done both will agree with me that single-pilot IFR ops, especially in a wheeezing piston-twin, are more challenging than multi-crew, small biz-jet ops and require higher-levels of self management

No argument from this side of the room.

flyordie 19th Mar 2009 08:32

Anyone who has any other contact informaton than those listed on their website? (JetBird) Please PM me with email or phone numbers you might have.
Thanks!

krasty78 20th Mar 2009 15:37

Hi all,

I had received a called from Jetbird and I had an interview by phone. Anybody knows how many time spend to give a possitive or negative answer to the next step?

Thanks for all answers

DriverJake 20th Mar 2009 22:43

I had telephone interview a couple of days ago and they said they would be back in touch in 7 to 10 days if I was successful. For the guys that were asking earlier I've got just over 1000 hours with almost 800 on jet. Initial base Cologne with a view to being able to change in the future when UK and other European bases open. Also, first course will be in June when they will be getting just the 1 aircraft to start with. So from what I understand, they are recruiting now for only 1 or 2 crews and the rest will be in a holding pool until the autumn. Hope this helps.


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