Homer Jay 148

You can change the name of something but if the contents are still the same expect more of the same service form them, With one 17year old Hawker 800 i'm sure they'll be offering a good charter price, just enough to cover costs to bring in clients, then when it goes tech they'll sub-charter in and lose a grand or 2 per flight, Sound familiar...

Shame, they lost a lot of good people..And some not so good

Cabin Dragon

Funny tho' that the only Director listed for Direct Air Executive is the ex Finance Director of Gregg Air.



CB

Phil Brockwell

Get a grip, the new owners will be looking to build, if the team needs bolstering in places then I am sure they will do that.

Without a doubt Oxaero and Gregg Air have a contact base that anyone would want, even if they are now with other suppliers, a good sales guy making service level promises that can be delivered should certainly bring enough back into the fold to keep one Hawker going.

I cannot believe for a second that the new owners plan on carrying on with things as they have been done in the past.

Lets remember that an exec airline is not about selling hours. Selling hours is the bi-product of offering good service. With one Hawker you only really need 2 good people in the office and 3 crew members. If they can get this right and then grow organically and build a more suitable fleet I see no reason why it can't work.

It's a new era, let the past go and wish them luck (unless that Gregg bloke has anything to do with it of course)

Phil

benhurr

Erm Phil. who do you think the one sales bloke is?

Phil Brockwell

Does it matter, it's easy enough to hire good people.

Who is it by the way?

Phil

benhurr

Phil

tried to send you a PM but your box is full

Phil Brockwell

Have now emptied my box, got your mail, have replied.

Phil

Flying chimp

Interesting Phil that you think that it's easy to find good people, so many operators seem to spend a little bit longer looking so that they recruit people who know nothing about the industry.

Anyway, I'm a bit out of touch, so what's left of GreggAir???

bacardi walla

Mmmmm I remember not so long ago, that you found it hard to recruit good people

Phil Brockwell

Bacardi,

I found it hard to get pilots, I found it hard to get a post holder. All they need at Gregg Air is someone to oversee service levels.

Decide on exactly what product you want to deliver and measure how close you get to this, i'm not talking aviation people, i'm talking office managers, which are not all that rare a beast.

There is no point in having sales people untill you have a product that you can sell,

bacardi walla

Ah, now I see. Did you find your postholder and pilots ?

Greggair seem to be in a losing battle. A name change won't change the overall package, so yes, having a product to sell would be useful. Begs the question, how are they surviving ??

Phil Brockwell

We did find our Ops guy, and pilots are a constant battle because the nature of Seneca guys is that they move on to larger aircraft.

I think the only thing they have is a client list and an AOC.

britflyer

Hello,

Had a tip off that Capt Shane Armstrong was working at Greggair, is this still true as the website seems to be down.

Any news welcome...??

Steve

checklist69

Britflyer, I hope you don't heed betting tips from your source!

'69

splash&dash

Cabin DragonFunny tho' that the only Director listed for Direct Air Executive is the ex Finance Director of Gregg Air.



CB

CB

How did you find that info? i did a search on the web but couldnt find a 'direct air executive'? do they still have their Premier 1?

Cabin Dragon

Companies House.

CD

checklist69

All seems to have gone quiet at Oxford.

Any news from the Farmhouse?

'69

OLNEY 1 BRAVO

The HS125 G-OSPG seems to be flying fairly regularly from Luton and Oxford - mostly the former.

Monkey Boy

Hawker in mx until end of Feb - been doing ok from what I can tell. Good luck to them.

Fried_Chicken

The Hawker has now been re-reg'd

Fried Chicken