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Old 6th Oct 2021, 16:06
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Originally Posted by Phalare
I meant the initial online assessment, right after you applied...
Same as you i didn't receive any email after the quiz plus the 2 questions that you have to answer with your words.

May I ask you more or less your experience? Hours?

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Old 6th Oct 2021, 19:05
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Went through interview today,

all I can say is that it’s non technical / focus on who you are, why you want to join, and what makes your profile fit.

you’re asked to confirm your documents (licenses. Endorsements, flight time) but that’s only Q&A, guess the document check is done once at farnborough.

interviews are running until the 12th so not expecting an answer before that, Sim+ face 2 face interview held last week of the month in U.K

good luck to all
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 19:34
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I haven't received anything after their initial auto e-mail whereafter you are required to answer some questions. I have 4000+ airline experience and match all requirements. Really pity. The excitement has dropped to zero very fast.
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 19:41
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Hi guys, while reading your latest posts I'm already getting a little confused - how many online assessment levels are there?
My understanding was following:
1) few multichoice + two open answer questions right after the "registration"
2) "CUT-E" like assesment next

Which leaves the competency/strength/tech questions for the possible face2face session in Farnborough or this should be done as a follow up to the "CUT-E/part 2" of the online assessment (if you pass?).
I recall that the Kura FAQ file mentioned some tips for an Zoom/Teams interview, but I expected this as a "part 2" so I was fairly surprised when it contained only the "CUT-E" like tests.

Can anyone shed some light on this please? Thanks!
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 21:33
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1 is the initial with the 2 essay questions
2 is the CUT-E type assessment
3 is online Zoom Interview (running from 5-12 oct in my batch at least)
4 is simulator/face-2-face interview (25-31 oct in farnborough)

they put it into phases but that’s the way it goes
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 06:45
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Originally Posted by Winged Lion
I haven't received anything after their initial auto e-mail whereafter you are required to answer some questions. I have 4000+ airline experience and match all requirements. Really pity. The excitement has dropped to zero very fast.
Same here, 7000h, B787 and B737, SFI, bachelor degree, level 5 etc. Never got called. I know people with less experience got invited to the next stage. I dont think depends of the eassy, I reckon its just luck to get your cv picked. All the best, better is yet to come
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:10
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Originally Posted by Tailstrik
Same here, 7000h, B787 and B737, SFI, bachelor degree, level 5 etc. Never got called. I know people with less experience got invited to the next stage. I dont think depends of the eassy, I reckon its just luck to get your cv picked. All the best, better is yet to come
Same here guys, 7000h+ on comercial airlines, including wide body and no answer yet... but better days will come for us!
All the best and safe flights!
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:14
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Good luck to you all! Indeed, better times will come for our airline brothers and sisters, don't despair.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:43
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Good luck to you all! Indeed, better times will come for our airline brothers and sisters, don't despair.
I come from the GA world so it's not only the airlines guys. Good luck to all anyways!
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:47
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8000+ Hours on global networks, wide body, incl PIC hours , with FI rating and recent activity….
whether you are airliner or GA , experience or not, let’s be humble! Over 1200 applicants for only just below a 100 seats, it’s a tough job to select in between the hours and ratings for everyone
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 10:55
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There’s always a bit of lottery I guess when the market is saturated in the wrong way. The “cut-e” thresholds can also be adjusted percentile wise to be very sensitive.
4000+ H mostly airline, 3 years customer service exec.
I doubt heavy/pic/FI hours matter much to go for years RHS of a 8T MTOW.

anyway, best of luck to all.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 10:56
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Good luck to you all! Indeed, better times will come for our airline brothers and sisters, don't despair.
In my experience, pilots who have only known airline ops, cope relatively poorly with the flexibility, common sense and personal VVIP client service required of biz jets; and the ones who rubbed everyone up the wrong way with an "attitude" have all been Flag carrier retirees - in a couple of cases, unmitigated nightmares! Most operators are aware of this history, so that's probably a factor. A colleague got to interview with similar experience, but also had a lot of bizjet experience, plus a licence issued by a country which NJ needs.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 11:17
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Originally Posted by Joe le Taxi
In my experience, pilots who have only known airline ops, cope relatively poorly with the flexibility, common sense and personal VVIP client service required of biz jets; and the ones who rubbed everyone up the wrong way with an "attitude" have all been Flag carrier retirees - in a couple of cases, unmitigated nightmares! Most operators are aware of this history, so that's probably a factor. A colleague got to interview with similar experience, but also had a lot of bizjet experience, plus a licence issued by a country which NJ needs.
Hmm, there's no general rule. Netjets is looking for the best of both worlds: SOP-discipline and CRM-skills that are far better in airlines than in GA, flexibility and an open mind that are more developed in GA. From the days that I got hired, I remember this German gentleman who showed up for his interview and SIM-ride in bluejeans and a leather pilot jacket. Oh well...
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 12:20
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SOP - to a degree, but if a circumstance arises which isn't A-Z encyclopedically covered by the ops manual, I sometimes find the airline's new-gen FOs are lost and out of ideas (whizzes at the "search" function though!). CRM - I'm afraid I totally disagree - biz jet pilots are aces at drawing on incredibly diverse resources, from sourcing catering, building a professional and courteous relationship with client and other crew alike... through to eg refilling a flight plan on the hoof, and basically just being pleasant and intelligent company for a five day trip.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 12:57
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I'll leave you believing what you wrote
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 13:16
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Still think the recruitment should be held in a bar, anyone can learn SOPs, but can they keep smiling after five 6am shows. Personality is a massive factor to having a good tour or a bad one. Those with all those hours and big plane experience, are you really going to stay on the right seat in Netjets when the big airlines are calling. It’s happened before and will happen again so as you can imagine the recruitment parameters are probably not as simply as,‘I have this and that’.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 13:35
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Yes, the question inevitably asked will be " how come, after 8000 hours of purely airline flying, have you now deigned to apply for private ops"?

EMS, a personal opinion, but one formed over 15 years of private and 20 years of airline flying, so it has some foundation. It does get my hackles up when I see posts from airline pilots who feel superior by default, and how dare they not get an interview. Not here necessarily, but it is common.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 14:03
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Originally Posted by Joe le Taxi
Yes, the question inevitably asked will be " how come, after 8000 hours of purely airline flying, have you now deigned to apply for private ops"?

EMS, a personal opinion, but one formed over 15 years of private and 20 years of airline flying, so it has some foundation. It does get my hackles up when I see posts from airline pilots who feel superior by default, and how dare they not get an interview. Not here necessarily, but it is common.

I find this anger and resentment towards your fellow airlines colleagues unbelievable!
Not to mention your opinion about CRM and SOP´s...
If some of us posted and share our airlines hours experience, it was in the sense that we were hoping this could be an advantage, not because we think we are better than you just because we fly bigger airplanes!
And if one day, you have to deal with an Abn/Emerg situation in flight, please be cool, apply CRM and SOP´s, because catering servicing experience, mastering last minute changes on the FPlan and smiles to your costumer wont be enough!
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 14:28
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Amply demonstrated my point boom.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 18:38
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Well I'm not going to join the discussion itself but do have to share my two cents since tomorrow is the last day to receive something (ANYTHING) from them and I haven't heard anything so far.

Let's not speculate about the GA versus Airline since a SELECTION should take place to see if a/any candidate is a match for the position according to their specific qualities that they seek for in a candidate. IF they really would have preferred GA pilots over airline pilots by default like some are trying to make it sound like here, then they could have easily put that in their advertisement for the job as a hard criteria. However, as a pure airline experienced pilot I was able to apply without not matching a single criteria listed on their website so that is not the case: obviously I belong to their target group. Now, in this case I expect myself to be fully eligible for the job for at least the first round so I should be further assessed as an individual (or rejected because they have found better candidates). In the meantime I would like to be treated with respect and receive any sign of appreciation instead of holding me in the dark. I will probably be one of the persons receiving one of the mass emails that will probably be sent tomorrow with "thank your for interest but unfortunately...." which is not even a big deal but the hold-off until the very last moment possible is.

Wish better times for all you guys. Take care.
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