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Old 5th Jan 2020, 18:11
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Flying a private 'N' registered with an EASA license

Hello guys!

Due to my current non-flying job in an FBO I’ve been offered a FO position in a Falcon 2000 which is currently based in Spain. I own an EASA Spanish CAA CPL(A) and fATPL. The problem is that this bird is currently registered in the United States (N) and I’m not sure if I would be able to fly it with my license. The owner is considering in moving its registration to the Isle of Man or getting a random VP- (from Bermuda I guess) but this is not 100% confirmed. The captain has an FAA ATP.

The aircraft is only involved in private operations ’flying the boss’ mainly in Europe
Many thanks!
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You'll need a type rating so you may as well get your FAA conversion at the same time, either CPL or ATP depending on your hours.
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Hola,

As far as I know, you will need an FAA license and Type in order to fly any N registered airplane, either private or commercial.
Isle of Man or Bermuda will accept both licenses for conversion.

Good luck.
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If you reside in Euroupe you will need to have a valid FAA and EASA licence to fly N-reg, and of course the type rating.
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Many thanks to all of you guys for your replies. I’ll wait for the owner to change the tail reg to Bermuda or IOM, and see what happens next.
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Instead of guessing READ the REGULATIONS !
Paragraph (vii)


61.3 Requirement for certificates, ratings, and authorizations.(a) Required pilot certificate for operating a civil aircraft of the United States. No person may serve as a required pilot flight crewmember of a civil aircraft of the United States, unless that person:

(1) Has in the person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization -

(i) A pilot certificate issued under this part and in accordance with § 61.19;

(ii) A special purpose pilot authorization issued under § 61.77;

(iii) A temporary certificate issued under § 61.17;

(iv) A document conveying temporary authority to exercise certificate privileges issued by the Airmen Certification Branch under § 61.29(e);

(v) When engaged in a flight operation within the United States for a part 119 certificate holder authorized to conduct operations under part 121 or 135 of this chapter, a temporary document provided by that certificate holder under an approved certificate verification plan;

(vi) When engaged in a flight operation within the United States for a fractional ownership program manager authorized to conduct operations under part 91, subpart K, of this chapter, a temporary document provided by that program manager under an approved certificate verification plan; or

(vii) When operating an aircraft within a foreign country, a pilot license issued by that country may be used.
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N-reg Falcon 2000 based in Spain.
If you reside in Europe a valid FAA and EASA licence is required.
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 13:45
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The OP already has an EASA licence. The 'based in' part is thus covered.

Then, what Office Update said ...
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This, ("If you reside in Euroupe you will need to have a valid FAA and EASA licence to fly N-reg, and of course the type rating"), is incorrect. IF the aircraft is OPERATED, within the EU, then you need both tickets (and don't you DARE, think that an FAA ticket holder can fly a plane as well as an EASA jockey!!).....

YEEHAH FOR BREXIT......So long SUCKAS!!! I'm gonna Operate me a G "Fye Fiddy", on the N reg, outta London!
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YEEHAH FOR BREXIT......So long SUCKAS!!! I'm gonna Operate me a G "Fye Fiddy", on the N reg, outta London!
Nope.. CAA will want to stay in EASA... Big difference: you will have to pay more for being part of EASA and less say in what comes out of EASA...

So long SUCKAS!!! You will have to pay us to listen to us LOL
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Nope.. CAA will want to stay in EASA... Big difference: you will have to pay more for being part of EASA and less say in what comes out of EASA...

So long SUCKAS!!! You will have to pay us to listen to us LOL

LMAO!!!! I won't be saying 'nuttink" to CAA, any more than I will EASA (who put the Arse...in EASA anyway??)!!

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Originally Posted by Aso
Nope.. CAA will want to stay in EASA... Big difference: you will have to pay more for being part of EASA and less say in what comes out of EASA...

So long SUCKAS!!! You will have to pay us to listen to us LOL

LMAO!!!! I won't be saying 'nuttink" to CAA, any more than I will EASA (who put the Arse...in EASA anyway??)!! If the OPERATOR is outside of the EU (nothing to do with a country being an EASA State or not), then you dont need 2 flying tickets....2 medicals....or anything else. You need just whatever is appropriate for your aircraft registry. The UK is not in the EU :-p


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Originally Posted by Triple Nickel 8 Ball
The UK is not in the EU :-p
Maybe the Yanks did do something half-way, semi-correct by kicking them out back in 17-hundred-whatever. Sorry, but I am on a bit of a Brit-bashing roll this evening.
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